WTF Wisconsin? (Formerly Walker convo thread)

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Krisken

Krisken

As a progressive, I hate the "Well they did it too" argument. It always makes fixing the problem later on much, much harder. Campaign finance is a perfect example of this.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

He needs a few thousand more signatures before Friday, apparently, or he won't be on the ballot (and Walker won't have to run in a primary).
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

I had a thought strike me as I read about the "fake Democrats" and the "fake Republicans" in the lovely recall elections here in Wisconsin:

Wouldn't it be just crazy if, in one of the legislative recall elections, if a "fake Democrat" and a "fake Republican" won their respective primaries?
 
Krisken

Krisken

What's really sad is the very real possibility the guy will win and still be our governor even after all of this. I can't decide if it's a failure on our parts or those who support his horrible policies and questionable tactics.
 
Krisken

Krisken

I was watching The Daily Show on Hulu and a pro Scott Walker ad came on with him talking about how he put a billion dollars towards healthcare (what they don't say is this is because they had to cover all the money they lost by being total dickbags to Planned Parenthood and other programs and lost their Federal funding in by not meeting requirements), and it struck me that when he talks he sounds like Kevin from The Office.

I couldn't stop laughing, and now I know whenever I see him talk I'm going to burst out into laughter. I have to wonder if we are turning into a more conservative state because we elected someone with Walker's credentials or a more progressive state because we elected someone who sounds like he rode the short bus.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

What I want Barrett to do, should he manage to win the primary, is take EVERY STINKING SINGLE "MILWAUKEE SUCKS AND BARRETT IS WHY" ad that Walker, Koch and company throw out there and put the words "MILWAUKEE COUNTY EXECUTIVE SCOTT WALKER" in Barrett's place.

And yes, I could see Steve Carrell play the lead in "WALKER - THE MUSICAL". Tina Fey could play Becky Kleefisch (and it wouldn't be much of a stretch).
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

AP is projecting Barrett as the winner of the Democratic primary. Falk apparently didn't do very well in her home county of Dane.

Interesting bit: Mr. Kohl-Briggs got more votes in the Republican primary than Gladys Huber (the "fake" Democrat) did in Democratic primary.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

So. After a year and a half of hand-wringing, protesting, canvassing, signature collecting and balloting, what do we get?

A repeat of the 2010 Gubernatorial Election.

Tom Barrett, the mayor of Milwaukee, won the Democratic Primary in the Recall election for Wisconsin state Governor.

Some observations:
  • As noted above, Arthur Kohl-Riggs (the "fake Republican" and noted video web journalist) received 19,920 votes - which was more than four times what Gladys Huber (the "fake Democrat" put up to run against Barrett, Falk, Vinehout and LaFollette) received. Huber got 4,842 votes - about 1% of the total votes in the Democratic primary.
  • Somewhat disconcerting is how well the "fake Democrat" did in the Lieutenant Governor primary. Isaac Weix received 26% of the vote (197,052), which did not derail Mahlon Mitchell's victory (he got 52% of the vote for the Lt.Gov office), but did beat out the only other "real" Democrat in the race, Ira Robins (22% of the vote, 165,074).
  • Not including Mr. Kohl-Riggs or Gladys Huber's votes, the margin of total votes for Governor on the Democratic side (665,436) were greater than on the GOP side (626,538). What the Wisconsin Dems are going to have to try to do is not lose their base between now and the Recall election day.
 
Bowielee

Bowielee

So, I recently drove the length of the state... Literally, I went from the Minnesota border to the Illinois border, and I have to say, the signs I saw were probably 50/50 support and recall, so I don't know how this will all turn out.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

He's got the "divide" part down right.

Bowielee, if he wins the election, I might be joining you on I-94 out of the state.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

The Democratic Party of Marathon County, Wisconsin, has some issues.

Currently, the Dems "campaign office" is on the site of what used to be an old thrift shop and resale store in downtown Wausau. That's not a bad thing - both parties use short-term leases in empty office/storefronts as campaign HQ's.

It's just that the place is right next door to an alternative record shop. Now, that's not as bad as it sounds - I think pretty much every downtown area has at least one of these, especially if the area has a somewhat Bohemian bent to it, which Wausau does. However, right next to that is a bookstore.

An adult bookstore. "Lovers Playground". :facepalm:

At least their "permanent" location is over at the Labor Temple on the other side of the river - which is pretty much where you'd expect them to have an office.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

Seen on the way to a Memorial Day picnic this year:

"WE NEED A NEW GOVERNOR"
"YOU STAND FOR JOHN DOE?"
"FIRE THE LIAR - RECALL WALKER"

I'd love to see the Lt. Governor version of that last one:
"DITCH THE *ITCH - RECALL KLEEFISCH"
 
Krisken

Krisken

jwhouk said:
Seen on the way to a Memorial Day picnic this year:

"WE NEED A NEW GOVERNOR"
"YOU STAND FOR JOHN DOE?"
"FIRE THE LIAR - RECALL WALKER"

I'd love to see the Lt. Governor version of that last one:
"DITCH THE *ITCH - RECALL KLEEFISCH"
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You know, I haven't seen a single Kleefisch sign. Not a one.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

Meanwhile I've seen a TON of Mitchell signs.

Boy, that would be INCREDIBLY embarassing, if Walker held on to the Gov's office, but Sarah Pali... er, I mean, Rebecca Kleefisch, was voted out in favor of Mahlon.

And Krisken: I haven't been through my old neck of the woods (Waukesha County) lately, so I dunno if anyone put up any Kleefisch signs on I-94 between Oconomowoc and Brookfield Square...
 
Krisken

Krisken

jwhouk said:
Meanwhile I've seen a TON of Mitchell signs.

Boy, that would be INCREDIBLY embarassing, if Walker held on to the Gov's office, but Sarah Pali... er, I mean, Rebecca Kleefisch, was voted out in favor of Mahlon.

And Krisken: I haven't been through my old neck of the woods (Waukesha County) lately, so I dunno if anyone put up any Kleefisch signs on I-94 between Oconomowoc and Brookfield Square...
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Actually, that's what I think will happen, though it appears that Barrett is gaining a little steam (he'll never be able to catch up to the money though). If nothing else, Wisconsin's dislike for Kleefisch just might swing the election to Barrett.

I haven't been that way lately either. I'm sure there's a couple, but it's hard to imagine a lot of them.
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

I remember back in '10 that she had a few down there, one by Buck Rub Archery and another closer to Oconomowoc.

I have been heartened in the increase in Barrett/Mitchell signage over the last week or so. If anything, it's a better thing than those ugly "We Stand With Walker" signs in that Tahoma-ripoff font.

Which reminds me - does anyone have an idea what exactly that ugly-ass font IS that Walker Inc. is using?
 
jwhouk

jwhouk

The race, it has closed to within a tenth of a percentage point.

Buckle up, Wisconsin. It's gonna be a bumpy night.

Current odds:
  • There will be at least two or three reports of voters being either turned away because of lack of ID - or other voter fraud: 3 to 1.
  • Kathy Nicklaus will screw up the vote totals from Waukesha County somehow: NO LINE
  • A recount will be requested for the recall: 3 to 2.
  • There will be a lawsuit or five filed against the results: 10 to 1.
  • Scott Walker will not accept the results of a recall loss: 7.5 to 1.
  • Barrett wins the gubernatorial recall but Kleefisch wins the Lt. Gov. recall: 5 to 2.
  • Walker holds on to his job but Mahlon Mitchell wins the Lt. Gov recall: 4 to 1.
  • Walker is indicted on the John Doe investigation the day after the recall (if he loses): 3 to 1.
  • Walker is indicted on the John Doe investigation the day after the recall (if he wins): 100 to 1.
 
Krisken

Krisken

jwhouk said:
The race, it has closed to within a tenth of a percentage point.

Buckle up, Wisconsin. It's gonna be a bumpy night.

Current odds:
  • There will be at least two or three reports of voters being either turned away because of lack of ID - or other voter fraud: 3 to 1.
  • Kathy Nicklaus will screw up the vote totals from Waukesha County somehow: NO LINE
  • A recount will be requested for the recall: 3 to 2.
  • There will be a lawsuit or five filed against the results: 10 to 1.
  • Scott Walker will not accept the results of a recall loss: 7.5 to 1.
  • Barrett wins the gubernatorial recall but Kleefisch wins the Lt. Gov. recall: 5 to 2.
  • Walker holds on to his job but Mahlon Mitchell wins the Lt. Gov recall: 4 to 1.
  • Walker is indicted on the John Doe investigation the day after the recall (if he loses): 3 to 1.
  • Walker is indicted on the John Doe investigation the day after the recall (if he loses): 100 to 1.
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The indictment would be higher as it has been indicated that if he was to be indicted in the John Doe case they would wait till 2 months after the election to avoid any implication of partisan motives.

Totally love the odds chart though :D
 
Gared

Gared

Can I get a link to a local news website for Wisconsin that's going to be running live election count results? I'd like to find out how screwed you guys (and my parents) are before Wednesday morning.
 
Krisken

Krisken

Mayer Barrett's campaign has confirmed people are receiving phone calls telling them they don't have to vote Tuesday if they signed the recall petition, that it would count as a vote. I'm continuously disgusted by people.


Edit: Now confirmed by me personally. My wife got this call earlier today.
 
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