Titanfall (beta)

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

Necronic said:
You missed the point on Enders game, I was talking about Orson Scott Card. A lot of his stuff has been boycotted due to his political contributions, and money you spend on watching Enders Game goes to his pockets which then goes to some potentially unsavory political organizations.
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Card doesn't make any money on the movie. He sold the movie option like 10 years ago, and there was no back-end profit attached to the deal. He's not seeing any money from ticket sales.
 
Necronic

Necronic

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Tinwhistler said:
Card doesn't make any money on the movie. He sold the movie option like 10 years ago, and there was no back-end profit attached to the deal. He's not seeing any money from ticket sales.
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I didn't know that, thanks for the info. It doesn't entirely change the argument, because there is a larger picture. If the movie was boycotted heavily for its OSC's involvement in it then it might make the next studio think twice in investing in the next OSC type character. Not really the same thing, but it still has an effect.
 
Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

Necronic said:
I didn't know that, thanks for the info. It doesn't entirely change the argument, because there is a larger picture. If the movie was boycotted heavily for its OSC's involvement in it then it might make the next studio think twice in investing in the next OSC type character. Not really the same thing, but it still has an effect.
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(shrug) I could boycott stuff because the celebrities involved hold views I find distasteful...
  • Ender's Game, because Card is a huge bigot.
  • The 175 movies and tv shows that Kirstie Alley, John Travolta, and Tom Cruise have been in, because they are huge Scientology supporters, and Scientology is pretty bad (and homophobic). Not to mention the hundreds of other movies that have scientologist actors. Or listen to the music of the Grateful Dead, Beck or other bands with scientology musicians.
  • Or maybe not see the movies or listen to the music or support of any number of a score of racist celebrities.
  • Or not support other guys who have made homophobic rants.
  • And so on.

And, in fact, I used to do just that. But, you know, I've come to the conclusion that my enjoyment of Pulp Fiction, John Wayne movies, Cheers, and jazz does very little to keep the gay/black/whatever man down. So what if Tom Cruise is a spaz who may or may not believe in a galactic overlord that lived 75 million years ago?

I enjoyed the heck out of Ender's Game, the book. And I thought the movie was pretty decent. I doubt that I've somehow set gay rights back by enjoying them both. And I'm pretty sure neither made me hate 'teh gays'.

You will never escape fucktard opinions.

Now, to bring this back to the original topic: I currently have no interest in installing Origin. I used to feel the same way about Steam years ago. That may change some day, but Titanfall won't be the game that does it for me.
 
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Jay

Jay

Aren't the makers of this game that company that made DLC MAP PACKS in their previous games that eventually segregate the gaming community from those who paid for the maps and those who don't have them?
 
Necronic

Necronic

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Never heard of that, but it's easy enough to wiki it. It looks like this is their first title, but the studio is from two guys who were high up in the food chain at Infinity Ward who were fired, and it looks like a large chunk of the employees at Respawn are people that resigned after these two guys were fired. They seemed to have been involved in COD MW1 and maybe 2, but not in it after that. It's actually pretty interesting to read:

Dismissal of senior employees[edit]

On March 1, 2010, Activision amended its report with the Securities and Exchange Commission to add notification that two senior employees of Infinity Ward were being fired due to "breaches of contract and insubordination". This coincided with Jason West (Infinity Ward president, game director, co-CCO, and CTO) and Vince Zampella (CEO and co-founder of Infinity Ward) editing their profiles on the website LinkedIn to list Infinity Ward as a former employer as of March 2010. Reportedly, a meeting between Zampella, West, and Activision staff occurred on March 1, after which neither Zampella nor West were seen; this was followed by the arrival of security guards at the studio.[39][40] It was later confirmed by Activision that West and Zampella had been dismissed, and had been replaced on an interim basis by Activision CTO Steve Pearce and head of production Steve Ackrich.[41]
Activision CEO Bobby Kotick addressed Infinity Ward studio heads on March 2, 2010 about Zampella and West's dismissal. A second meeting was held with all of Infinity Ward's employees on hand. The outcomes of those meetings are currently unknown,[42] but Activision has explained that Infinity Ward is still "central" to the future of the Call of Duty franchise. Activision has used a new studio, Sledgehammer Games, to create an "action-adventure" installment of the Call of Duty franchise. However, Activision halted the production of the action-adventure game which was reportedly 2–3 months into production and requested Sledgehammer Games to work side-by-side with Infinity Ward to make Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 instead.[43]
Further departures[edit]

Following West and Zampella's firings, nearly half of the remaining Infinity Ward employees resigned. Throughout April and May 2010, 46 employees, among them lead designers and programmers who worked on Modern Warfare 2, abruptly left Infinity Ward. All of them have so far declined to comment on their reasons for leaving.[44]
Infinity Ward "Fully" Reconstructed[edit]

Vivendi chairman and CEO Jean-Bernard Lévy stated that Infinity Ward "got over" their problems and are fully reconstructed and that Activision is very happy with the result. The executive went on to say that there will be three studios working on the Call of Duty franchise including the newly formed studio Sledgehammer Games.[45][46]
Lawsuits[edit]

West and Zampella v. Activision[edit]

Following the initial news of West and Zampella's departure, it was reported that Infinity Ward has not received royalties from the sales of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, and that the developer may have breached their contract with Activision by holding meetings with other video game publishers including Electronic Arts.[42][47] This was revealed to be the reason behind the firings when West and Zampella filed a lawsuit against Activision on March 4, 2010 over "substantial royalty payments" that Activision failed to pay them in the weeks leading up to their firing. According to their attorney Robert Schwartz, Activision had hired lawyers to investigate West and Zampella on charges of insubordination and breaches of contract in February, which culminated in their dismissal. West and Zampella's lawsuit was filed to force Activision to compensate West and Zampella for the unpaid royalties, and to secure contractual rights over the Modern Warfare branch of the Call of Duty franchise, among other things.[48] If their lawsuit is successful, West and Zampella could retain the power to halt the development and release of any future games and downloadable content in the Modern Warfare setting.[47]
On April 9, 2010 a countersuit was filed by Activision stating their actions in firing Zampella and West were justified, calling the two "self-serving schemers".[49] Zampella and West's attorney responded to the countersuit the same day saying the publisher's claims are "false and outrageous".[50] The trial date for this case was revealed on July 9, 2010 to be scheduled for May 23, 2011 but was rescheduled for December 14, 2011.[51] It was then rescheduled again for March 29, 2012, and further rescheduled for June 1st.[52] On March 31, 2012, The two parties agreed to a confidential settlement.[53] The countersuit mentioned that Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 is in development, and it is scheduled for release on November 8, 2011.[54]
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Frank

Frank

Zampella and West seem like they're locked in some sort of insane loop. Make successful franchise, become dissatisfied with publisher, go to competing publisher, rinse, repeat.
 
Necronic

Necronic

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so, some seriously respectable developers.

I think the most interesting thing they have brought to this game are the NPCs. Its really interesting trying to pick out the players from the NPCs before they kill you. That said the NPCs need to be more difficult/powerful. I think I've been killed by NPCs once ever.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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Necronic said:
so, some seriously respectable developers.

I think the most interesting thing they have brought to this game are the NPCs. Its really interesting trying to pick out the players from the NPCs before they kill you. That said the NPCs need to be more difficult/powerful. I think I've been killed by NPCs once ever.
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Sounds like Battlefield 1942, which also had bots. The bots were idiots, but they camoflaged the players, and you could have fun with 2 or 3 players against 20 bots.
 
Necronic

Necronic

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It's out. Feel free to hang onto your outdated views on origin if you will, but if you're willing to take a risk the game is fucking great.
 
Necronic

Necronic

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is.....that actually him? I normally would just assume this is a fake, but he did that between two ferns thing.

ed: ok nevermind that's not him...still, neat
 
Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Bought it. Love it. Having a blast. Never played a FPS PVP game other than TF2 before and this is a blast. Quick short rounds, level up system, just fun. Feel the effects of being new, getting owned by higher level player loadouts, but still fun.
 
SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Gilgamesh said:
Feel the effects of being new, getting owned by higher level player loadouts, but still fun.
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That will go away pretty soon once you start picking up weapon attachments and then it will just come down to familiarity and skill and style. There aren't really any super-broken weapons (human or Titan) or attachments that can't be negated or matched by a different weapon in a different circumstance (with the possible exception of the satchel charge).

Heck, I use the starter assault rifle and an ACOG scope, and that's one of the earliest weapon/attachment combos that get unlocked.

The 40mm cannon with rapid-fire was kind of the only truly broken one, and that got nerfed.
 
Frank

Frank

Bowielee said:
So, Gilgamesh, what was the RPG that you recently loved to pieces?

Y'know, the one that is an EA game? ;)
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On the positive side, I don't think EA gets much from sales of it off of Origin (I think the state of Rhode Island gets the lion's share) and you can buy it off of Origin.
 
Bowielee

Bowielee

I think I'm probably less annoyed by Origin than I am by Uplay.

Which, BTW was the only account I have that was apparently affected by the Heartbleed virus.
 
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