Do you not like it when a mechanic doesn't do a good job on your car? Or when a cook makes your food wrong? If marijuana was legal, we would get actual professional sellers of the product and then I wouldn't have to deal with such incompetence.
This Thread Contains An Exhaustive List Of Valid Reasons to Continue The War On Drugs
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And this is WHY I want it to be legal! So I DON'T have to deal with such unprofessional morons. Oh so mister high and mighty man.
Is the War on Drugs, including US support for law enforcement and paramilitary operations against drug cartels in Latin America, intrinsically linked to the question of Drug Legalisation (in whatever extent) in the United States, or can the two be considered as separate issues for the purposes of this thread?
That's a good question. Really the only reason we DON'T legalize weed is so the illegal drug cartels can still have power and give some scratch to Majestic 12. ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
Just kidding(not really) but I feel if weed was legal it would severely depower the illegal drug trade, similar to how relegalizing alcohol gave less power to the mafia.
Not really. They'd just switch to harder stuff and it wouldn't do anything to change the fact that most countries will still have it outlawed. Your NEVER going to see it become legal in a place like Japan.
Just looked up what you meant, they are fucking hardcore over there when it comes to drugs! 16 months, and 35 days solitary for posession alone?! Sweet cupping cakes Japan!
While it probably won't be legalized there, they should at least lessen their punishments for drug related crimes.
Does it work? Are the rates lower, or is it just harsher for no appreciable reason? I'm not saying I support it, but it'd be interesting to see any stats on it.
From this site here, it states that only 2.9 percent of the population as of 2010 have used drugs. It was a real problem in the 80s, but now its calmed down and yet the harsh laws are still there.
Interesting article on this topic actually, with an election slant.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/11/legalising-marijuana?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/viewfromMexico
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/11/legalising-marijuana?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/viewfromMexico
It's mostly still enforced by familial and societal expectations. In Japan, you don't do drugs because it's fucking embarrassing for your friends, family, and colleagues to explain your actions and they will just cut you off rather than stand up for you. It would literally affect their careers. Really, in a lot of ways, Japanese society is run kinda like a cult.
But yeah, Jail time is generally pretty harsh in Japan because they have such low rates of serious crime. They expect you to go, do your time, and come out a functioning member of society in a way that we don't here in the US.
An interesting read. It seems to me that the author is examining a system where the drugs are legally produced inside a US state where the drug is legalised, and then illegally smuggled across state borders to those states where it is not.
I see a couple of problems with this. The entire scheme rests on criminal enterprise to set up a distribution network inside the US. Which is, you know, criminal. And likely handled by organised crime. I assume (could be wrong here) that the production of drugs in the states mentioned in the article would be heavily regulated, with any evidence of collusion with smugglind rings, the mafia, or other such illegal organisations resulting in an investigation with the producers prosecuted and their operations shut down. So even if the production is legal, how would you get the producers together with the national distributors (who are operating illegally) while avoiding a law enforcement crackdown?
And then there would be the pressure levied against state lawmakers by their neighbouring states, the DEA, FBI, and other organisations that have a problem with drug smuggling and it's enablers.
I only have the above article to go on, but the entire idea seems difficult to make work the way the author suggests, assuming I understood his point correctly.
What I hate how there are medical marijuana growers who are for the continued illegalization of marijuana for recreational use. Its like how Boot-leggers during prohibition times were all for prohibition since it would keep their hooch sales up. Not knocking medical marijuana completely though, there are people who truly need it but there are also a lot of people who exploit it just to get high. I'd rather risk getting arrested than take medicine that could actually be for better use.
It is like the bumper sticker that was on a bootleggers car.
"Think of my children, Keep this county dry."
"Think of my children, Keep this county dry."
Plus brothers won't be doin' time for toking up something that has litterally been toked for TWO THOUSAND YEARS! THOUSANDS OF YEARS!
Come now, that's a pretty big logical fallacy. People have been stabbing each other for thousands of years too, you know.
All right then let me rephrase. People won't be doing time for doing something GENERALLY HARMLESS for thousands of years. I say generally, because there are people who some how get addicted even though its one of the least addictive substances.
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