I guarantee you, neither are in as bad a shape as my beloved, 1981 Snuffles, "Snuggles". For starters, I plucked him bald as a child. (I have no idea why, I just remember the feeling was very soothing as I was trying to fall asleep.) We've had to put "toupees" over his ears and chest. The small plastic internal balls that give them weight fell out sometime in the 80's. The eyes and nose fell off and had to be replaced. My dad threw him into the washing machine without a pillow case and his back ripped open, leaving 3 huge scars where we sewed him back together. He is more Frankenstein's monster than bear at this point but I can never get rid of him. I love him.