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Women Rule and Men Drool..... Says CNN.

#1

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/04/opinion/bennett-men-in-trouble/index.html?hpt=hp_c1 My favorite part is the picture on the top of the guy playing video games. CNN has the best reporters.


#2

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

This helps further my goal of becoming boytoy to a rich sugar momma.


#3

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I don't know about that, if the article is to be taken as truth, as soon as women can procreate 100% without a man's assistance (pretty much a possibility around the corner) you're going to become obsolete and left behind to fend for yourselves.


#4



makare

I can't believe this is an actual news story. I am amused.


#5

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Oh, you'll still keep us around just to be entertained by all the stupid things we do.


#6

GasBandit

GasBandit

The Founding Fathers believed, and the evidence still shows, that industriousness, marriage and religion are a very important basis
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I did not expect to find this in a shego-linked article.


#7

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Cheesy1 said:
Oh, you'll still keep us around just to be entertained by all the stupid things we do.
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Oh I have plans, but it won't be the stupid things you do that will entertain me. Throwing a sandwich into an arena to watch two starving men fight to the death, while throngs of loin cloth and bare chested women lay at my throne? That'll be entertaining. The best part, is the sandwich is laced with a slow killing poison invented by some gorgeous female scientist in my labs. The sandwich? Was made by another male slave. Just to add to the symphony of irony.


#8



makare

I thought it was posted with irony? Now i am confused.


#9

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

GasBandit said:
I did not expect to find this in a shego-linked article.
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Are you kidding? That part made it 10x more funny.


I hate that I can't edit posts when at work with this proxy....


#10

Fun Size

Fun Size

I'm only excited because once this occurs, we can go back to sitcoms where the women are stupid.


#11

Fun Size

Fun Size

Okay, now seriously, after reading this:

The Founding Fathers believed, and the evidence still shows, that industriousness, marriage and religion are a very important basis for male empowerment and achievement.
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I'm looking forward to the follow up piece lamenting the modern woman's lack of dishwashing and pie-making skills.


#12



makare

I thought men have been dumb on tv since its inception?


#13

GasBandit

GasBandit

makare said:
I thought men have been dumb on tv since its inception?
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The glorification of the immature male, the underachiever, is relatively new. A whole lot more of our movie and TV "heroes" these days are unemployable slacker dudes with little assertiveness and no ambition in life other than to suffer through the minimum amount of grown-up stuff they have to put up with to fund their gaming/pot habit. I know - there but for the grace of god go even I.

Sure, Robert Petrie was a goofball, but he was a hard working, sole-breadwinning TV executive with a wife and child. Somewhere along the line, Maynard Krebs stopped being comic relief and Dobie Gillis started being the jerk/villain.


#14

Fun Size

Fun Size

Besides, this is good news for us hard-working, family raising men of good moral character. Our fine traits will make us Gods in a sea of tea-bagging, Xbox-playing "bros". In ten years, I might be lording over my very own harem.

You know...if my wife says it's cool.


#15



makare

So they've always been dumb but now they are dumb AND losers?


#16

GasBandit

GasBandit

makare said:
So they've always been dumb but now they are dumb AND losers?
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Succinctly put. And portrayed in such a way as to be shown to be "living the dream" because of it.


#17



makare

Seriously though I wish that assessing college attendance by gender wasn't so important. Why can't we look at it as a total percentage of potential workforce instead of by gender. That just frustrates me.


#18

GasBandit

GasBandit

And it doesn't just have to be "gamers." Think about the 3 male leads on "Friends." The only one approaching classical "manliness" is a perpetually unemployed/underemployed actor who sponges an existence off his best friend. The other two are a geek wuss and a "childhood issues" wuss.


#19



makare

Well but really how common was actual classical manliness anyway? Maybe tv is just showing more of what average guys have always been like. Not the gamer thing but the just average joe guys not mahnly mahns.


#20

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

makare said:
I thought men have been dumb on tv since its inception?
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I've seen a few of the older TV shows where women were pretty much the opposite of what they're portrayed like on TV today. Lucielle Ball comes to mind. Only time you see a women acting that stupid/slapstick is on SNL.
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Shegokigo said:
I've seen a few of the older TV shows where women were pretty much the opposite of what they're portrayed like on TV today. Lucielle Ball comes to mind. Only time you see a women acting that stupid/slapstick is on SNL.
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Also the man was "classier" too (Ricky Ricardo).
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Ugh I meant to quote Makare's post about classical manliness back then.


#21



makare

I am not saying all guys were dumb but it was a common theme since the beginning. I mean the Honeymooners comes to mind.


#22

Frank

Frankie Williamson



Author of article, angry about it not being 1962 anymore.


#23

Null

Null

makare said:
I am not saying all guys were dumb but it was a common theme since the beginning. I mean the Honeymooners comes to mind.
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I'm not sure if Jackie Gleason's character was supposed to be an idiot, and he definitely wasn't a slacker.

Over the last few years there have been a lot of romantic comedies and sitcoms based around lead male characters that were essentially happy losers, or at least immature man-children.


#24

Fun Size

Fun Size

Shegokigo said:
Lucielle Ball comes to mind.
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That's actually exactly what I was thinking of. The only thing that comes close to that today is Jenna on 30 Rock, and she's still outdone by Tracy Morgan every time.


#25



makare

Ralph Kramden was a doofus. My husband the lovable dolt that was the theme.


#26

Hylian

Hylian

Shegokigo said:
I don't know about that, if the article is to be taken as truth, as soon as women can procreate 100% without a man's assistance (pretty much a possibility around the corner) you're going to become obsolete and left behind to fend for yourselves.
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#27



makare

are they roasting captain picard?


#28

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Hylian said:
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Close enough ;)


#29

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

makare said:
are they roasting captain picard?
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Obviously in a future full of almost entirely women, they are going to be Kirk fans.

Actually, looking at the image again, I think that is Kirk's head located to the right. Either Sisko is the luckiest man alive, or all these women love Captain Janeway and worship her like a god.


#30

GasBandit

GasBandit

makare said:
Ralph Kramden was a doofus. My husband the lovable dolt that was the theme.
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Low intelligence and class, sure, but he was also a career bus driver with deeply ingrained notions of what it meant to be a man - to be in charge, to be assertive, to be a breadwinner. Whenever any of those things were threatened, he became severely unhappy.

Look at the old examples of leading men in media. They basically range from Fred Flintstone to Ward Cleaver. The slackers or less masculine men were relegated to comic relief or other such sidelines. Hell, even Gilligan, the complete antithesis for pre-generation X manliness, was the hardest working screwup you ever did see - and he was gainfully employed (until the storm, of course). He and the Skipper were just working class schlubs, but they were *working,* not slacking.

The closest these guys ever came to today's slacker heroes was when Fred and Barney would occasionally sneak out of the house, perhaps under false pretenses, to go bowling. But even that was a temporary diversion. Fred's justification for his self, his identity, was his work. It's why George Jetson and Dagwood Bumstead were forever absolutely terrified of losing their jobs even though they worked for horrible tyrants - if they weren't providing for their wives and children, they suffered soul-crushing bouts of depression and anxiety.

A far cry away from the typical male media hero of today, like Seth Rogen's character in "Knocked up" - a perpetually unemployed illegal canadian living in a house with 5 other guys whose only income is an old injury settlement who spends his days either drunk or playing video games with absolutely no plan or care for the future. And we're supposed to identify with his struggles.

We're a generation of men raised to admire - even envy - Bart Simpson, Dave Chappelle, Randall Graves and Jeffrey "The Dude" Lebowski.


#31

Tress

Tress

I'll worry about men when the fundamental systems of society prevent them from making any worthwhile achievements, or society itself treats them as inferior cattle to be used and abused. In the meantime, I'm not going to shed a tear if more guys are acting like immature dumbasses. I have no sympathy for self-inflicted wounds.


#32

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

@GasB - Well well written. That's pretty much exactly what I was going for but half-reading-posting at work is killing my concentration.


#33



makare

I've concluded that as usual you are completely missing my point, so this is the last post I'll be making.


#34

GasBandit

GasBandit

The classic representation of the successful male in society had very little to do with his intelligence.... was the point the rest of us have failed to make you understand it seems. It was never about who was "stupid."


#35

Frank

Frankie Williamson

GasBandit said:
Dave Chappelle
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I dunno, he's pretty fucking wealthy.


#36

GasBandit

GasBandit

Frankie Williamson said:
I dunno, he's pretty fucking wealthy.
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I meant the characters he plays. Like in Half Baked. The actors who portray all those characters are pretty well off.


#37

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Of course women rule, they control 100% of the vagina supply.


#38

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

I hardly have any time to play video games and slack off anymore. Too busy raising a family, teaching my son about the world, getting ready for son number two and working at my job.


#39

GasBandit

GasBandit

Azurephoenix said:
I hardly have any time to play video games and slack off anymore. Too busy raising a family, teaching my son about the world, getting ready for son number two and working at my job.
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Then by today's definition, you have failed as a man.


#40

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

That guy also famously said that it would be horrible, despicable, and deplorable to abort all African-American babies, but it would lower the crime rate.


#41

GasBandit

GasBandit

That he did. I postulate he didn't go far enough. I say, if you abort EVERY baby, within a mere century the crime rate will drop to 0% and stay there.


#42

CrimsonSoul

CrimsonSoul

This topic misspelled give blowjobs and clean the kitchen. Not sure how they got that confused with "rule"


#43

Null

Null

I think it's rather amusing that the banner ad at the bottom of this thread is "Russian Love Match", and at the header is "Geek 2 Geek".


#44

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Doesn't the propensity toward slacker males with no careers give the rest of us better odds at rising and dominating the sheep-like masses?

Some people are leaders, some are followers. Just the way it is.


#45

GasBandit

GasBandit

Quotemander Prime said:
Doesn't the propensity toward slacker males with no careers give the rest of us better odds at rising and dominating the sheep-like masses?
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No, because the rest of us are misogynists by default. And Jerks. Karma will get us.... just wait till Earl and Randall Hickey come 'round.


#46

Jay

Jay

If women ruled the world there would be no wars. Just a bunch of jealous countries not talking to each other.


#47

Null

Null

"Hey, Denmark, this is Sweden, why are you bombing me?" "Oh, I think you *know* why."


#48

PatrThom

PatrThom

I'm not sure how I would take the elimination of the Y chromosome from the gene pool. The only thing I can think of is that it must have been a long time coming (there are no remaining YY organisms, after all).

--Patrick


#49

Terrik

Terrik

I guess I drool...a little...


#50

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Jay said:
If women ruled the world there would be no wars. Just a bunch of jealous countries not talking to each other.
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Except for in the middle east. Israeli women (all militarily trained, all 1.4 million of them between 18-50) would fucking end the rest of the region.

Y the Last Man rules.


#51



Chibibar

Fun Size said:
Besides, this is good news for us hard-working, family raising men of good moral character. Our fine traits will make us Gods in a sea of tea-bagging, Xbox-playing "bros". In ten years, I might be lording over my very own harem.

You know...if my wife says it's cool.
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I got an ok by my wife :) woo!

makare said:
Seriously though I wish that assessing college attendance by gender wasn't so important. Why can't we look at it as a total percentage of potential workforce instead of by gender. That just frustrates me.
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They did that cause to show women empowerment :)


#52



eww

Thanks for playing, enjoy our lovely parting gifts: a swift boot to the ass and an all expense paid trip to loserville!!!
-Espy


#53

Frank

Frankie Williamson

ha ha ha ha, what?


#54

bhamv3

bhamv3

Uhh... Thread Necromancer's posting as a guest now?

And is inexplicably dickish?


#55

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Also, at least if Shegs's posts are anything to rely on, rejection ain't on the table right now. Unless you count the natural resistance against intrusion by the female cer... and I think I'll stop there before I say something very dirty.


#56

bhamv3

bhamv3

Plus Shego's known to be fairly attractive.

Or so I've heard. From other people.

Please don't kill me Shego.


#57

strawman

strawman

eww could be targeting everyone simultaneously. Statistically speaking, with 7 billion humans, over half of them female, any individual woman is "probably not the most attractive girl"

Further, every girl gets rejected - even the pretty/beautiful/attractive ones. How they react to the rejection to some degree defines their overall level of happiness and joy, and so wishing them good luck is more likely a call to treat rejection as merely a bump in the road rather than the personal attack some take it to be.

:csi:


#58

fade

fade

The article lost me at "op-ed".


#59

Dave

Dave

Is this our first bad Guest comment? I think it is!

And the award goes to...EWW! Accepting for Eww is me.

I'd like to thank the academy for recognizing the fact that my post was disjointed, unfocused and rude. It is difficult in this day and age to overcome the legion of trolls and bad posters to make a comment that stands out and can be noticed. I'd also like to thank Dave for allowing me the ability to make inane comments. Without him none of this would be possible. Oh, and I'd like to thank my personal Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who is too busy helping me win this award to feed the starving kids in Africa. Thanks, God!


#60

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

No way, I'm pretty sure the first bad Guest comment goes to "Not an Idiot" in Hoboninja's thread about whether or not Marketsource is a scam.


#61

strawman

strawman

I demand a recount!


#62

Dave

Dave

Allen who is Quiet said:
No way, I'm pretty sure the first bad Guest comment goes to "Not an Idiot" in Hoboninja's thread about whether or not Marketsource is a scam.
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True, but at least in that thread the guy was answering a specific point. Even if he was nothing more than a corporate shill (and I'm not 100% sure he was as it could have been a good job for him), he was still on topic. This guy's comment was out of nowhere, necro'd a thread dead a month ago and was insulting someone but didn't say who.

He still wins.


#63

strawman

strawman

The judge's criteria is terrible! OCCUPY HALFORUMS! WE ARE THE oooh, a new rage comic was posted, brb...


#64

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Not an Idiot got robbed.
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Dave, next time we're giving out the award for Oldest Forumite, we're going to pass you by in favor of somebody younger and sexier.


#65

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I'm quite amused by this ressurection. Almost as amused as I was by Alien Ressurection. Thank you, for the amusement.


#66

PatrThom

PatrThom

Darn, late to the party.

--Patrick


#67

Adam

Adammon

I work in a financial insitutition. You don't have to tell me man's days are numbered. I'm surrounded by hot, intelligent, ambitious women all day long. There's not one man on the front line, or in any of our administrative departments. The only men left are ones that have been here since 1978 and are our senior managers, VPs and CEOs. and they're all expected to retire in 3-5 years.


#68

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Completely understand Adam, at the bank branch I'm currently working at, the last male (was a teller) recently quit and moved to another job. When I started here there were 3 males and 15 females. With each male that left, they were replaced by a female. This last one, is also being replaced the same way. In about a month there will be 18 females working in this branch, zero men. At most of our branches it's the same way too. At least 90% of the entire staff are women. With the exception of the VPs and CEOs as you said, where it's backwards and the female only make up about 10% of that area.


#69

Dave

Dave

So women can work there but men still own everything? Suh-WEET!

edit: This post was made to be a bit over the top so that I could ensure that someone would answer and I could test the edit issue. ;)


#70

Adam

Adammon

I will say though that men are treated like gold by the women in those branches. I don't know what it is about an all female work environment but it doesn't seem conducive to long term harmony amongst the group. Throw a no-nonsense, no-drama guy in there (Or even a similar female who can withstand the inevitable "She's a bitch, she's a snob" barbs) and amazing things can happen. In a company of 270 people, 43 are men, 8 of which are in IT alone.


#71

PatrThom

PatrThom

People tend to prefer a female as the 'face' of a company/service. Star Trek's computer, Siri, telephone operators, etc. No love for the guys. Likewise for ticket windows, bank tellers, customer service reps.

--Patrick


#72

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I can completely understand that view Pat, however, our entire Quality Control department are women, the entire Book-Keeping staff are women, the foreign exchange department has one male out of 20 and all these departments never see/speak to customers. Much like Adam says, the majority of the entire company are women.


#73



makare

I always figured the computer was a chick because an omnipresent dude voice could get creepy quick. Not really but it would be funny to make it creepy hehe.

Computer? .. yesssss captain, nice pajamas.


#74

strawman

strawman

makare said:
Computer? .. yesssss captain, nice pajamas.
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#75

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Shegokigo said:
I'm quite amused by this ressurection. Almost as amused as I was by Alien Ressurection. Thank you, for the amusement.
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So, not very?


#76



Biannoshufu

eww said:
Thanks for playing, enjoy our lovely parting gifts: a swift boot to the ass and an all expense paid trip to loserville!!!
-Espy
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I never got to see the original post, man....you suck Espy. /toddlertantrum.


#77

Gusto

Gusto

If you really want, it's quoted like 2 posts later.


#78

LittleSin

LittleSin

Biannoshufu said:
I never got to see the original post, man....you suck Espy. /toddlertantrum.
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I also missed it. I was so curious!
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Gusto said:
If you really want, it's quoted like 2 posts later.
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Wait..that's all he said?

LAME.


#79



Biannoshufu

Gusto said:
If you really want, it's quoted like 2 posts later.
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what and miss my chance to tantrum? Are you NEW to the Internet?


#80

Jay

Jay

Goddamned traffic made me miss some drama. Was it chauvinistic? Like, go to the kitchen an' make me a sammich woman? Or was it like.... (nsfw)

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Anyways, nothing beats a woman in a power suit and high heels. ^.^


#81

Espy

Espy

LOL, nah, it was just stupid. In case he decided to hang around though I figured I'd let him/her know just how welcome that kind of stuff is by the mod-community. :)


#82

Fun Size

Fun Size

Espy said:
LOL, nah, it was just stupid. In case he decided to hang around though I figured I'd let him/her know just how welcome that kind of stuff is by the mod-community. :)
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"Mod-community"? It seems like there is a more appropriate word for a group of mods. Mod gang? No, that's not it. Mod team? Nah. Mod pod? Not that one either.

Dammit, I can almost put my finger on it...


#83

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

A murder of mods.


#84

PatrThom

PatrThom

A banned of mods?

--Patrick


#85

Adam

Adammon

Mod Squad


#86

Fun Size

Fun Size

That's it!

Except instead of Linc, we have Canadians!

"You guys stay here. I'll handle this one. These are my people, eh."


#87

Necronic

Necronic

I think the most damning factor about men represented in that walking abortion of an article is the fact that it was written by one. The only evidence given in the article for anything is :

1) More older dudes play video games than younger dudes. Which could easily be countered by the fact that more women are playing video games than before. Maybe women are doing worse!

2) The Hanna Rosin article, which.....I haven't made up my mind about it.

Basically this dude just repeats the hanna rosin thing. WHOOPEEE.

Also men are better than women because.

BECAUSE.


#88

Fun Size

Fun Size

BECAUUUSE...BECAUSE OF THE WONDERFUL THINGS HE DOES. BADUMB, BADUMPADA BUMP, BUMP!

Wait, what are we talking about again? I became Judy Garland for a moment there.


#89

Necronic

Necronic

I'm going to retract my comment, more or less, but I still disagree with the conclusions of the article and the general tone being set in here.

Any comparison to "the good old days when men were men" is facile. Men actually have it much harder today than they did before. There is more competition for jobs thanks to Civil Right's movement (which I totally am cool with by the way". Just being a white married man is not enough to get a high paying job. You need a college education, and you need it in the right field. Ward Cleaver majored in Philosophy, for instance. In todays world that would mean that Beaver would be lucky to have a christmas at all.

Blue Collar, the 50s alternative job for men, is another name for unemployed these days. When people talk about the increasing unemployment for men it is almost entirely attributed to the recession's accute impact on and the general decline of the blue collar workforce.

So what about the idea that women are getting more degrees than men? This may be true, but lets break it down a bit because, as the 99% are finding out, not all degrees are created equal.

The single best college degrees out there are in engineering. And women only account for 20% of those degree seekers. This number is slowly growing but by the time it becomes significant the american economy will already have exploded.

In the pure natural sciences they are doing better, but you are still only seeing 30% or so, not exactly a dominance. And, interestingly, most are in biological or social/psychological sciences, which (sorry to offend anyone here with one of those degrees) are not particularly valuable without a graduate degree.

What about computers, another strong field? Well, this is by far the worst, with only 15% of graduates being women.

So there you have three of the best degrees out there for hirability, salary, and job stability, and women are a laughably small proportion of it.

There are also other sides to this of course. Two other incredibly valuable degrees, medicine and law, are equally represented by both men and women, and nursing, one of the best careers out there for pay/job stability, is so insanely dominated by women (94.6%) that the idea of a male nurse is still kind of funny. But that's mainly because it makes me think of Meet the Parents.

This isn't meant to be a dig at women, it's meant to be looking at the real picture. A picture where men are still dominating the technical fields, a picture where, without men, the fields that keep america running would crash and burn.

So, even if you figure out a way to procreate without us, you still need us for science/math. Unless you can, as a gender, man up and learn to do it yourselves.


#90

BananaHands

BananaHands



#91

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

The Founding Fathers believed, and the evidence still shows, that industriousness, marriage and religion are a very important basis for male empowerment and achievement.
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Yeah sure, that is why they all married for money, except Franklin... who did not marry.


#92

fade

fade

Ned Flanders: I wish we lived in a place more like the America of yesteryear that only exists in the brains of us Republicans.


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