Star Trek Into Darkness... Spoilers Ahoy

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"Nemesis"? "Insurrection"? I've never heard of these.

And no matter how much you insist they exist, I still haven't heard of them.
 
This may be a bit Charlie of me, but I'm hoping he's not Khan, just because Khan's such an iconic non-white character (even if the actor's and character's ancestry did not match).

I love Cumberbatch as an actor, I think he's great, but the character of Khan ending up such a large part of Trek culture that it would seem a shame to not try and maintain that aspect of the character in the new franchise.
 
Dr. Elizabeth Dehner from the second pilot of TOS, "Where no Man Has Gone Before". Lending credence to the "Cumberbatch is Gary Mitchell" theory. That said, I don't think Godlike powers require massive weapons or starships to succeed.
I'm embarrassed that I did not recognize Sally Kellerman. Of course I only knew her as the Queen of the B's, when she was middle aged.
 

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Wow. It's like 1994 again, and I just got my first copy of photoshop... LENS FLARE LENS FLARE LENS FLARE

/remembers when Adobe Photoshop fit on 3 floppy disks
 
I never noticed the Lens Flare honestly didn't bother me one minute through the entire amazing movie.
I re-watched the movie recently and I have to admit, I didn't notice the lens flare either, even though in the back of my mind I knew it was there.
 
I do like how the new Star Fleet uniforms seem to be trench coats and scarves for everyone!

Admittedly, it's fairly true to all the TV shows, as I recall.
 
The new star fleet uniforms are only slightly different from the original series. I'm guessing from the context of the trailer and if we're going with the eugenics war and Kahn, then I'd assume that Kirk and co are infiltrating his group when they're wearing those outfits.
 
Japanese footage shows a bit of an iconic scene from the second movie. That's where the Khan theories come from mostly at this point.
 
Japanese footage shows a bit of an iconic scene from the second movie. That's where the Khan theories come from mostly at this point.
AintItCool has said that Jerry Goldsmith reused parts of the Khan theme for the 9 minute prologue. And the "Needs of the money quote" is repeated for the iconic scene as seen in the Japanese trailer.

This is all possibly just a fake out but at this point I'd be okay with a Khan, as long as it isn't the exact same story. Also, Prime Directive was brought up as a plot point which should appeal to those old school "Trek is about the philosophical discussion" yobs.
 

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The problem with the Mitchell theory is that he didn't want revenge, he just thought he was better than everyone else. I guess they could throw in some revenge-worthy tidbit.

I guess I'm a yob. I always thought of Trek of any generation (except 2009) as a ethics play thinly wrapped in a scifi veneer.
 
The problem with the Mitchell theory is that he didn't want revenge, he just thought he was better than everyone else. I guess they could throw in some revenge-worthy tidbit.

I guess I'm a yob. I always thought of Trek of any generation (except 2009) as a ethics play thinly wrapped in a scifi veneer.
That was a major complaint about Trek 2009, which I thought was valid. Especially as a fan of the more thinky-talky TNG era Star Trek, the situations were just a vehicle for more in depth discussion and less Star Warsy.
 
Everyone seems to be latching onto Khan, but have to remember this is a brand new timeline. Things don't have to happen the same way.

What if...

Because of the events that occur in the first movie, the Enterprise does not explore the section of space that drifted the Botany Bay? Maybe, another ship found it first, and when Khan's pod malfunctioned, the other crew was unable to save him like the Enterprise had done. The new villain may very well be an Augment formerly under Khan, still bitter of his "people" losing Earth hundreds of years ago and angry over Khan's death, took over the mantle himself when he and the others were awakened. He took over the ship from the Federation and returned to Earth, intent on taking it back or destroying it. In other words, we don't fight Khan, but still fight his legacy.
 
Yeah, I subscribe to the idea that there's still a khan-ish storyline in this universe that will appeal to khan fans while telling a different story.
 
While the fist is not actually the greatest thing in the world to hit with, your forearm is even worse. For one thing, there is a major nerve cluster right in the spot that he used to hit that guy...in the shoulder.

Watching old TV fights are hilarious.
 
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