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Your favorite best twist ending ever?

Oct 7, 2009#1

JCM

I was watching Soylent green again today (while introducing it to some students) and remembered the first time I watched it and discovered the twist reveal... so Im getting together a nice list of flicks and books with a damn good twist ending.

Just to toss in my faves-

Night of the Living Dead

The last survivor, just as it seems he will be rescued by soldiers, is mistaken for a zombie and shot.

Saw

My ex screamed when the old guy got up. I left the cinema straight to watch it a second time, now with the knowledge that that body was actually a sicko enjoying the show.

Pearl Jam's Alive, Once and Footsteps.

Three songs that seemed unrelated, until one day Vader sang them in order, suddenly it was there. Kid grows up, looks like his young dead father more and more, mother has sex with him, he runs away, goes crazy and violent until he ends up killing someone, then as he's walking to the electric chair, he sees her again.

Arachronox

Best american japanese-rpg, you kill the main villain. Then your most overpowered party member suddenly transforms, and guess what? He is the main villain. Then I loved the intelligence of the Evil disguising as a crazed old man, and hiring your character to find the tools for him to conquer the Universe. Oh, and making you, the player, level him up to an almost unbeatable level

.

Anne Rice's Blackwood farm

Not only was I surprised to have her write a good book after countless tripe post-Memnoch, but I had all but forgotten Mona in the hospital when she appeared in Quinn's room, dying, and was offered o be turned into a vampire.

Super Mario Bros 2

It was all a plumber's dream.

So, any good flicks, series, books or songs to add to the list?

Oct 7, 2009#2

ElJuski

Vedder, not Vader, brah!

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Also, I loved the ending of Life of Pi. The realization is awesome.

The end of the first episode of Mad Men.

Fight Club of course.

There's a bunch more, but my brain is kind of fried at the moment from a long day.

Oct 8, 2009#3

JCM

Just remembered one great one-

The Others

The woman and kids who are being disturbed by many ghosts arent being haunted, but are ghosts, and are haunting the people who they thought were ghosts disturbing them.

Oct 8, 2009#4

RealBigNuke

It'd be pretty interesting to hear Vader singing Pearl Jam, heh.

The Lottery. I mean, it's a classic.

Bioshock.

I know, it's not super original, but the presentation and the way it makes you feel bad for playing the game you were supposed to play it really hit the spot. I never questioned atlas's story the entire game, and felt like a tool for it.

Knights of the Old Republic

Holy shit! *I'm* Revan!

Um, I don't watch too many movies, mostly just books and video games. I'll try and think of some more from those.

Edit: Duh, how could I forget:

Planescape: Torment

You have been your own antagonist the entire game. As well as the mysterious guy helping you out. You were supposed to end the game in the first room, but you forgot that so you had to do the whole adventure over again. At the climax you get to kill yourself and go to hell, which is exactly what you created this entire mess to avoid doing. Oh, and it turns out the love interest's personal torment was knowing you're doomed and she can't follow you to hell but loving you anyway. What a great game!

Oct 8, 2009#5

Philosopher B.

Shit, yo, I wanna come to your class ... Soylent Green is my third favorite movie of all time.

As for other good twist ending movies, I dunno ... The Prestige, maybe.

Oct 8, 2009#6

Rob King

It was impossible for me to not have Soylent Green's ending spoiled. But it was a great ride, nonetheless. And I'm sure it was quite the shock for those who didn't know.

Oct 8, 2009#7

figmentPez

Zeno Clash

Father-Mother isn't a father or a mother at all, but has been stealing all his "children". Oh, and the whole world is a mystery as well, not fully revealed buy only hinted at.

Actually, it's hard to call this a twist ending since the twist is slowly revealed throughout the game if you catch the clues, but it's still a fantastic trip.

Oct 8, 2009#8

Shegokigo

Excellent EXCELLENT choice Figment! Loved that game.

Oct 8, 2009#9

AshburnerX

Silent Hill 2

James killed his own wife 3 weeks ago, instead of her dying 2 years ago. The reasons vary depending on the ending you get, but the actual foreshadowing for it was just subtle enough that I didn't see it coming.

Oct 8, 2009#10

Shegokigo

FFX (I know people hate this game, but I really did like X and X-2)

Tidus was a dream and the Yuna having to sacrafice herself, Jecht being Sin, parts really shocked me

FFIV

Golbez being Cecil's brother

Oct 8, 2009#11

CynicismKills

Agreed on the FFX/4 stuff, Shego, as well as

Auron's reveal that he's dead, and his fading away after Sin's death

Also, Sixth Sense, back when people didn't know M. Night would put a twist on every movie he made.

Edit: Dunno if this is a twist, really, but playing through Tales of Vesperia again

Watching your main protagonist straight up murdering badguys and not even caring. It's more of a twist as the character archetype you NORMALLY play in an RPG is a side character (main character's childhood friend) you never actually use (unless you get the upcoming ps3 re-issue)

Oct 8, 2009#12

AshburnerX

Some stuff on FFX:

I don't know about the Jecht is Sin thing... it seemed pretty obvious who Sin was the second Yunalesca tells you someone needs to die in order to create an Aeon. Of course, they didn't foreshadow that point AT ALL, so there was no time for it build. It just kinda felt like a slap in the face.

Oct 8, 2009#13

Shegokigo

Seriously, FFX had some great story telling, people just couldn't get over the "feel" of the game's style to give a chance.

Oct 8, 2009#14

CynicismKills

Shegokigo said:
Seriously, FFX had some great story telling, people just couldn't get over the "feel" of the game's style to give a chance.

Oct 8, 2009#15

Nile

Oddly enough, Tenpenny Tower in Fallout 3.

The 'peaceful' ending. Making peace between the ghouls and the humans, convincing everyone that the ghouls are peaceful and that they can live in harmony... then coming back two weeks later, and finding all the humans' corpses in the basement. Actually felt like a punch to the gut.

Most of my favorites have already been mentioned, so yeah.

Oct 8, 2009#16

Shegokigo

Wow Nile, definitely a nice choice. That was awesome.

Oct 8, 2009#17

RealBigNuke

There aren't too many endings that result in my shouting profanities and going on a shotgun-to-the-face rampage. That counts as a good twist in my book.

I liked FFX. I liked the nautical theme and even most of the characters besides Tidus. Also had fun cinematics.

Although

Is it even a frickin' spoiler to say that the big catholic kinda church in the JRPG is actually evil? The whole 'you're a dream!' thing was the only real twist, just about everything else was 'kind of' cliche.

Oct 8, 2009#18

CynicismKills

Dead Space.

Hah fuck you mutant dudes I'm getting the hell out of hSHIT

Oct 8, 2009#19

Shegokigo

Cliche? Sure.

Punch in the gut cause you didn't see it coming in this particular game? Definitely

Oct 8, 2009#20

Heavan

I know the twist here isn't at the end, more the middle, but god damn, Ace Combat 5 man. Ace Combat 5. I'd post it but I don't remember enough of the specific details to accurately explain how much it floored me.

This twist and the missions beyond it were what made this game one of my favorites.

Oct 8, 2009#21

Nile

Yeah... Every other quest in Fallout 3 kind of pales in comparison.

Also going to throw Second Sight in. Looking back at the game, I should have seen it coming, but realizing

that you aren't having flashbacks, but actually seeing a possible future

was unexpected.

...And Shadow of the Colossus.

Start the game thinking you're doing something noble in order to save someone's life... and then realizing you're knowingly unleashing a demon on the world. Then the demon stealing your body, causing the people you were led to believe were evil to actually save the world by destroying you.

Oct 8, 2009#22

Math242

Memento !

Oct 8, 2009#23

V.Bond

The end of Se7en.

That one was pulled off just right.

Oct 8, 2009#24

Wahad

Morrowind: Tribunal

So you finally reach Sotha Sil's hangout in Clockwork city. He's dead. Well, shit happens, so you turn around but wait! It's Almalexia! Hey, she's wearing some kind of weird mask. Uh, this isn't what it looks like? I didn't...what? You killed Sil? You were behind the attack on Mournhold? To gain control over the citizens? Hey wait don't attack me!

Welll, this is a compromising situation. Two of the Tribunal dead, and one by my hands! Guess I'd better get out here fast. Oh, hey Azura. Yeah, I figured she was mad. What? Fulfilling the Nerevarine Prophecies, what do you mean? oooh, the death of ALMSIVI. Sooo I gotta go kill Vivec now? Uhm, okay

Oct 8, 2009#25

SeraRelm

Watchmen

Need I even say it?

Fatal Frame 2 (canonical ending)

Actually killing her own sister and losing her.

Oct 8, 2009#26

GeneralOrder24

RealBigNuke said:
It'd be pretty interesting to hear Vader singing Pearl Jam, heh.

Elderly Watto behind the counter in a small town?

RealBigNuke said:
Bioshock.

I know, it's not super original, but the presentation and the way it makes you feel bad for playing the game you were supposed to play it really hit the spot. I never questioned atlas's story the entire game, and felt like a tool for it.

Knights of the Old Republic

Holy shit! *I'm* Revan!

These. I usually hate twists, but these I enjoyed.

Oct 8, 2009#27

rvdleun

Planescape: Torment.

The Transcendent One doesn't have your immortality... he IS your immortality.

I was near the end, had so many questions left and thought that I had missed out on tons of content(for the record, I actually missed Dak'kon on my first playthrough)... and then they drop that bombshell, tying up every loose end.

Oct 8, 2009#28

RealBigNuke

rvdleun said:
Planescape: Torment.

My friends don't bring up that game around me any more, because if they do, I will gush about it for hours.

Oct 8, 2009#29

AshburnerX

Heavan said:
I know the twist here isn't at the end, more the middle, but god damn, Ace Combat 5 man. Ace Combat 5. I'd post it but I don't remember enough of the specific details to accurately explain how much it floored me.

This twist and the missions beyond it were what made this game one of my favorites.

Oh, you mean when...

You find out that you handed the President over to the very people who were trying to capture him? Weeks after the fact? And that their objective is the destruction of both OSEA and Yuktobonia for kicking the ass of the Belka during the Belkan War, resulting in a West/East Germany situtation?

Or how they try to kill you later on when your about to win the war, which results in you having to escape from OSEA, where you team up with other traitors in order to expose the truth?

Or how your fighter squadron may or may not be the metaphorical re-incarnation of a fairy tale demon who brings peace to the world by kicking the shit out of anyone who disagrees?

Yeah, Ace Combat 5 is my favorite of the series. I still play it to this day (mainly because I'm trying to fucking grind for the X-02). That game had some really cool scenes and some fun boss fights. Ace Combat Zero is fun too though, as it at least had multiple endings.

Fun Fact: The song that is sung over the Radio when your defending the carrier near the end (and during the credits)? That's actually being song by the voice actor of Major Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. I was surprised she was so good.

Oct 8, 2009#30

twitchmoss

The prestige. holy crap that was an awesome ending.

angier duplicates himself every night, and kills his double! bordens trick really IS staring you right in the face.

The usual suspects

KEYSER SOZE! KEEYSER SOZE!

Oct 8, 2009#31

Rovewin

twitchmoss said:
The prestige. holy crap that was an awesome ending.

angier duplicates himself every night, and kills his double! bordens trick really IS staring you right in the face.

Somehow I saw that coming a mile away as soon as they showed the hats. What really got me was

That they were twin bothers who switched every other day! That is so messed up. :hump:

the one you love and then your brothers lover :Leyla:

Oct 8, 2009#32

LordRendar

Heavan said:
I know the twist here isn't at the end, more the middle, but god damn, Ace Combat 5 man. Ace Combat 5. I'd post it but I don't remember enough of the specific details to accurately explain how much it floored me.

This twist and the missions beyond it were what made this game one of my favorites.

It really is one of the best Ace Combat games out there.To this day I still love to load it up in my ps2 and play it.Loved bombing the shit of of EVERYTHING during missions,so that I could find the parst for the experimental Jet.

Oct 8, 2009#33

bhamv3

Agreed on the Prestige. A lot of people said they could see Borden's trick a mile away, but it surprised me for sure.

Also agreeing about Tenpenny Tower.

Fight Club surprised me as well.

Actually, my favorite would probably be Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening.

The island of Koholint is a dream by the Wind Fish, and waking the Wind Fish (the ultimate goal of the game) would make the island and its inhabitants disappear. This made me actually not want to finish the game, I'd grown too attached to all the characters I'd met in the game.

Oct 8, 2009#34

Cajungal

I liked the ending of Unbreakable. Looking back I should have seen it coming, but I'm glad I'm not good at figuring out twists.

Oct 8, 2009#35

JCM

CynicismKills;271438][quote=Shegokigo said:
Seriously, FFX had some great story telling, people just couldn't get over the "feel" of the game's style to give a chance.

Too many people were focused on Tidus being a total bitch (which is totally grown out of within a few hours of gameplay). I try to tell people you get past that and the story is totally worth it, but most just don't care. It's too bad.[/QUOTE]Also the English voice acting was terrible beyond belief.

Since we're in the subject of FF, how about FFVII

Everyone in your party had previously known each other in an orphanage.

Fight Club and The Sixth sense ae great, hopefully this being Brazil there is a chance many of my students havent watched one or the other.

Now a twist ending that I hated beyond death was Diablo

After a few hours of sending golems after Diablo (I kept a shitload of such scrolls) and heaing them get a few punches in and die, I was treated to Diablo getting punched, then bleeding.

Then the cinematic starts, your character takes a knife, and removes the jewel from his forehead, and Diablo reverts to the body of a young boy.

Then he shoves it in his own forehead, and you get a guy in a cloak saying "oh wait, now you are the arsehole you were trying to kill, buy our sequel, BWAHAhAhAhA!!"

The diablo cd is still out there on the top of some tree after I tossed it out.

Oct 8, 2009#36

bhamv3

I think you mean FF8 there, JCM, not FF7. And actually, I thought that particular plot point was unexpected, but not really a twist. A bigger twist ending in that game would be:

Squall, a SeeD himself, gave Edea the idea to start Garden and SeeDs, and she did, knowing full well they would fight and defeat her one day.

Oct 8, 2009#37

JCM

Forgot an extra I there....

the thing it was very well done, there were endless clues and people talking,diary entries about loosing memory, Cid telling its all anti-GF propaganda, then hey, you all grew together, some of the did recognize you, and the main badie sorceress was the "mother" to you and your entire party

I forgot Oldboy

After killing off the people who put you in jail for years, you discover you've been sleeping with not some hot woman, but your daughter. So you erase your memories so you an continue sleeping with her.

And The usual suspects

The story the crook with cerebral palsy was narrating (aka, the movie) about his heist is awesome, then the crook leaves, and the police notices that every name and thing has been pulled from something in his office, and it was all a lie, and the crook didnt even have cerebral palsy.

Damn, RealBigNuke, Bioshock's twist was one hell of a spooky one

Would you kindly

Oct 8, 2009#38

Iaculus

CynicismKills said:
Dead Space.

Hah fuck you mutant dudes I'm getting the hell out of hSHIT

You forgot the big one:

NICOLE IS DEAD.

They even spelled it out for you in the chapter titles!

Oct 8, 2009#39

Vytamindi

Math242 said:
Memento !

OH GOD DAMMIT

I was gonna post this... you meanie!!!

Oct 8, 2009#40

Cajungal

^Liked the riff of that movie.

Oct 8, 2009#41

Shegokigo

Metroid:

Oct 8, 2009#42

SeraRelm

Shegokigo said:
Metroid:

I'll be in my bunk.

Oct 8, 2009#43

Rob King

The Prestige got me too. Like others, I had an inkling about Borden's trick as soon as the hats happened, but the real twist/kicker was the reality of the other guy's trick.

Oct 8, 2009#44

Shegokigo

I'm gonna nominate Final Fantasy Tactics on the whole as well.

Oct 8, 2009#45

Cajungal

GREAT story.

Oct 8, 2009#46

Piotyr

I still like the Sixth Sense

He was dead the whole time! This was one I really didn't see coming at all, and then in repeated viewings it's fun to look for all the foreshadowings. M. Night Shyamalan has made a bunch of crappy "twist" movies, but this and Unbreakable for me are still by far the best.

Primal Fear

He was faking the whole time! This is my favorite Norton movie, and another twist I didn't see coming at all

The Game

It was all in fun after all! The scene where he shoots Sean Penn is still crazy intense, even though I've seen it dozens of times.

Oct 8, 2009#47

SeraRelm

Super Mario Brothers

Bitch was in the castle!

Oct 8, 2009#48

Shawn

Scream

There are actually two killers and one of them seems so obvious you are likely to dismiss him as a suspect. Specially when he's "killed".

The Ring

You can pass the curse on to someone else, but you can't stop Samara.

Drag Me to Hell

Christine is dragged to hell.

Oct 8, 2009#49

Shegokigo

Piotyr said:
The Game

It was all in fun after all! The scene where he shoots Sean Penn is still crazy intense, even though I've seen it dozens of times.

The Game

You lost

:slywink:

Oct 8, 2009#50

bhamv3

Shegokigo;271680][quote=Piotyr said:
The Game

It was all in fun after all! The scene where he shoots Sean Penn is still crazy intense, even though I've seen it dozens of times.

The Game

You lost

:slywink:[/QUOTE]

DAMMIT!

And yeah, The Game was great. My sister kept bugging me to watch it when it came out, and I didn't until years later.

Although this now reminds me of eXistenZ:

They were inside a game all along! And they might still be!

Oct 8, 2009#51

SeraRelm

There's one I'm surprised you missed, Shego.

Especially considering...

the fact that...

you've commented...

on it...

before.

And I responded...

with my own opinion...

on the subject.

That, being how much...

I didn't like the movie.

Oct 8, 2009#52

Shawn

Loved The Mist.

The ending was such a downer but it added so much to the film. Screw falling in love then dying of Leukemia. THAT's how you do a sad ending.

Oct 8, 2009#53

Shegokigo

Damnit Sera, you're completely right. That still stands as my favorite movie ending EVER. I don't own it yet cause I'm waiting to get my High Def system and buying it on Blu-Ray. Thank you for the reminder though!

Oct 8, 2009#54

drawn_inward

Life of Pi was one of the best book endings. I didn't see it coming. Great book!

Oct 8, 2009#55

Soliloquy

Man, most of the movies I've seen with twist endings had been spoiled for me ahead of time. Soylent Green,

it's people

The Maltese Falcon,

it's made of lead

Planet of the Apes

it's earth all along

The Sixth Sense

bruce willis is dead all along

One of the few movies I didn't know the twist ending to was Unbreakable. And though it was a bit obvious in retrospect, I really enjoyed the realization.

What I didn't enjoy was the complete lack of denouement. Heck, the movie would have been just fine ending where it did if they just took away the text at the end explaining what happened afterward.

Oct 8, 2009#56

figmentPez

rvdleun said:
Planescape: Torment.

The Transcendent One doesn't have your immortality... he IS your immortality.

You got it slightly wrong:

The Transcendent One is your mortality, not your immortality. It's a variation of the old fables of someone putting their death in a box/egg so that they can't be killed.

I loved the other twists in that game as well. How Ravel Puzzlewell was all these other characters along the way. How all your companions had been your companions before. All the betrayals, sometimes by your past selves.

And a non-spolier, non-twist for Planescape: Torment. When the new version of Splatterhouse was announced as in development Joystiq proclaimed it the first game where you get to use the characters own severed limbs as weapons.

In PS:T one of the weapons is Severed Arm (Yours). Sad to see such ignorance in a gaming blog.

Oct 8, 2009#57

Shegokigo

FFV

Galuf's Death. While it was cheapened by the fact he was immediately replaced, it came completely out of nowhere. Even though we saw ALOT of death in FFIV, I still wasn't "used" to main characters dying in an RPG

FFIX

The main character realizing he was an alien the whole time.

Favorite TV show twist is EASILY:

South Park: Chili Cookoff Episode. Spoiler totally not necessary, it was the best ending to a SP episode ever and remains my favorite to this day.

Oct 8, 2009#58

rvdleun

Another one: Braid.

How rewinding can completely change what a level is about... very neat twist

Oct 8, 2009#59

CynicismKills

Also in FF9:

ViVi discovering he was just a doll, and not a real person at all.

Oct 8, 2009#60

figmentPez

"A Night in the Lonesome October" by Roger Zelazny
I'm due for my yearly October reading, so I might be a little fuzzy on the specifics, but ...

The Good Doctor and his experiment turn out to not be one of the players at all, and then the whole climax is a series of one twist after another. The Count turns out to be a closer, players thought counted out show up after all, and it all ends with a pun.

Oct 8, 2009#61

blotsfan

The classic.

Rosebud was his sled

Oct 8, 2009#62

Shawn

High Tension

Main character has a split personality and is the killer. Meaning she somehow managed to get a rigged up, evil, villain truck out to the middle of nowhere despite never being there before. She also had a high speed car chase... with herself, and somehow could rip off people's limbs and do incredible feats of strength while being as thin as a twig. You know what? @#$% that ending. The twist completely ruined it.

Oct 8, 2009#63

ThatGrinningIdiot!

I don't have any favorite twist endings, but I enjoyed all the ones posted.

Oct 8, 2009#64

HCGLNS

Superbowl XLII

The Patriots lose!

Survivor Series 1997

Shawn Michaels wins!

My Cousine Vinny

Marissa Tomei wins an Oscar!

Oct 8, 2009#65

SeraRelm

huh... lost some posts it seems.

City of Angels

He gave up evrything to be with her and she died in a single day.

Oct 8, 2009#66

General Specific

SeraRelm said:
huh... lost some posts it seems.

Ok, good, I'm glad I'm not the only one to see that.

Oct 8, 2009#67

JCM

HCGLNS said:
Survivor Series 1997

Shawn Michaels wins!

Saw that coming a mile away

Oct 9, 2009#68

GeneralOrder24

rvdleun said:
Another one: Braid.

How rewinding can completely change what a level is about... very neat twist

That was, without a doubt, the most mind-blowing, expletive evoking, amazing thing I've ever seen in a video game. It's right up there with half-life 2's gravity gun and duke nukem 3d's strippers.

Oct 9, 2009#69

Terrik

Am I the only one that found the FF:Tactics story extremely convoluted?

Oct 9, 2009#70

Nile

Death Note: The Last Name.

I really, really prefer that L was the one that beat Light rather than Near. And it actually made sense how he won instead of "LIGHT SUCKS SUDDENLY!"

Oct 9, 2009#71

JCM

Damn, Time magazine has an article of the ten best Twilight Zone eps, the show that was King in twist endings.

Good to see my fave, "to serve man", is there.
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1927690_1927684,00.html

People after using the book "to serve man" and solving all society's ills, visit the aliens planet and discover that the word serve has two appilcable meanings, and become dinner.

Oct 9, 2009#72

bhamv3

That was originally based on a short story, wasn't it?

Oct 9, 2009#73

JCM

bhamv3 said:
That was originally based on a short story, wasn't it?

I didnt know that, but wiki credits it to the short story by Damon Knight.

Man, I've just ordered season one through Amazon, and am downloading the other seasons through torrent, damn I miss some good old Twilight Zone.

Oct 9, 2009#74

CynicismKills

Terrik said:
Am I the only one that found the FF:Tactics story extremely convoluted?

It definitely could be at times, but all in all it still stands as the game that's stolen more hours of my life than any other non-MMO.

Oct 9, 2009#75

Covar

Rob King said:
The Prestige got me too. Like others, I had an inkling about Borden's trick as soon as the hats happened, but the real twist/kicker was the reality of the other guy's trick.

I hated the Tesla Cloning machine, thought it was stupid, but the other reveal made up for everything. The signs are completely present throughout the entire movie, but I never saw it coming. Brilliant considering the whole part in the beginning about how the answer is usually stare you in the face, but you don't see it because you don't want to.

Oct 9, 2009#76

JCM

Covar;272144][quote=Rob King said:
The Prestige got me too. Like others, I had an inkling about Borden's trick as soon as the hats happened, but the real twist/kicker was the reality of the other guy's trick.

[/QUOTE]I kina liked it, because it made me remember my theory aboy Star Trek.

You go in the teleporter, you die. Yes, a copy of you is made, with your particles, and your memories up to when you entered, and doesnt even know you died, and will die also the second he teleports.

Oct 9, 2009#77

Covar

It was just very jarring from the rest of the movie, which was extremely grounded.

Oct 9, 2009#78

SeraRelm

Use spoiler tags, please.

Oct 9, 2009#79

JCM

Mine is just a personal theory on Star Trek, not realy a spoiler

Oct 9, 2009#80

Covar

JCM said:
Mine is just a personal theory on Star Trek, not realy a spoiler

Not a theory, there was an episode of Next Generation that resulted in two Rikers running around due to a transporter accident. (Riker was "beamed" off a planet but due to some kind of interference he was never dematerialized).

Oct 9, 2009#81

JCM

Covar;272181][quote=JCM said:
Mine is just a personal theory on Star Trek, not realy a spoiler

Do you mean "they actually die when they teleport, and a copy of them with their memories lives on" is already established in Star Trek?

Because with me it was just a drunken musing I made a decade back with my friend over why I would never teleport, after all, how do I know its really ME that will go out the other side, that I wont simply die, end my existence and my copy would live on to get drunk and muse some more.

Oct 9, 2009#82

SeraRelm

You're both giving away much of the movie's plot/twists.

---------- Post added at 01:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:03 PM ----------

Also, that musing has been made before about going to sleep. It's a lack of certainty of one's own existence based on breaks in one's stream of consciousness.

Oct 9, 2009#83

Covar

JCM;272185][quote=Covar;272181][quote=JCM said:
Mine is just a personal theory on Star Trek, not realy a spoiler

[/QUOTE]

Yes. The newly created Riker even showed up in an episode of DS9. Kind of makes you agree with Bones doesn't it?

Oct 9, 2009#84

SeraRelm

The Descent (not the butchered american ending, but the proper ending)

She escapes! She gets to her car! She's relieved! It was a dream, she wakes up down in the caves still, her mind shattered.

Oct 9, 2009#85

ThatNickGuy

SeraRelm said:
The Descent (not the butchered american ending, but the proper ending)

She escapes! She gets to her car! She's relieved! It was a dream, she wakes up down in the caves still, her mind shattered.

Hell yes! I thought it was a so-so movie until the end, where it's basically revealed that

she killed all her friends and the monsters never existed.

As far as my favourites?

Fallen. Nuff said and if you haven't seen it, then shame on you.
There was this episode of The Outer Limits. The setting was this big war between Earth and these other aliens. The whole episode takes place within the alien prison and the guy is a POW. Meets with this girl, who's also been captured. During the whole episode, the aliens drag her away, do experiements on her and bring her back, every time looking a little more like them. And then at the end,

he gives her hope by saying that there's a HUGE fleet of ships hidden behind a planet and they're ready to launch one big, final attack in a desperate attempt to win. Then the girl stands up, she knocks on the door and says soemthing like "You don't understand. They weren't changing me. They were changing me BACK.

Fuck, I loved that episode.

Oct 9, 2009#86

Rob King

ThatNickGuy said:
There was this episode of The Outer Limits. The setting was this big war between Earth and these other aliens. The whole episode takes place within the alien prison and the guy is a POW. Meets with this girl, who's also been captured. During the whole episode, the aliens drag her away, do experiements on her and bring her back, every time looking a little more like them. And then at the end,

he gives her hope by saying that there's a HUGE fleet of ships hidden behind a planet and they're ready to launch one big, final attack in a desperate attempt to win. Then the girl stands up, she knocks on the door and says soemthing like "You don't understand. They weren't changing me. They were changing me BACK.

Fuck, I loved that episode.

Shit, son! That's awesome!

Oct 9, 2009#87

ThatNickGuy

Hell yeah. If I could mimic that kind of moment in my own writing, I'd do it all the time.

Wish I could remember the name of the episode.

Oct 9, 2009#88

JCM

This pic

Oct 9, 2009#89

ThatNickGuy

LOL! Wow. It took me a minute or two to see what was going on.

I really, REALLY want to know the story behind that!

Oct 9, 2009#90

Bowielee

Secret Window

Johnny Depp is INSANE

And for original Twilight Zone episodes- The one with Agnes Moorhead with the little spacemen.

Turns out that the tiny aliens are actually humans and the woman in the cottage is a giant alien

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Oct 9, 2009#91

bhamv3

What the hell is going on in that photo??? Is it shopped?

Oct 9, 2009#92

Deschain

Oddly enough, Tenpenny Tower in Fallout 3.

Spoiler: The 'peaceful' ending. Making peace between the ghouls and the humans, convincing everyone that the ghouls are peaceful and that they can live in harmony... then coming back two weeks later, and finding all the humans' corpses in the basement. Actually felt like a punch to the gut.

Most of my favorites have already been mentioned, so yeah.

Twitch here put on his cowboy hat and duster, then proceeded to enact Wasteland Justice on the ghouls. Ask him about it sometimes.

As for me. Doom: Repercussions of Evil

And then John was a zombie.

Oct 10, 2009#93

Mutiny

Shawnacy said:
Drag Me to Hell

Christine is dragged to hell.

Er..

It wasn't obvious to everyone else that was going to happen? I mean, the final scene in the movie was in every commercial I'd ever seen for the film. I actually counted down in my head on the train platform, "Five seconds to bad twist ending, 5, 4, 3, 2, oops, I was a little slow."

Edited for bad quote cropping.

Oct 10, 2009#94

ThatNickGuy

Mutiny;272520][quote=Shawnacy said:
Drag Me to Hell

Christine is dragged to hell.

Er..

Edited for bad quote cropping.[/QUOTE]

^This. The ending was telegraphed about 35 minutes before it ended. If you were paying attention at all, you'd have recognized the foreshadowing long in advance.

Oct 10, 2009#95

Ravenpoe

Deschain said:
As for me. Doom: Repercussions of Evil

And then John was a zombie.

That's how Rambo should have ended.

Oct 10, 2009#96

@Li3n

Covar;272209][quote=JCM;272185][quote=Covar;272181][quote=JCM said:
Mine is just a personal theory on Star Trek, not realy a spoiler

Oct 10, 2009#97

JCM

Ooh, I remembered an awesome one... Agatha Christie´s The Murder Of Roger Ackroyd

It was the doctor, who was narraing the story

@Li3n;272604][quote=Covar;272209][quote=JCM;272185][quote=Covar;272181][quote=JCM said:
Mine is just a personal theory on Star Trek, not realy a spoiler

[/quote]

Yes. The newly created Riker even showed up in an episode of DS9. Kind of makes you agree with Bones doesn't it?[/QUOTE]

As i recall Riker did get dematerialized for a few seconds, but the beam bounced back or something...

Still, teleporters that work by breaking you down and reassembling you back at the destination are creepy, even if somehow they reassemble the same exact particles... you're still dead while in transport.[/QUOTE]But the question is, do you revive when you arrive, and a doppelganer in your body, with you memory, lives on?

Is Kirk condemned to kill himself everytime he says, "Scotty Beam me up", and have a carbon copy of him continue on, foolishly believing with those memories that he is Kirk, and later on, killing himself too?

Oct 10, 2009#98

@Li3n

That's a rather philosophical question one can't answer until we answer the one about what make you you...

Oct 10, 2009#99

AshburnerX

I remember there being a short cartoon once about a guy who builds a "teleporter" that actually worked by killing people in the start booth and making an exact copy in the End booth. One day he wonders about the philosophic questions of this and sets the machine to not kill him, so he could discuss it with himself. An hour passes and it's time for one of them to die... but they can't remember who was the original, so they end up fighting and one eventually tosses the other in the machine. This act of murder actually depresses him so much that he goes into the booth and teleports himself away, thus committing suicide, despite having a living copy in the receiving booth. I also remember it had a kinda funny song being sung by the guy as he commits suicide, saying how he'll be guilt free once he come sout the other end, as THAT one wouldn't have committed murder.

Oct 10, 2009#100

Cajungal

JCM said:
Ooh, I remembered an awesome one... Agatha Christie´s The Murder Of Roger Ackroyd

Man, I loved that ending! I remember renting that book in high school and thinking ...

Who's left who could have possibly done it? Well... the narrator, but that doesn't seem likely....

...then I finished the book and turned out to be right! I should read that again...

Oct 10, 2009#101

TwoBit

Cajungal;272744][quote=JCM said:
Ooh, I remembered an awesome one... Agatha Christie´s The Murder Of Roger Ackroyd

Man, I loved that ending! I remember renting that book in high school and thinking ...

Who's left who could have possibly done it? Well... the narrator, but that doesn't seem likely....

...then I finished the book and turned out to be right! I should read that again...[/QUOTE]

I read that book.

I remember after reading it thinking that now that Agatha Christie had made the friggin' narrator the murderer there was nowhere else for the "whodunit" genre to go.

Oct 10, 2009#102

figmentPez

"Death of a Foy" by Issac Asimov, actually not so much a twist as a pun. I love a lot of stories of this type, but this is one of the most complex, it's scifi, and it just works so well.

Give my big hearts to Maude, Dwayne. Dismember me for Harold's choir. Tell all the Foys on Sortibackenstrete that I will soon be there... :rofl:

Oct 11, 2009#103

Frankie Williamson

Shegokigo said:
Favorite TV show twist is EASILY:

South Park: Chili Cookoff Episode. Spoiler totally not necessary, it was the best ending to a SP episode ever and remains my favorite to this day.

So you liked the Titus Andronicus episode of South Park?

Oct 12, 2009#104

@Li3n

Shegokigo said:
South Park: Chili Cookoff Episode. Spoiler totally not necessary, it was the best ending to a SP episode ever and remains my favorite to this day.

It called Scott Tenorman Must Die! And you should have known that!

Oct 12, 2009#105

Shegokigo

Saying "Scott Tenorman Must Die" wasn't really going to remind people who'd have forgotten the title as fast as saying "Chili Cookoff". :rolleyes:

Oct 12, 2009#106

@Li3n

Really, coz it was the other way around for me... of course we don't get chilli over here...

Oct 12, 2009#107

Bergamot

I've said it before, but Kill Bill Vol. 1 had one of the best twist cliffhangers of all time

You've just watched what basically amounts to an almost-two-hour-long fight scene with virtually no dialogue and a straightforward, fairly boring, mostly linear plot. Her fiance and unborn daughter were killed, she was put in a coma, and now she's going to fly around and kill people for two movies. You're thinking "this is nothing like Pulp Fiction" and "I really have no interest in watching another movie full of this same shit" when suddenly, out of nowhere, as the closing credits are about to crawl, Bill says one line that completely changes your outlook and expectations for the sequel:

"One more thing, Sofie... is she aware her daughter is still alive?"

And with that, you realize that the second movie is going to be nothing like the first. There is going to be dialogue, and plot, and character development. At some point, she's going to have to make the choice of whether or not her revenge is worth killing her daughter's loving father figure, of whether there was truly anything worth getting revenge for in the first place.

Instead of dreading the second movie, you're counting down the days until it's released.

Now that is a motherfucking twist ending.

Oct 12, 2009#108

ThatNickGuy

Bergamot said:
I've said it before, but Kill Bill Vol. 1 had one of the best twist cliffhangers of all time

You've just watched what basically amounts to an almost-two-hour-long fight scene with virtually no dialogue and a straightforward, fairly boring, mostly linear plot. Her fiance and unborn daughter were killed, she was put in a coma, and now she's going to fly around and kill people for two movies. You're thinking "this is nothing like Pulp Fiction" and "I really have no interest in watching another movie full of this same shit" when suddenly, out of nowhere, as the closing credits are about to crawl, Bill says one line that completely changes your outlook and expectations for the sequel:

"One more thing, Sofie... is she aware her daughter is still alive?"

And with that, you realize that the second movie is going to be nothing like the first. There is going to be dialogue, and plot, and character development. At some point, she's going to have to make the choice of whether or not her revenge is worth killing her daughter's loving father figure, of whether there was truly anything worth getting revenge for in the first place.

Instead of dreading the second movie, you're counting down the days until it's released.

Now that is a motherfucking twist ending.

^This. And possibly why I liked Vol.2 more than I did 1.

Oct 13, 2009#109

The Lovely Boehner

Vol. 2 was a much better movie than 1. I'm not sure how I feel about it as a whole, I still haven't seen them back to back/together like intended

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