Tron : Discuss! (spoiler here be!)
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Just watched the 1982 Tron. Looked a little trippy to me, but I guess the 'Movie of the Year' clause in my geek contract demands I go see Tron: Legacy as well 
Plus, it's always nice to see Bruce... Boxleitner.
Plus, it's always nice to see Bruce... Boxleitner.
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Chibibar
Saw it at midnight showing, 3D, and stayed in line at 9pm???!?!?
It is pretty good. I like it.
It is pretty good. I like it.
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Chibibar
Yea.......... Kinda
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maron
I loved it and want to see it again. Whoever wrote it must have did their homework on the original because there are a few bits and pieces that were referenced from the first movie that you would not of thought of unless the first one was on your mind.
Does he yell "GRAAAAAH!" every 15 minutes like he did in the original?
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Chibibar
Yea... kinda
They did mention Tron and have some flashback but doesn't have a "role" in the new movie
major spoiler
Tron has been..... reallocated so technically he is in the movie. We figure out who was Tron after half way into the movie
Just watched it.
It was overall a solid enough movie, the effects were cool the storyline decent enough. I didn't think the 3D compared anywhere closely to Avatar though I was in a new 3D theater and they had the new immersive chairs and sound system which was pretty damn neat.
CGI Bridges was fantastic.
Disappointed with no end trailer though.
Olivia Wilde look delicious.
It was overall a solid enough movie, the effects were cool the storyline decent enough. I didn't think the 3D compared anywhere closely to Avatar though I was in a new 3D theater and they had the new immersive chairs and sound system which was pretty damn neat.
CGI Bridges was fantastic.
Disappointed with no end trailer though.
Olivia Wilde look delicious.
Yeah, the 3D was underwhelming, left me thinking "I paid an extra two bucks for that?"
I wasn't very happy with the CGI Bridges. It looked good at times, but at other times did feel very uncanny valley. Maybe this was intentional to reflect that Clu was the evil "fake." Or maybe I'm just a bitter Computer Graphics major who's had to write reports pointing out where I think the 3D looks "wrong" in certain movies and can't appreciate a good effect anymore.
One plot point that I don't recall being tied up: when Tron fell into the lake, he was shown returning to his normal state of mind, back to his "blue state." And then he was gone. It didn't show whether he actually died or not. I figured he was going to have a role in saving the good guys at the last minute, but he just disappeared. I felt like it was setting up a foreshadow to something than fell flat.
But other than that, I really liked it. Definitely worth a watch, but the 3D isn't necessary. Good story, good action and overall decent effects.
I wasn't very happy with the CGI Bridges. It looked good at times, but at other times did feel very uncanny valley. Maybe this was intentional to reflect that Clu was the evil "fake." Or maybe I'm just a bitter Computer Graphics major who's had to write reports pointing out where I think the 3D looks "wrong" in certain movies and can't appreciate a good effect anymore.
One plot point that I don't recall being tied up: when Tron fell into the lake, he was shown returning to his normal state of mind, back to his "blue state." And then he was gone. It didn't show whether he actually died or not. I figured he was going to have a role in saving the good guys at the last minute, but he just disappeared. I felt like it was setting up a foreshadow to something than fell flat.
But other than that, I really liked it. Definitely worth a watch, but the 3D isn't necessary. Good story, good action and overall decent effects.
I hope so, I was kind of disappointed with the way he went out as well.
Add in having to protect the grid from evil interests in the real world (maybe Dillinger's son and the head of the ENCOM board) and you've got a movie. They're also planning an animated series, and Bruce Boxleitner hasn't been super busy the last few years.....it would be nice if the show followed Tron trying to dismantle Clu's regime. A relative 1,000 years passed in The Grid during the 20 years Flynn was trapped according to what I read, so the time difference would more than account for The Grid being very different by a sequel.
I believe the concept in play here is called a "sequel hook", sir.
Can't say as I disagree. Maybe just a shout out then. "Rinzler" not derezzing is a better sequel hook anyways.
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TheBrew
I thought that it was awesome. I saw it in 3D and it will probably be another year before I see another 3D movie. It was cool at some points, but not great. However, it didn't make the movie worse, so that was something. Honestly, I actually enjoyed the plot more than I thought I would. It was exciting and interesting, but they didn't go overboard with the pathos. You didn't have characters stomping around looking all emo for half of the movie. Sam realized what had happened and I like that he didn't spend the entire movie mad at his dad for "leaving him".
I would recommend it, but 3D is take it or leave it. If you want to see it in 3D, go for it.
I would recommend it, but 3D is take it or leave it. If you want to see it in 3D, go for it.
I'm tentatively hoping this could be what the matrix decided not to be.
I really enjoyed the film, and had I the wherewithal I'd watch it in 3D a few more times.
I too was pleased that they didn't draw much of the plot from the "Boy whose father left him now has to grope through life as the bad boy then has to drag his father through the mud to make him atone for his sins" device. They did have to go for the "father gives up his life for his son", but in a way I believe that Kevin was also doing it for his own creation, and to propel his son into a position so that his creation could be further realized.
I was pleasantly surprised at the reasonably complex storyline and cast of characters - it wasn't overly complex, but it was more than the typical action popcorn flick.
I was also happy as an electronics/computer geek to see the digital world re-imagined. They could have gone overboard with the programs-as-living-creatures and made significantly more forced/contrived analogies between the real world and the grid. I'm glad they didn't go further than the original movie, and in fact it appears they pulled back somewhat from how far the original went in that direction.
I'm really glad they didn't try to integrate the internet and modern technology as a driving force. As a geek I'm interested in what really comprises the grid in the real world, but I'm also afraid they'd really muck it up if they tried to explain what it meant for, for instance, my iPhone.
I was amazed at the digital Jeff Bridges. I decided to stare at him for a few seconds near the middle to the end, and I could tell that the movement of his face was not entirely natural (the lips sliding over the teeth problem and not matching the speech was the most noticeable aspect of it). But it was stunningly easy to put my attention back onto the whole screen and not notice it at all, or be bothered by it. Sure, they used image capture techniques to capture the motion, and given that it was held in the grid world which being CGI might have also held up the suspenders of disbelief, but honestly I'm thinking that we're finally climbing out of the uncanny valley - to have a feature film where one of the major actors is nearly 100% CGI faced is amazing.
The music was very well done, and fit the environment perfectly.
I believe we can expect to see this as a rebooted franchise. They hedged their bets and finished the plot such that the movie could end there, but they left a lot of openings that would allow movement in a number of directions.
I was really disappointed at the battery packs on the back of their costumes. They obviously need a good EE to help them design a solution into the identity disc holder so there wouldn't be an ugly, boxy bump on their back. Bleah.
And it was worth watching it in 3D. It wasn't in-your-face amazing, but it was used to good effect to describe the environment in a way that can't be had on 2D. I suspect more films are going to be done this way - the movie set extends beyond the screen, rather than the movie coming out of the screen to meet you (which always felt visually weird, since you then had to integrate the theater with the movie).
So... yeah. Awesome film.
I really enjoyed the film, and had I the wherewithal I'd watch it in 3D a few more times.
I too was pleased that they didn't draw much of the plot from the "Boy whose father left him now has to grope through life as the bad boy then has to drag his father through the mud to make him atone for his sins" device. They did have to go for the "father gives up his life for his son", but in a way I believe that Kevin was also doing it for his own creation, and to propel his son into a position so that his creation could be further realized.
I was pleasantly surprised at the reasonably complex storyline and cast of characters - it wasn't overly complex, but it was more than the typical action popcorn flick.
I was also happy as an electronics/computer geek to see the digital world re-imagined. They could have gone overboard with the programs-as-living-creatures and made significantly more forced/contrived analogies between the real world and the grid. I'm glad they didn't go further than the original movie, and in fact it appears they pulled back somewhat from how far the original went in that direction.
I'm really glad they didn't try to integrate the internet and modern technology as a driving force. As a geek I'm interested in what really comprises the grid in the real world, but I'm also afraid they'd really muck it up if they tried to explain what it meant for, for instance, my iPhone.
I was amazed at the digital Jeff Bridges. I decided to stare at him for a few seconds near the middle to the end, and I could tell that the movement of his face was not entirely natural (the lips sliding over the teeth problem and not matching the speech was the most noticeable aspect of it). But it was stunningly easy to put my attention back onto the whole screen and not notice it at all, or be bothered by it. Sure, they used image capture techniques to capture the motion, and given that it was held in the grid world which being CGI might have also held up the suspenders of disbelief, but honestly I'm thinking that we're finally climbing out of the uncanny valley - to have a feature film where one of the major actors is nearly 100% CGI faced is amazing.
The music was very well done, and fit the environment perfectly.
I believe we can expect to see this as a rebooted franchise. They hedged their bets and finished the plot such that the movie could end there, but they left a lot of openings that would allow movement in a number of directions.
I was really disappointed at the battery packs on the back of their costumes. They obviously need a good EE to help them design a solution into the identity disc holder so there wouldn't be an ugly, boxy bump on their back. Bleah.
And it was worth watching it in 3D. It wasn't in-your-face amazing, but it was used to good effect to describe the environment in a way that can't be had on 2D. I suspect more films are going to be done this way - the movie set extends beyond the screen, rather than the movie coming out of the screen to meet you (which always felt visually weird, since you then had to integrate the theater with the movie).
So... yeah. Awesome film.
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Philosopher B.
Repostin' my review from Boney's movie thread:
Also, I think it's kind of funny how polarizing some aspects of the movie are. In the reviews I've seen/read, people either HATE or love Castor, and a lot of people have gone off on the young Jeff Bridges.
I saw the review Spoony posted, which, while nitpicky, brought up some things I didn't think of before. I still think it was a really fun time in the theatre, though.
Also, I think it's kind of funny how polarizing some aspects of the movie are. In the reviews I've seen/read, people either HATE or love Castor, and a lot of people have gone off on the young Jeff Bridges.
Dammit... STOP GIVING US DISSAPOINTTING ENDINGS JUST SO YOU CAN HAVE A SEQUEL.... really, was it that hard to end it with a giant fight between
That would have easily include a sequel hook by having Clu do something to the portal before Bridges goes through and gets stuck... then the next film starts with Flynn Jr. finding a way to go back in after a few weeks/months (and Dillingers kid found out about it etc.).
The premise had some great promise, but the the story in the film itself felt too erratic after Sam got digitised.
And did anyone else thng they used too many real props?! I mean if there's one movie where you can get awaywith using CGI that looks unreal this one is it... CGI Evil Program Young Bridges worked best when he had inhuman expresion on his face imo.
BTW, PA chimes in: http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/1134132281_DztUi-L.jpg
a rebooted/restored TRON and Clu (after Clu beats the shit out of the Flynn's and Quorra) instead of 5 seconds of fighting and a rather too obvious sacrifice?
That would have easily include a sequel hook by having Clu do something to the portal before Bridges goes through and gets stuck... then the next film starts with Flynn Jr. finding a way to go back in after a few weeks/months (and Dillingers kid found out about it etc.).
The premise had some great promise, but the the story in the film itself felt too erratic after Sam got digitised.
And did anyone else thng they used too many real props?! I mean if there's one movie where you can get awaywith using CGI that looks unreal this one is it... CGI Evil Program Young Bridges worked best when he had inhuman expresion on his face imo.
BTW, PA chimes in: http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/1134132281_DztUi-L.jpg
Saw it last night. Visually, I was blown away. That 200 million really shined through with the detail of the Grid. So yeah, visually? Gorgeous.
The story? Ehhhh. It was great action, but if you stopped to think about the story too much, a lot of it sorta falls apart. They had a lot of great ideas, but not all of them were fleshed out properly. Bridges was bloody amazing in it, though. The way he kept saying "man" and "dude" and such made me feel like he was trying to be The Dude.
But yeah, I don't regret seeing it in theatres. The 3-D was unnecessary, but the visuals in general were fantastic. I might go the full monty and pre-order the inevitable Blu-Ray.
The story? Ehhhh. It was great action, but if you stopped to think about the story too much, a lot of it sorta falls apart. They had a lot of great ideas, but not all of them were fleshed out properly. Bridges was bloody amazing in it, though. The way he kept saying "man" and "dude" and such made me feel like he was trying to be The Dude.
But yeah, I don't regret seeing it in theatres. The 3-D was unnecessary, but the visuals in general were fantastic. I might go the full monty and pre-order the inevitable Blu-Ray.
IMO it looked a bit too realistic (and they used too many real props), and i like my virtual worlds to be a bit more obviously virtual...
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