[TV] Winter HAS COME! - A Game of Thrones

He even admitted to himself that he forgot a lot over the year and in fact asks questions on boards to get answers... TO HIS BOOKS.

What color were Arya's eyes again?

Post on internet, get answers.

Stop watching shitty American Football Martin and finish the books, it's been years now.

I'm happy I'm reading other books now, heck The First Law was sooo much better than I expected. In some ways, it comes together much more than TOFAI has ever have.
 
He even admitted to himself that he forgot a lot over the year and in fact asks questions on boards to get answers... TO HIS BOOKS.
I can understand this. There's a lot in there, across thousands of pages. Details can get muddled. Writing it well doesn't necessitate memorizing. Though he should have some kind of compendium or notes for his own use.
 
If he thinks people will give a shit about what happens in the last 2 books to last 3 seasons, he's got something coming. Also, child actors are getting old fast.
 
I'm only 200 or so pages into Dance and it's jumping back and forth between things actually happening and Feast-type "description of places that don't matter on and on and on." You know how long those descriptions last in a visual format? A minute. Maybe 90 seconds. That isn't going to carry three seasons, especially not of "Brienne does nothing" or "Jaime's already back in King's Landing, so there goes some stuff that would've been actual content in a Feast-based season".

Also, even if they could make three good seasons out of the Feast and Dance content, that would last through, what, 2017? He won't be finished with the seventh book even by then. Not at this rate.
 
I just now watched the first three seasons. Damn, they're good (though there are, of course, things I'd have done differently)

Storywise....Yeah, I know what's coming in the books as written so far, and I can't see three whole seasons out of what's left to go. On the contrary. I mean, in the first seasons, I had the feeling a bit more background and exposition might've been good (had to explain quite a few things to my girlfriend who hasn't read the books). I thought the first book could easily have been 3 episodes longer without dragging on.
The last books? Err, nothing happens. I mean, 3 seasons and we're somewhere around 3 books down - bits and pieces from 4 already told, bits from 3 untold, but all in all - 1 book per season. Comparing "where is everyone now in the books" vs "where is everyone in the series"...I'd actually say they could fit everything of importance in one season. I guess we'll get a whole lot of (book spoilers, obviously)
Dorne, Dorne and Dorne; Brienne doing nothing much, Jaime doing nothing much, schemes in King's Landing going nowhere, more and more religious overtones, Arya and Sam moving at a glacial pace as always...
cut with
Jon still has a decent development to come, Cat returning, Dany doing....err, well, also not much, but her chapters are among the best anyway, and Stannis marching North

But really, all of that is less involved and less difficult than Book One.

GRRM needs to come out and admit he's been trolling us, and publish books 6a, 6b and 7 all at once.
 
When the guy giving you the most interesting story development is Jon Snow in the last 2 books, odds are, you're not doing something right.
 
When the guy giving you the most interesting story development is Jon Snow in the last 2 books, odds are, you're not doing something right.
Eh, I like Jon. And while I'm not overly fond of Arya, her storyline has promise....It just takes far too f'n long. Same for Sam: I'm curious what'll happen to him, but 5 of his chapters pass by and he's still in the exact same situation as before. My problem isn't the characters, but the dragging-things-out.

I'm sure we all expect Tyrion to end up with Dany. And I'm certainly not alone in thinking Arya and Catelyn still have a role to play on the "other" side of the fence (not necessarily as "bad guys" - R'hlorr isn't exactly "the good guy" despite also standing against the Cold). Bran just needs to get to wherever it is he's going and learn his stuff. Rickon....I still don't give a crap about Rickon - he's completely useless in the books and despite being twice as old, just as useless in the show. Thing is that some of the arcs - Sam, Arya, perhaps Bran and Rickon, Jon - really seem to need a "two years have passed, and our characters have learned much in the mean time".
 
There's just too much "Hey reader, welcome to this new place, let me tell you all about it. No, I mean ALL about it."

I don't care about all the fucking places Brienne goes to. They don't matter. So much of Feast just doesn't fucking matter. It's incredible that book 3 could be stuffed full of events and character development and moments, and then Feast is pretty much, you could skip whole chapters if you wanted. Cersei and Jaime have the only major plot and character development except for a few characters' final chapters, such as Sansa, Arya, and Sam.

Fuck the iron islanders. Nobody cares.
 
I hear that's how the series was supposed to be, back when it was going to be 3 books.
No, the trilogy aspect was abandoned after book 1. What was supposed to happen was after book 3, there was going to be a five year gap. George RR Martin tried wrapping up those five years in a summary. When that summary got to around 100 pages, he realized it wasn't going to work that way and started Feast properly. So yeah, Feast and much of Dance (possibly all of Dance, I still have 800 pages to go) are the books that weren't supposed to exist.

Maybe that's why Winds of Winter is taking so long. He has to get used to writing content again.
 
No, the trilogy aspect was abandoned after book 1. What was supposed to happen was after book 3, there was going to be a five year gap. George RR Martin tried wrapping up those five years in a summary. When that summary got to around 100 pages, he realized it wasn't going to work that way and started Feast properly. So yeah, Feast and much of Dance (possibly all of Dance, I still have 800 pages to go) are the books that weren't supposed to exist.

Maybe that's why Winds of Winter is taking so long. He has to get used to writing content again.
Honestly I think he's lost interest. Thats why the descriptions of meaningless things seem to be taking center stage. Because he doesn't care about the story anymore.
 
Honestly I think he's lost interest. Thats why the descriptions of meaningless things seem to be taking center stage. Because he doesn't care about the story anymore.
I hope you're wrong. I want to see a proper conclusion to the events of the books, not just the events of the show, which are two different things.
 
I hope you're wrong. I want to see a proper conclusion to the events of the books, not just the events of the show, which are two different things.
Guy will die before it's done. You can count on it.

Read "The First Law" trilogy.

Much better.
 
From his latest blog post:

"(And yes, sadly, "The Rogue Prince" is an abridged account as well. For the full version, you will all need to wait some years, until we publish the complete history of House Targaryen in the GRRMarillion... which, by the way, I've decided I am going to call FIRE AND BLOOD, since the GRRMarillion joke has grown somewhat stale by now)."

:trolol:
Yeah, sure, you are going to write some more books after aSoIaF. Hahah... DON'T BE AN ASSHOLE and either get writing already or give your notes to some other writer!
 

Necronic

Staff member
So here's a fun question. Who's the greatest warrior in the series? Alive or dead (different answers I presume). Also, please spoiler anything that hasn't been in the show yet.
 
While he may not be the greatest, Jaimie Lannister is going to be pretty high on the list. I always liked that about his character, at first glance he appears to be a pompous prettyboy, and even Ned notes about how is armor is perfect and shiny, like it's never been used. But he has the skills to back up his ego.
 
Ravenpoe said:
While he may not be the greatest, Jaimie Lannister is going to be pretty high on the list. I always liked that about his character, at first glance he appears to be a pompous prettyboy, and even Ned notes about how is armor is perfect and shiny, like it's never been used. But he has the skills to back up his ego.
*had
 
This mother fucker right here:


Dude was kicking the Hound's ass into his late 50's in the tournaments and he murdered his way free of King's Landing without a sword.
 
My favorites always were the old knight and the dancing master.

Selmy was badass enough to stand up to Joffrey, says a lot about what he was capable all around to me. And there's still no evidence to the death of Syrio Forel; no head on a spike, nothing...
 
I'd toss a vote in for Khal Drogo. He basically won a kingdom through combat, hadn't ever been bested in personal combat in a loooong time, and really only got taken down by infection from a nasty, but not directly lethal, slice across his chest.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Bronn. He's got great fighting skills and is smart about fighting. Close second is Tywin.
Eehhh I dunno, Bronn wins because he picks his fights. He's not afraid to fight a heavily armed and armored knight because he knows he can wear him down. Might be a different story against, say, Khal Drogo.
 
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