Where Do You Stand? (2016 Election)
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Seemed weird to me that Google had listed Trump as winning certain areas with 0% reporting.
As the day goes on, it's looking more and more like a Clinton vs Trump election.
As the day goes on, it's looking more and more like a Clinton vs Trump election.
Interestingly, both Clinton and Sanders poll pretty high against Trump (something like 60/36 Clinton/Trump and 55/43 Sanders/Trump). Now, this doesn't mean it'll LAST... they still have time to Dukakis this up, but it does seem to indicate that that ether Democrats are willing to show up just to keep Trump out or Republicans are already staying home.
Dave
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I'm just amused that Drumpf is what I see everywhere. Best Chrome extension EVER![DOUBLEPOST=1456929333,1456929219][/DOUBLEPOST]And Bernie does better against Drumpf than Hillary.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-sanders
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-sanders
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
Not a surprise to me in the least. Trump is an "outsider" candidate, but of the two outsiders, people prefer Bernie. Though how "outsider" a sitting senator even could be is another debate entirely.
Apparently Mitt Romney is going to give a speech on Thursday about the state of the 2016 election.
The problem being that the people who are voting for Trump aren't going to listen to him - and it's those people whose minds need changing, so what can a press conference possibly hope to achieve?
Some are hoping he'll announce his candidacy and force a brokered convention. An "establishment trick" in other words to avoid giving the candidacy outright to Trump.
I don't know, but this is shaping up to be a weird, weird election cycle.
Spend some time focusing on your local, state, and federal elections other than president, folks. We may not hold much sway over the presidency, but we do have a voice in who makes it far enough up the ladder that they get a good shot at it. Make sure your local and congressional leaders and representatives are honest and share your values.
The problem being that the people who are voting for Trump aren't going to listen to him - and it's those people whose minds need changing, so what can a press conference possibly hope to achieve?
Some are hoping he'll announce his candidacy and force a brokered convention. An "establishment trick" in other words to avoid giving the candidacy outright to Trump.
I don't know, but this is shaping up to be a weird, weird election cycle.
Spend some time focusing on your local, state, and federal elections other than president, folks. We may not hold much sway over the presidency, but we do have a voice in who makes it far enough up the ladder that they get a good shot at it. Make sure your local and congressional leaders and representatives are honest and share your values.
Unless he's running third party, he's basically too late to have any sort of impact on the election as a candidate. Only 6 states still have their primary filing still open, so he'd only be able to get on on 6 ballots. Regardless, I don't know why he's doing this NOW. If he wanted to be involved, the time to do it was 6 months ago.
Too late. My state has been sold to the highest bidder.
Can a Trump mind even be changed?
I asked my mom why she's voting for Trump and she said because he "tells it like it is." I asked her to specify what "it" refers to and in what way Trump is telling it so exactly. She shrugged and said, "I don't know, I just like him." No opinion on policy, no knowledge of what his intentions are, and there's a million Trumpers like her--they're voting for him because he's loud and angry.
Is there any reasoning to be had there?
And is the Republican party desperate enough to put Romney in the microwave and see if he's still edible?
Zappit
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I'm sure about 47% of the establishment would support him.
Do y'all remember mayor Rob Ford? Well, y'all seem to be on the way to electing his doppleganger your president. Trump Nation should be fun to watch. I just good there's a crack story involved. "yeah, I smoked it, but I didn't inhale."
GasBandit
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No, no, how a Trump story goes is "I know the most about crack. I'm the best at crack. They asked me 4 or 5 times to smoke crack but I didn't inhale, not like these guys, that one's a loser and this one's a liar. But I invented crack, then I invented the cure for crack. So we're going to make America great again."
Damn, I can even hear the point where he'd do his creepy quiet voice before getting boisterous again.
Mitt Romney really laid into Trump. I think he showed more human emotion in this instance than his entire 2012 campaign.
EDIT: And Trump's mature response essentially being that he could've had Romney suck his dick if he gave Romney the order.
EDIT: And Trump's mature response essentially being that he could've had Romney suck his dick if he gave Romney the order.
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Well, Trump just blew the anti-gay vote.
Yes.
And once again he advocated torture, war crimes, and general tyranny. He's all but admitted he's going to take a big steaming dump on the Oval Office carpet, then wipe his ass with the Constitution.
But what's even more galling is in the face of all that, Cruz has pledged to support him if he's the nominee. Thereby giving tacit approval to torture, war crimes, and general tyranny.
Your Republican Party, folks. Well deserving of getting the country nuked out of existence by January 25, 2017.
Well it's a really rock and a hard place situation. They've already made the pledge to support whoever wins the nomination.
If they say, "Well, no, I wouldn't support Trump" then they're essentially giving up the high ground and going back on their pledge. Further, they're telling the people voting in the primaries that they wouldn't support the person the people elected by vote. It's a very bad thing to do, and would damage their place in the party.
If they say they will support him, then they get people like you complaining about the pledge they took before they found that Trump was a contender.
I don't think there's a good way around this, other than to publicly declare that they will uphold their pledge, and support the voter's choice while also saying, "Look at this guy! He's terrible! Don't vote for him if you don't want me to support him!"
But at the end of the day it's just politics, and they may ultimately change their mind.
One thing I did get, though, is a distinct sense that Trump isn't a shoe-in right now, and a lot of people are working hard to make sure he doesn't get the nomination. If it becomes a brokered convention I'd like to believe that cooler heads will prevail, but there's still a lot of primaries to go, and I'm hoping that he doesn't come out ahead.
So... I have a legit question regarding Republican delegates: What do they do when a winner drops out? Does it all goes to second place or do the delegates get to decide for themselves? Because I could see one of the reasons being why people still aren't dropping out is entirely because of what would happen to their delegates if they do... no one wants Trump to win or to be responsible for him winning, so even the guys who can't win are trying to keep him from winning by staying in the race.
... which means Trump needs to win a clear win of the popular vote, which is why everyone else is staying in. It's the same thing as Bernie. ALL of this is just Kabuki for the voters at this point unless Trump wins a huge on the 15th.
Been on Youtube a bit today. Three videos ago, there was an a Republican-supported ad against Trump. Last video, it was a Democrat-supported ad against Trump.
Trump is bringing the country together!
Trump is bringing the country together!
Hell, Trump!
Don't usually like posting stuff from Gawker but...
Establishment Republicans Are Delusional About Hillary Clinton and in Denial About Trump.
Establishment Republicans Are Delusional About Hillary Clinton and in Denial About Trump.
The bit about the NRA guy is pretty sad. Even the biggest Republican supporters don't think they can win this one.
I know, that's sort of like saying "I have a blog" these days. I still thought the NRA bit was pretty fun though.
B
BErt
...I'm watching this goddamn Michigan primary with the intensity of an overtime playoff hockey game. C'MON BERNIE!!!