It's not horrible. It doesn't hurt, there's no pain, it's just weird feeling as fuck and very uncomfortable.
And when it's over, you say "Holy shit, -that- much came out of my ear?"
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And when it's over, you say "Holy shit, -that- much came out of my ear?"
Whelp, it looks like Psy's american fame is over, since the country is now ready to shun him because of anti-american protest songs in his past.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/07/psy-anti-american-past-performances_n_2257949.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/07/psy-anti-american-past-performances_n_2257949.html
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If only we could. And not for their politics.
I have to say I'm a little shocked with the anti-US sentiment in South Korea. Since we make their high standard of living and freedom possible.
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GAWD, I HATE YOU MOM AND DAD, THIS IS THE 8GB IPOD I WANTED THE 16
It looks like his feelings towards the US turned sour after a couple of korean schoolgirls were killed when they were hit by a US military vehicle, and the soldiers involved never faced any kinds of charges.
And then, of course, that whole Iraq War thing, when pretty much no one, including Americans, liked the US government. Well, except for maybe Toby Keith.
And then, of course, that whole Iraq War thing, when pretty much no one, including Americans, liked the US government. Well, except for maybe Toby Keith.
I worked with Koreans on a day-to-day basis for over two years in China and it's not just anti-US sentiment, it's pretty much anti-anything that isn't Korean sentiment.
I don't agree with everything Bill O' says, but I wouldn't call him xenophobic. At least, not the xenophobia I'm familiar with.
Bill O'Reilly is flippantly dismissive, but not xenophobic, at least not in any way shown by this video. The psychiatrist he brought on to 'analyze' the video though seems a little out of touch. His basic claim is that if a music video in another language gains popularity among an audience that doesn't speak the language, it must be popular because the audience is seeking something without meaning. But artistic works carry the meaning that we reflect onto them. He must really wonder why that Picasso fellow got so popular, his portraits don't even look like real people!
Keith Ablow said that, not O'reilly.
There *might* be a teeny, tiny little point though. How many out of those near 1 billion people could understand the Korean lyrics? To most people the lyrics were indeed intelligible. My girlfriend speaks not a wit of English and listens to a lot of English music, mostly for the beat or rhythm or general sound of the song. When I saw the video, I too, got nothing from the lyrics. Maybe Korean speakers liked it for the lyrics, but a whole lot of other people liked it for other reasons.
I like foreign pop music specifically because I don't speak the language. I can enjoy fun music without having to listen to how dumb the lyrics are. But that doesn't mean the entirety of the song is without meaning, any more than saying a musical composition without words at all has no meaning.
I understood just as many lyrics from this song as I had from Smells Like Teen Spirit.
He's the one who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along and he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
Knows not what it means and I say yeah
GasBandit
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... That's "In Bloom," not Teen Spirit.
Teen Spirit is the one that goes
With the lights out, it's less dangerous
Here we are now, entertain us
Acting stupid and contagious
Here we are now, entertain us
Yeah
... and I feel so very, very, VERY old.
Really? I thought it was "It's the lifestyle, that sustains us."
Well I never claimed to be good with music.
All I know is, I fucking hate Nirvana.
I know it's from in bloom. The song was written after the popularity of Teen Spirit, and was talking about all the new fans they had that didn't know what the lyrics meant.
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Well, in all fairness, there's also disagreement as to whether it's "I feel stupid" or "Acting stupid."[DOUBLEPOST=1355418756][/DOUBLEPOST]
Ahh. I was not aware of that subtext to the song. Really, by that point I'd accepted that most Nirvana songs were just word salad.
Kurt Cobain did not know what the song was about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teen_Spirit_(deodorant)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teen_Spirit_(deodorant)
Ok, so it wasn't about teen spirit specifically, but the same message remains
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Despite being constantly accused of looking like him, I roll my eyes at Cobain's arbitrary hatred of popularity. Purposefully counter-aligning yourself is just as stupid as purposely crowd-following. Fuck the crowd altogether. That said, I kind of like the music, and they did open up the popular music world to a major genre shift.
I dunno about that Raven. Nirvana hadn't experienced much success, so them writing a song about "talking about all the new fans they had that didn't know what the lyrics meant" doesn't make a lot of sense. When you listen to Bleach, his lyrics didn't make much sense then, and that album didn't really see a lot of exposure until after Nevermind.
You're giving meaning to the lyrics that simply doesn't add up. I lived that era of music and it's a large influence on the music that I create, for better or for worse. Cobain had a knack for writing great melodies, but that didn't blow up until Butch Vig got a hold of them. Who knows what he really meant when he wrote In Bloom, but wide spread fandom not understanding the lyrics? Not so much.
You're giving meaning to the lyrics that simply doesn't add up. I lived that era of music and it's a large influence on the music that I create, for better or for worse. Cobain had a knack for writing great melodies, but that didn't blow up until Butch Vig got a hold of them. Who knows what he really meant when he wrote In Bloom, but wide spread fandom not understanding the lyrics? Not so much.
I grew up with the music too, but it has been awhile, so my memory is just a little hazy. The meaning I attributed to the song, at least to that specific chorus, was that of people singing to the music without knowing what it means. Whether that was a problem they faced at the time of writing, or simply a perceived or feared outcome is irrelevant, I still thought it fit the subject at hand.
And I do, after all, know what's up!
And I do, after all, know what's up!
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