Why aren't unlicensed drivers jailed for repeat violation?

[CrimsonSoul]

Oh hai, you don't have a license and caused an accident that put someone in critical condition... you're free to go

In her defense she's probably really really sorry :tumbleweed:

 

[Bubble181]

To be fair, re: the "it's easier to hack a,n electronic thing than to fake a real key"...There still hasn't been a successful, orking copy made of the Belgian identity card, using a chip, unless actually using someone else's chip (so, destroying one ID to make another - it's still useful, but not for this purpose).
And believe me, people *have* been trying - a Belgian ID counts as a passport for most of the EU and quite a few other countries, as a green card in all of the EU, and gives access to (emergency) health care. So, you know, it might be crackable, sure, but it's damn hard, too. And if you're dealing with those, well, they'll just rig their car.

Personally, I'm all in favour of a mandatory breathalizer and license check. Than again, I'm Flemish; we tend to be more willing to go a lot further into Big Brother land than most, for our security.

 

[drawn_inward]

Why aren't rapists and child molesters locked up for all time?

Now, that's a good question.

As for the drivers, getting caught is the difficult part. I've known far too many people with suspended licenses that drive around like it's no big thing. Most are DUI's/DWI's.

I think people think that driving is a right, not a privilege.

 

[strawman]

This is true. But inJanuary I'd have given my left nut to be able to find that Jeremy guy.

Are you sure? And would you also have wanted a prosthetic to replace the missing one to retain the same look/feel?

If not, you could have the nickname Uno instead of Turbo...

-Adam

 

[Steven Soderburgin]

I know several people who have been in accidents with people driving without insurance and a license and they are not taken into custody. I'm sure if it was me driving without a license I'd get the maximum penalty.

why do you say this?

 

[MindDetective]

I know several people who have been in accidents with people driving without insurance and a license and they are not taken into custody. I'm sure if it was me driving without a license I'd get the maximum penalty.

why do you say this?

Severe halitosis.

 

[PatrThom]

Shaken, not stirred.

As for the car starting, it wouldn't be that hard to do a lot of things to make cars safer.
-Make cars need a SIM to work. They already have OnStar/cell phones or BT to an existing cell phone. Give a limited number of 'cached' starts for when the network is unavailable.
-Blow-to-start cars are already being trialed for repeat DWI/DUI offenders.
-Fail your swipe/blow? Flash lights/horn for 1min, disable for 5min.
-Install GPS in cars or have them read RFID embedded in roadways, make them auto-ticket you for speeding or just have every car put its current speed in a huge LED display on the back.
-Govern all cars at 70MPH/120kmH (or whatever the highest speed limit is in your country/continent). If there isn't one, set one.
-Make every driver have to go through when they get/renew their license. Too many failures and no license for you until next week.

Sure, most of these could be easily subverted, but they're all relatively simple to implement.

--Patrick

 

[Cog]

Why aren't rapists and child molesters locked up for all time?

In the same room?

 

[Steve]

I know several people who have been in accidents with people driving without insurance and a license and they are not taken into custody. I'm sure if it was me driving without a license I'd get the maximum penalty.

why do you say this?

Because of the dead hooker in my trunk. Cops can be dillweeds when it comes to shit like that. C'mon, officer, she's dead. Not like she needs to be riding shotgun.

Plus I actually have money. Not racially profiling here because poor is poor, it doesn't know skin color or nationality, but the people I work with who have any minor infraction (expired tag, not carrying insurance verification in the vehicle or forgetting the license) end up with the very least a ticket and trip to downtown courthouse but people who drive a 67 pickup (this is Oklahoma full of white trash rednecks) with no insurance, no license, an empty 12 pack in the back of the pickup bed, runs a red light, sideswipes my coworker on a Sunday morning, totals her vehicle, does not get arrested and no ticket issued then despite the fact that they have no license and insurance. I run a fucking YELLOW light, a YELLOW light and some copsuker pulls me over.

 

I know several people who have been in accidents with people driving without insurance and a license and they are not taken into custody. I'm sure if it was me driving without a license I'd get the maximum penalty.

why do you say this?

Because of the dead hooker in my trunk. Cops can be dillweeds when it comes to shit like that. C'mon, officer, she's dead. Not like she needs to be riding shotgun.

Plus I actually have money. Not racially profiling here because poor is poor, it doesn't know skin color or nationality, but the people I work with who have any minor infraction (expired tag, not carrying insurance verification in the vehicle or forgetting the license) end up with the very least a ticket and trip to downtown courthouse but people who drive a 67 pickup (this is Oklahoma full of white trash rednecks) with no insurance, no license, an empty 12 pack in the back of the pickup bed, runs a red light, sideswipes my coworker on a Sunday morning, totals her vehicle, does not get arrested and no ticket issued then despite the fact that they have no license and insurance. I run a fucking YELLOW light, a YELLOW light and some copsuker pulls me over.

I'd really like to say you're wrong, but we both know you're not exaggerating by that much.

 

[PatrThom]

I'd really like to say you're wrong, but we both know you're not exaggerating by that much.

He's not. I've been ticketed for running a yellow light. Suckage.

--Patrick

 

[Mr_Chaz]

It's strange. In the UK if your license is suspended? You don't drive. Ok, a handful of people break the rules, but it is really only a minority. If you watch the British cop shows, Traffic Cop type things, they do occasionally pull over people with a suspended license, but not very often. But watching the US cop shows? All the time. Almost everyone they pull over in those shows has no valid license. I wonder why that is?

Is it editing, do they only show those people?
Do more of them get caught in the States?
Or is there actually a much higher percentage of suspended drivers who keep on driving anyway?

I'm curious.

 

[tegid]

I think it probably has to do with the perception that driving is a right and not a privilege. Americans have this, dont they (you)?

 

[Tinwhistler]

actually, it's more likely due to the fact that it's so much harder to get anything done in the US without a car. Our cities were built with car driving in mind.

Up until very recently, when a grocery store was built a scant mile and half from me, the closest grocer to me was 5 miles away. This is not because I chose to live in the boonies. This is just normal for much of the US. I dunno about you, but I don't really think milk would last very long walking 5 miles (over an hour) in 100 degree texas summer heat. If my license got suspended, I'm sure I'd continue to drive.

 

[Mr_Chaz]

actually, it's more likely due to the fact that it's so much harder to get anything done in the US without a car. Our cities were built with car driving in mind.

Up until very recently, when a grocery store was built a scant mile and half from me, the closest grocer to me was 5 miles away. This is not because I chose to live in the boonies. This is just normal for much of the US. I dunno about you, but I don't really think milk would last very long walking 5 miles (over an hour) in 100 degree texas summer heat. If my license got suspended, I'm sure I'd continue to drive.

Fair point, I hadn't thought of it that way. Although to me that would just make it all the more important to not get my license suspended.

 

[Tinwhistler]

Fair point, I hadn't thought of it that way. Although to me that would just make it all the more important to not get my license suspended.

Well, naturally.

 

[Chibibar]

actually, it's more likely due to the fact that it's so much harder to get anything done in the US without a car. Our cities were built with car driving in mind.

Up until very recently, when a grocery store was built a scant mile and half from me, the closest grocer to me was 5 miles away. This is not because I chose to live in the boonies. This is just normal for much of the US. I dunno about you, but I don't really think milk would last very long walking 5 miles (over an hour) in 100 degree texas summer heat. If my license got suspended, I'm sure I'd continue to drive.

Fair point, I hadn't thought of it that way. Although to me that would just make it all the more important to not get my license suspended.

because in most non-top 10 cities, public transportation is crap. Even some of the top cities in the U.S. public transportation is crap. (that is a generalization, some is not bad. my wife still swore by LA's public transportation)

 

[Mr_Chaz]

actually, it's more likely due to the fact that it's so much harder to get anything done in the US without a car. Our cities were built with car driving in mind.

Up until very recently, when a grocery store was built a scant mile and half from me, the closest grocer to me was 5 miles away. This is not because I chose to live in the boonies. This is just normal for much of the US. I dunno about you, but I don't really think milk would last very long walking 5 miles (over an hour) in 100 degree texas summer heat. If my license got suspended, I'm sure I'd continue to drive.

Fair point, I hadn't thought of it that way. Although to me that would just make it all the more important to not get my license suspended.

because in most non-top 10 cities, public transportation is crap. Even some of the top cities in the U.S. public transportation is crap. (that is a generalization, some is not bad. my wife still swore by LA's public transportation)

Well yeah, someone I know was banned from driving, and he started cycling 20 miles each way to get to work

 

[DarkAudit]

because in most non-top 10 cities, public transportation is crap. Even some of the top cities in the U.S. public transportation is crap. (that is a generalization, some is not bad. my wife still swore by LA's public transportation)

And that's long after GM paid off the powers that be in LA to scrap the streetcars in favor of GM's buses. :eyeroll:

 

because in most non-top 10 cities, public transportation is crap. Even some of the top cities in the U.S. public transportation is crap. (that is a generalization, some is not bad. my wife still swore by LA's public transportation)

And that's long after GM paid off the powers that be in LA to scrap the streetcars in favor of GM's buses. :eyeroll:

That wasn't GM! That was Judge Doom after he bought the Red Car lines. Get your history straight.

 

[Chibibar]

[quote="Mr_Chaz":1f54sxao]

actually, it's more likely due to the fact that it's so much harder to get anything done in the US without a car. Our cities were built with car driving in mind.

Up until very recently, when a grocery store was built a scant mile and half from me, the closest grocer to me was 5 miles away. This is not because I chose to live in the boonies. This is just normal for much of the US. I dunno about you, but I don't really think milk would last very long walking 5 miles (over an hour) in 100 degree texas summer heat. If my license got suspended, I'm sure I'd continue to drive.

Fair point, I hadn't thought of it that way. Although to me that would just make it all the more important to not get my license suspended.

because in most non-top 10 cities, public transportation is crap. Even some of the top cities in the U.S. public transportation is crap. (that is a generalization, some is not bad. my wife still swore by LA's public transportation)

Well yeah, someone I know was banned from driving, and he started cycling 20 miles each way to get to work [/quote:1f54sxao]

I bet he is WAY healthier than I am because of it too.
I don't think I can survive 20 miles of cycling....... much less 5 miles

 

[DarkAudit]

because in most non-top 10 cities, public transportation is crap. Even some of the top cities in the U.S. public transportation is crap. (that is a generalization, some is not bad. my wife still swore by LA's public transportation)

And that's long after GM paid off the powers that be in LA to scrap the streetcars in favor of GM's buses. :eyeroll:

That wasn't GM! That was Judge Doom after he bought the Red Car lines. Get your history straight.

Who do you think he was working for? :moon:

 

[Chazwozel]

Swiping your license to ensure it's valid every time you get in a car to drive. Ain't nothin that would go wrong with this plan.

Mr. Simpson, how do you respond to the charges that petty vandalism such as graffiti and people driving without a license are down eighty percent, while heavy sack-beatings and license theft are up a shocking nine hundred percent?

Homer: Aw, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forty percent of all people know that.