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Titanfall (beta)

#1

Necronic

Necronic

Anyone else in the Titanfall beta? It's a pretty good game. A little thin at the moment, but given time this game will be the shit.


#2

redthirtyone

redthirtyone

Just got my code today & finished the tutorial. Won't get a chance to play some until after the basketball game, but looks pretty interesting so far.


#3

GasBandit

GasBandit

My curiosity was piqued, until I saw I'd have to install Origin.



#4

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh



My favorite Youtuber does a great gameplay review for those interested in seeing some ingame footage.


#5

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Another preview from Angry Joe:


GasBandit said:
My curiosity was piqued, until I saw I'd have to install Origin.
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Same main reason why I didn't want to sign up for the beta.


#6

redthirtyone

redthirtyone

Your losses I guess. I've been on the fence about this game for a while so this will give me a decent chance to test drive before deciding if I wanna drop 60 bucks.

In other news, they decided tonight to stress the server load, so now beta access is open to all - at least for XBone.


#7

Necronic

Necronic

Origin is here to stay, and it's not that bad anymore. Granted, you only get one chance to make a first impression, but writin Origin off for life means you will miss a lot of gems.


#8

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Necronic said:
Origin is here to stay, and it's not that bad anymore. Granted, you only get one chance to make a first impression, but writin Origin off for life means you will miss a lot of gems.
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Yeah, but only EA games.


#9

Frank

Frank

Yeah, I just ain't gonna play it. I'm not into multiplayer shooters enough to bother with anything EA's involved in, no matter how it turns out. The servers will be a fucking mess at launch, no doubt.


#10

Necronic

Necronic

You guys need to learn the difference between a publisher and a developer.


#11

GasBandit

GasBandit

Necronic said:
You guys need to learn the difference between a publisher and a developer.
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Which is the one that puts money in EA's pocket? Oh that's right, both. No sale.


#12

bhamv3

bhamv3

I won't go to a restaurant where the maitre d' is snooty and treats me like he thinks I'm going to steal their silverware, no matter how good the food is. This is not necessarily failing to distinguish between the maitre d' and the chef, I recognize that the chef does great work and has no control over how the maitre d' acts. But unfortunately, going to the restaurant gets me the whole package, chef plus maitre d', so I choose to eat elsewhere.

Also, the maitre d' keeps trying to charge me extra for steak sauce on my steak.


#13

figmentPez

figmentPez

bhamv3 said:
Also, the maitre d' keeps trying to charge me extra for steak sauce on my steak.
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Maybe, if you stopped getting your steak well-done, you wouldn't need steak sauce anymore....


#14

Necronic

Necronic

yeah that analogy makes sense up until you have a maitre d' and steak sauce together.....


#15

GasBandit

GasBandit

A better analogy - like I won't eat at a restaurant whose ownership is financing NAMBLA, no matter how good the chef is.


#16

Necronic

Necronic

Ah the NAMBLA Godwin.

I can't really fault you guys for your principles. That said, as an unprincipled traitor I enjoyed the hell out of BF4 and I will enjoy the hell out of Titanfall.


#17

GasBandit

GasBandit

Necronic said:
Ah the NAMBLA Godwin.
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I tried to come up with some metaphor for buying and ruining other restaurants/chefs, but it's late.


#18

redthirtyone

redthirtyone

Meh, one thing I've learned is that Halforums can hold a grudge.

As for the game itself, I'm still torn. It seems to play like a Halo / CoD mix with the Titan element thrown in. You get customizable loadouts for both pilots & Titans, but there doesn't seem to be much variety - I'm hoping that this is just because of the beta aspect giving a slightly stripped down version. Example - I only see 5 main pilot weapons to choose from, 3 of which are standardly available from the get-go. Unlock an SMG at lvl 6 & a sniper rifle at 9. Also only available are Atlas class titans, of which I'm pretty sue there are at least a couple more that have been teased in trailers.

Limited game mode availablity - I've played mostly Attrition (team deathmatch), and a couple of games of Hardpoint (Domination). Standard FPS PvP with a few bots thrown in. Looks like you get a titan availble to use 2 minutes after your first kill, & subsequent kills take time off that countdown. As usual I suck, & my average length of time spent in a titan before it gets destroyed is less than 30 seconds. Also, some weird thing where upon completion of the match objective (first team to 250 points, etc) there is about a 45 second epilogue where the losing teams tries to run to an evac point before being killed. Not sure what that's all about.

So still undecided on it. Will depend on how much more customization is available in the full game I guess.


#19

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

redthirtyone said:
Meh, one thing I've learned is that Halforums can hold a grudge.
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Why not? If someone does you wrong and never apologizes or fixes the mistake, why forgive and give another chance?


#20

Bowielee

Bowielee

Gilgamesh said:
Why not? If someone does you wrong and never apologizes or fixes the mistake, why forgive and give another chance?
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So, do you stop watching every movie made by Universal Pictures? Because they've made some shitty ass movies and never gave me my money back.


#21

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Bowielee said:
So, do you stop watching every movie made by Universal Pictures? Because they've made some shitty ass movies and never gave me my money back.
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I don't pay to watch shitty movies.


#22

Bowielee

Bowielee

Gilgamesh said:
I don't pay to watch shitty movies.
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You don't have to pay to play shitty games, either.[DOUBLEPOST=1392620191,1392620090][/DOUBLEPOST]The point being, just like EVERY other entertainment based company, their goal is to make money. What matters is whether the product is good or not.


#23

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Bowielee said:
You don't have to pay to play shitty games, either.
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I'm not. That's my point. What's yours?

The point being, just like EVERY other entertainment based company, their goal is to make money. What matters is whether the product is good or not.
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Who's arguing this?


#24

bhamv3

bhamv3

Bowielee said:
So, do you stop watching every movie made by Universal Pictures? Because they've made some shitty ass movies and never gave me my money back.
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I don't think that's a very good analogy. The problem with EA isn't that they release bad games, it's that they are a greedy, money-grubbing, don't-care-about-consumers company.

Imagine a film company that would buy up the rights to your favorite film franchises, then release films that are obvious cash grabs. Bond films with Justin Bieber as Bond. A sequel to the Godfather where the Corleone family move to California and have wet t-shirt contests for the rest of the movie. Avengers 3 is split up into three films, and if you want to watch the ending to the second film, you need to pay extra.

Now, the Avengers 3 trilogy may very well be the awesomest films ever. Lots of people may be very happy to pay an extra nine ninety-five to watch the complete ending to the second film. But such a business practice would still leave bad tastes in mouths everywhere.[DOUBLEPOST=1392620692,1392620636][/DOUBLEPOST]
Bowielee said:
You don't have to pay to play shitty games, either.[DOUBLEPOST=1392620191,1392620090][/DOUBLEPOST]The point being, just like EVERY other entertainment based company, their goal is to make money. What matters is whether the product is good or not.
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There are varying shades of gray to this though. Is it possible to make a good product while building goodwill among your customers?


#25

Bowielee

Bowielee

bhamv3 said:
I don't think that's a very good analogy. The problem with EA isn't that they release bad games, it's that they are a greedy, money-grubbing, don't-care-about-consumers company.

Imagine a film company that would buy up the rights to your favorite film franchises, then release films that are obvious cash grabs. Bond films with Justin Bieber as Bond. A sequel to the Godfather where the Corleone family move to California and have wet t-shirt contests for the rest of the movie. Avengers 3 is split up into three films, and if you want to watch the ending to the second film, you need to pay extra.

Now, the Avengers 3 trilogy may very well be the awesomest films ever. Lots of people may be very happy to pay an extra nine ninety-five to watch the complete ending to the second film. But such a business practice would still leave bad tastes in mouths everywhere.[DOUBLEPOST=1392620692,1392620636][/DOUBLEPOST]

There are varying shades of gray to this though. Is it possible to make a good product while building goodwill among your customers?
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Have you watched the Fantastic Four movies? What you're describing already happens. Hollywood botches beloved franchises all the time. Your Avengers 3 analogy can also be applied to the Hobbit movies.[DOUBLEPOST=1392620935][/DOUBLEPOST]Again, my point is, blindly saying that everything put out by one company is going to automatically suck is kind of myopic. Quite frankly, if people were as outraged about all this as it is claimed, EA would have gone out of business years ago.


#26

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Bowielee said:
Quite frankly, if people were as outraged about all this as it is claimed, EA would have gone out of business years ago.
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Quite frankly the general media consuming public is a bunch of mindless slop eating idiots.
It's why reality tv exists, movies like Transformers get 4 films, and EA stays in business.

Once a company has put out enough bad garbage, refuses to change their line of thinking, they permanently lose my business. Unless there is massive restructure or some kind of acknowledgement of mistakes (which won't happen because of the general media public) then I stick by my feelings on the subject. It's why I didn't watch any other Marvel related movies after X-2 that were produced by Fox or any Transformer movie after the first. I also will not buy a single EA product.


#27

bhamv3

bhamv3

Bowielee said:
Have you watched the Fantastic Four movies? What you're describing already happens. Hollywood botches beloved franchises all the time. Your Avengers 3 analogy can also be applied to the Hobbit movies.[DOUBLEPOST=1392620935][/DOUBLEPOST]Again, my point is, blindly saying that everything put out by one company is going to automatically suck is kind of myopic. Quite frankly, if people were as outraged about all this as it is claimed, EA would have gone out of business years ago.
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Well, yes, Hollywood does it already. And people called the Fantastic Four movies shit, which they are. That doesn't refute my point at all, namely that EA are profit-oriented at the expense of gamer goodwill. Just because some Hollywood studios do it too doesn't make it okay for EA to do it.

And again, I'm not saying everything put out by EA will automatically suck. There are some damn good games on Origin, though admittedly many of them are at least somewhat tainted by EA's questionable practices (Sim City, Mass Effect 3, etc). I'm saying that I dislike what EA is doing, and I'm voting with my wallet.

EDIT: The pics and videos of Titanfall do look incredibly awesome though.


#28

GasBandit

GasBandit

EA is by far the most damaging influence on the video game industry, and I'm actually rather surprised how many people have forgotten/forgiven. They kill good developers. They meddle in development (moreso than most publishers). They're the kings of day-one DLC. You people remember Mass Effect 3, right? Dragon Age 2? SimCity? DUNGEON KEEPER MOBILE? I could go on, and I think I did at one point in another thread. Other companies do bad things too (Activision springs to mine), but nobody does as much as bad as EA.



#29

Bubble181

Bubble181

Yeah. I don't say all games EA puts out are bad (though their franchises tend to start off strong and spiral horribly downward as more and more importance is placed being profitable and wringing every last drop of money out of players - SimCity, C&C 4 and 5, Mass Effect 3, Dungeon Keeper Pay Edition, ...). I will say that Origins was so atrocious, and their business model so absolutely horrifying to me, that I won't buy anything they put out until I see a necessity to. I loved Sims 1 & 2, and boguht 3 - but I didn't buy any expansions for 3, and I stopped playing fairly soon after getting it. I loved the C&C brand, but didn't pick up RA3 and C&C4 until they were under $5 -) and frankly, I regret the purchase of the latter, and I'm glad I didn't get the former for a higher price.
There are plenty of good, high-quality games out there (many of which I own), that I haven't played yet. I don't see a reason to throw my money at a company I disagree with on a basic philosophical level. I'm sure Titanfall will be a good game. I'm also sure my life will be none the worse for not having played it.


#30

Necronic

Necronic

I wonder how many people here spent money on Enders Game? Yet again though I don't reall disagree with the principles, I just personally don't care. Frankly I think gamers do more harm to the industry than the industry itself ever could.

Also with respect to the variety of weapons in the game I think you will see a lot more on release. My only beef right now is that I think the NPCs should be more dangerous.


#31

GasBandit

GasBandit

Necronic said:
I wonder how many people here spent money on Enders Game? Yet again though I don't reall disagree with the principles, I just personally don't care. Frankly I think gamers do more harm to the industry than the industry itself ever could.
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Lionsgate is no EA. You're comparing an ok movie put out by an ok-but-otherwise-unremarkable publisher/distributor, to a publisher with a long, storied, well-documented history of constant and unrepentant malevolence upon an industry.

Anyway, Titanfall. Looking at the footage... now seeing it played, my interest wanes. Not my thing, but I know that other people may/will probably like it.


#32

Necronic

Necronic

You missed the point on Enders game, I was talking about Orson Scott Card. A lot of his stuff has been boycotted due to his political contributions, and money you spend on watching Enders Game goes to his pockets which then goes to some potentially unsavory political organizations.

But yeah, Titanfall won't be for everyone. It's definitely a young man's game so I can see why you might pass :). I probably won't buy it myself for a while since it overlaps with BF4 and Hawken.


#33

GasBandit

GasBandit

Necronic said:
You missed the point on Enders game, I was talking about Orson Scott Card. A lot of his stuff has been boycotted due to his political contributions, and money you spend on watching Enders Game goes to his pockets which then goes to some potentially unsavory political organizations.
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Except EA been a lot more successful at ruining video games than OSC's been at hatin' on the gays. Hell, comparing them directly makes him look practically impotent and harmless.[DOUBLEPOST=1392662840,1392662778][/DOUBLEPOST]
Necronic said:
It's definitely a young man's game so I can see why you might pass :).
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Translation: mindless twitchspazzing ftw.

Also, CTRL-ALT-DEL actually raised a good point today, IMO -



#34

CrimsonSoul

CrimsonSoul

Penny arcade seems to love the game and I tend to trust them


#35

Necronic

Necronic

Gilgamesh man, you need to grow up.


#36

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Necronic said:
Gilgamesh man, you need to grow up.
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Growing up = giving bad companies money over and over?
I'll pass.


#37

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

Necronic said:
You missed the point on Enders game, I was talking about Orson Scott Card. A lot of his stuff has been boycotted due to his political contributions, and money you spend on watching Enders Game goes to his pockets which then goes to some potentially unsavory political organizations.
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Card doesn't make any money on the movie. He sold the movie option like 10 years ago, and there was no back-end profit attached to the deal. He's not seeing any money from ticket sales.


#38

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Gilgamesh said:
Growing up = giving bad companies money over and over?
I'll pass.
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He might mean the passive aggressive funny-tags.


#39

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Ravenpoe said:
He might mean the passive aggressive funny-tags.
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Well I used to use disagree and people would whine and complain then too. So it doesn't really matter what tag I use at this point.


#40

Jay

Jay

Requires origin? Thanks but no.


#41

Necronic

Necronic

Tinwhistler said:
Card doesn't make any money on the movie. He sold the movie option like 10 years ago, and there was no back-end profit attached to the deal. He's not seeing any money from ticket sales.
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I didn't know that, thanks for the info. It doesn't entirely change the argument, because there is a larger picture. If the movie was boycotted heavily for its OSC's involvement in it then it might make the next studio think twice in investing in the next OSC type character. Not really the same thing, but it still has an effect.


#42

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

Necronic said:
I didn't know that, thanks for the info. It doesn't entirely change the argument, because there is a larger picture. If the movie was boycotted heavily for its OSC's involvement in it then it might make the next studio think twice in investing in the next OSC type character. Not really the same thing, but it still has an effect.
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(shrug) I could boycott stuff because the celebrities involved hold views I find distasteful...
  • Ender's Game, because Card is a huge bigot.
  • The 175 movies and tv shows that Kirstie Alley, John Travolta, and Tom Cruise have been in, because they are huge Scientology supporters, and Scientology is pretty bad (and homophobic). Not to mention the hundreds of other movies that have scientologist actors. Or listen to the music of the Grateful Dead, Beck or other bands with scientology musicians.
  • Or maybe not see the movies or listen to the music or support of any number of a score of racist celebrities.
  • Or not support other guys who have made homophobic rants.
  • And so on.

And, in fact, I used to do just that. But, you know, I've come to the conclusion that my enjoyment of Pulp Fiction, John Wayne movies, Cheers, and jazz does very little to keep the gay/black/whatever man down. So what if Tom Cruise is a spaz who may or may not believe in a galactic overlord that lived 75 million years ago?

I enjoyed the heck out of Ender's Game, the book. And I thought the movie was pretty decent. I doubt that I've somehow set gay rights back by enjoying them both. And I'm pretty sure neither made me hate 'teh gays'.

You will never escape fucktard opinions.

Now, to bring this back to the original topic: I currently have no interest in installing Origin. I used to feel the same way about Steam years ago. That may change some day, but Titanfall won't be the game that does it for me.


#43

PatrThom

PatrThom

CrimsonSoul said:
Penny arcade seems to love the game and I tend to trust them
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Sounds like they do, all right.

--Patrick


#44

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

PatrThom said:
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Sounds like they do, all right.

--Patrick
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Noone's really saying the game is bad actually.


#45

PatrThom

PatrThom

Gilgamesh said:
Noone's really saying the game is bad actually.
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I have no opinion since I couldn't play it even if I did have a beta key.

--Patrick


#46

Jay

Jay

Aren't the makers of this game that company that made DLC MAP PACKS in their previous games that eventually segregate the gaming community from those who paid for the maps and those who don't have them?


#47

Necronic

Necronic

Never heard of that, but it's easy enough to wiki it. It looks like this is their first title, but the studio is from two guys who were high up in the food chain at Infinity Ward who were fired, and it looks like a large chunk of the employees at Respawn are people that resigned after these two guys were fired. They seemed to have been involved in COD MW1 and maybe 2, but not in it after that. It's actually pretty interesting to read:

Dismissal of senior employees[edit]

On March 1, 2010, Activision amended its report with the Securities and Exchange Commission to add notification that two senior employees of Infinity Ward were being fired due to "breaches of contract and insubordination". This coincided with Jason West (Infinity Ward president, game director, co-CCO, and CTO) and Vince Zampella (CEO and co-founder of Infinity Ward) editing their profiles on the website LinkedIn to list Infinity Ward as a former employer as of March 2010. Reportedly, a meeting between Zampella, West, and Activision staff occurred on March 1, after which neither Zampella nor West were seen; this was followed by the arrival of security guards at the studio.[39][40] It was later confirmed by Activision that West and Zampella had been dismissed, and had been replaced on an interim basis by Activision CTO Steve Pearce and head of production Steve Ackrich.[41]
Activision CEO Bobby Kotick addressed Infinity Ward studio heads on March 2, 2010 about Zampella and West's dismissal. A second meeting was held with all of Infinity Ward's employees on hand. The outcomes of those meetings are currently unknown,[42] but Activision has explained that Infinity Ward is still "central" to the future of the Call of Duty franchise. Activision has used a new studio, Sledgehammer Games, to create an "action-adventure" installment of the Call of Duty franchise. However, Activision halted the production of the action-adventure game which was reportedly 2–3 months into production and requested Sledgehammer Games to work side-by-side with Infinity Ward to make Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 instead.[43]
Further departures[edit]

Following West and Zampella's firings, nearly half of the remaining Infinity Ward employees resigned. Throughout April and May 2010, 46 employees, among them lead designers and programmers who worked on Modern Warfare 2, abruptly left Infinity Ward. All of them have so far declined to comment on their reasons for leaving.[44]
Infinity Ward "Fully" Reconstructed[edit]

Vivendi chairman and CEO Jean-Bernard Lévy stated that Infinity Ward "got over" their problems and are fully reconstructed and that Activision is very happy with the result. The executive went on to say that there will be three studios working on the Call of Duty franchise including the newly formed studio Sledgehammer Games.[45][46]
Lawsuits[edit]

West and Zampella v. Activision[edit]

Following the initial news of West and Zampella's departure, it was reported that Infinity Ward has not received royalties from the sales of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, and that the developer may have breached their contract with Activision by holding meetings with other video game publishers including Electronic Arts.[42][47] This was revealed to be the reason behind the firings when West and Zampella filed a lawsuit against Activision on March 4, 2010 over "substantial royalty payments" that Activision failed to pay them in the weeks leading up to their firing. According to their attorney Robert Schwartz, Activision had hired lawyers to investigate West and Zampella on charges of insubordination and breaches of contract in February, which culminated in their dismissal. West and Zampella's lawsuit was filed to force Activision to compensate West and Zampella for the unpaid royalties, and to secure contractual rights over the Modern Warfare branch of the Call of Duty franchise, among other things.[48] If their lawsuit is successful, West and Zampella could retain the power to halt the development and release of any future games and downloadable content in the Modern Warfare setting.[47]
On April 9, 2010 a countersuit was filed by Activision stating their actions in firing Zampella and West were justified, calling the two "self-serving schemers".[49] Zampella and West's attorney responded to the countersuit the same day saying the publisher's claims are "false and outrageous".[50] The trial date for this case was revealed on July 9, 2010 to be scheduled for May 23, 2011 but was rescheduled for December 14, 2011.[51] It was then rescheduled again for March 29, 2012, and further rescheduled for June 1st.[52] On March 31, 2012, The two parties agreed to a confidential settlement.[53] The countersuit mentioned that Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 is in development, and it is scheduled for release on November 8, 2011.[54]
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#48

Frank

Frank

Zampella and West seem like they're locked in some sort of insane loop. Make successful franchise, become dissatisfied with publisher, go to competing publisher, rinse, repeat.


#49

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Necronic said:
They seemed to have been involved in COD MW1 and maybe 2, but not in it after that.
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Not just MW1/2, but all the main series games before that, too. They're the ones who built the version of Infinity Ward that actually made good CoD games.


#50

Necronic

Necronic

so, some seriously respectable developers.

I think the most interesting thing they have brought to this game are the NPCs. Its really interesting trying to pick out the players from the NPCs before they kill you. That said the NPCs need to be more difficult/powerful. I think I've been killed by NPCs once ever.


#51

GasBandit

GasBandit

Necronic said:
so, some seriously respectable developers.

I think the most interesting thing they have brought to this game are the NPCs. Its really interesting trying to pick out the players from the NPCs before they kill you. That said the NPCs need to be more difficult/powerful. I think I've been killed by NPCs once ever.
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Sounds like Battlefield 1942, which also had bots. The bots were idiots, but they camoflaged the players, and you could have fun with 2 or 3 players against 20 bots.


#52

Necronic

Necronic

It's out. Feel free to hang onto your outdated views on origin if you will, but if you're willing to take a risk the game is fucking great.


#53

Far

Far

Only ended up playing two games last night but it seems promising so far.


#54

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Obama plays Titanfall:

Holy hell, it's phenomenal.


#55

Necronic

Necronic

is.....that actually him? I normally would just assume this is a fake, but he did that between two ferns thing.

ed: ok nevermind that's not him...still, neat


#56

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Necronic said:
is.....that actually him? I normally would just assume this is a fake, but he did that between two ferns thing.

ed: ok nevermind that's not him...still, neat
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Yeah it's pretty dead/spot on huh?


#57

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Fuck... I think I'm buying Titanfall:

http://i.imgur.com/VeE50z5.jpg[/spoiler]

Yeah, I'm in afterall.


#58

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Bought it. Love it. Having a blast. Never played a FPS PVP game other than TF2 before and this is a blast. Quick short rounds, level up system, just fun. Feel the effects of being new, getting owned by higher level player loadouts, but still fun.


#59

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Gilgamesh said:
Feel the effects of being new, getting owned by higher level player loadouts, but still fun.
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That will go away pretty soon once you start picking up weapon attachments and then it will just come down to familiarity and skill and style. There aren't really any super-broken weapons (human or Titan) or attachments that can't be negated or matched by a different weapon in a different circumstance (with the possible exception of the satchel charge).

Heck, I use the starter assault rifle and an ACOG scope, and that's one of the earliest weapon/attachment combos that get unlocked.

The 40mm cannon with rapid-fire was kind of the only truly broken one, and that got nerfed.


#60

Bowielee

Bowielee

So, Gilgamesh, what was the RPG that you recently loved to pieces?

Y'know, the one that is an EA game? ;)


#61

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Bowielee said:
So, Gilgamesh, what was the RPG that you recently loved to pieces?

Y'know, the one that is an EA game? ;)
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Honestly I'm not sure what game you're talking about? :confused:


#62

Bowielee

Bowielee

Kingdoms of Amalur


#63

Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Bowielee said:
Kingdoms of Amalur
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Oh yeah, freaking loved that.


#64

Frank

Frank

Bowielee said:
So, Gilgamesh, what was the RPG that you recently loved to pieces?

Y'know, the one that is an EA game? ;)
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On the positive side, I don't think EA gets much from sales of it off of Origin (I think the state of Rhode Island gets the lion's share) and you can buy it off of Origin.


#65

Bowielee

Bowielee

I think I'm probably less annoyed by Origin than I am by Uplay.

Which, BTW was the only account I have that was apparently affected by the Heartbleed virus.


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