E3 2013 - Official Thread

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That surprised me as well

I mean is there really enough people still buying new PS2 games to justify making it for the PS2. I find it especially interesting since they are not releasing it for the Wii U or the 3DS.

Given that it's Fifa, it's probably aimed at the overseas market, where there might be quite a few PS2s still in use.
 
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Given that it's Fifa, it's probably aimed at the overseas market, where there might be quite a few PS2s still in use.
Mine is still hooked up so I can play my PS2 games.
 
Wait. There's a new game coming to the PS2?
While games like MADDEN are huge in the states, FIFA is huge all over the world because Soccer is just a much more worldwide sport. In many of the countries where people would be buying FIFA, it's much more rare to find a PS3 over the now much cheaper PS2. EA knows this, thus why they are making sure they have a PS2 variation to sell and bring in that cash.
 
Quote about Capcom on Dead Rising 3:

Capcom is pointedly trying to appeal to a wider audience in this latest iteration, saying it's going after the Call of Duty player.
/fart noises
 
You know, I find the outcomes of E3 and the seeming dominance of Sony and the PS4 quite interesting. If we look to the past, at the beginning of the current console generation, the roles were reversed. Sony's offering was a bloated, expensive mess, including a technology that significantly raised the price of the console over the others. A technology (in this case, Blu-Ray) that not many people had yet to adapt or even wanted, in a time when HDTV's still had a minor presence among households. The winner of that war had seemed to be Microsoft. I say Microsoft and not Nintendo, because Nintendo opted for a different stategy, they didn't fight in that war. While MS and Sony were grappling for dominance of a specific arena, Nintendo was content to go somewhere else, and the newness of it made it an early favorite and propelled the Wii to a vast number of sales, whereas hardly anyone wanted to buy a PS4.

The first console of that generation that I purchased was a Wii. And it was fun, tons of hours flailing around in the living room. Eventually I got a 360 for the more 'core' gaming, and when I finally got an HDTV, I picked up a ps3 for the blu-ray. Today, I haven't touched my Wii in years (insert pun here) and it's damn rare that I ever turn on my xbox. The ps3, on the other hand, gets tons of use, for gaming, for blu-ray, for streaming media from my pc and netflix and all the stuff that Sony claimed people would want but the world wasn't quite yet ready for. So how does that hold up against this year's E3?

Microsoft feels a little too late in their embracing of media. The PS3 did this, and it turned out to be a winning move for the console, but it was a different time. I don't need an xbone to watch tv on, I've got a billion different devices that can stream different media to any goddamn screen in my house. Their forced technology this generation isn't as game-changing as Blu-Ray was. No one really cares for the kinect, and there's no real benefit to embracing it as a technology for advanced media beyond gaming (and no reason to embrace it for gaming, either). Sony, meanwhile, learned from all of their mistakes. They came out swinging with a battle plan that had been forged from a generation of war. Sony is as much a faceless corporation as Microsoft is, yet they've come to the conclusion that making gamers happy is their best business model, and they used this to great effect to downright humiliate Microsoft. They were the seeming underdog last generation, and managed to rise to dominance. Will they keep it this generation? It'll be interesting to see.
 

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/darth vader

DO NOT WANT!
Fixed that for you, old sport.

This looks like it has the potential to be a fun game, but really, did they need to plug the PvZ brand name onto it? Or is it just another generic shooter if it doesn't have peashooters and sunflowers?

Either way, I don't think I'll be getting this game.
 
I spoke with one of our guests who is staying with us for the expo. He says that he's with retail and he recently went into a meeting with Microsoft to discuss retails part in their whole... shitfest. However apparently not a damn thing was discussed regarding sales of used games. They just wasted the entire time showing them game trailers that they had all seen before. However there was one thing that he noticed: No representative from Gamestop. He's pretty convinced that Microsoft has already made a deal with Gamestop regarding the retail of used games. Except some huge mark-ups.
 
I spoke with one of our guests who is staying with us for the expo. He says that he's with retail and he recently went into a meeting with Microsoft to discuss retails part in their whole... shitfest. However apparently not a damn thing was discussed regarding sales of used games. They just wasted the entire time showing them game trailers that they had all seen before. However there was one thing that he noticed: No representative from Gamestop. He's pretty convinced that Microsoft has already made a deal with Gamestop regarding the retail of used games. Except some huge mark-ups.
This was my impression the second Gamestop didn't mount a PR campaign after the first press conference like Redbox did. I'm guessing Gamestop is going to be the ONLY US retailer that can let you sell Xbox One games, with GAME being the UK one. It's the only way it could happen without Microsoft having it's product tossed out of the store.

I wonder if this counts as a monopoly and will put Microsoft under federal investigation like it was in the late 90's/early 2000's regarding Internet Explorer.
 
This was my impression the second Gamestop didn't mount a PR campaign after the first press conference like Redbox did. I'm guessing Gamestop is going to be the ONLY US retailer that can let you sell Xbox One games, with GAME being the UK one. It's the only way it could happen without Microsoft having it's product tossed out of the store.

I wonder if this counts as a monopoly and will put Microsoft under federal investigation like it was in the late 90's/early 2000's regarding Internet Explorer.
I'm sure they will have a way to avoid this issue since technically they are only controlling the resale of Xbox games. Feel free to buy a PS4, a WiiU, or even (as the Microsoft Exec comments) a 360.
 
I'm sure they will have a way to avoid this issue since technically they are only controlling the resale of Xbox games. Feel free to buy a PS4, a WiiU, or even (as the Microsoft Exec comments) a 360.
There's going to be hell to pay if Gamestop is allowed exclusive access to the used games market. Best Buy and others are going to throw a shit fit.
 
There's going to be hell to pay if Gamestop is allowed exclusive access to the used games market. Best Buy and others are going to throw a shit fit.
Everyone is already throwing a shit fit over it. The company's intentions are clear. "We want more fucking money." But requiring registering your games to a specific account is not a new practice so I'm sure Microsoft has already gone over the legal requirements of such an endeavor. What does this mean for retail companies? Oh I'm sure they will have the ability to resell XboxOne titles, which will be probably completely dependent on if they have supplied Microsoft/The publisher with a fee. A fee that they are certainly going to pass on to the customers by jacking up prices. I think companies like Best Buy should instead focus on the other two consoles when it comes to used games.
 
the fuuuuuuuuuuuuck
I don't fucking know what the fuck I fucking just fucking saw.... what the hell is this?

Our "healer" class? Our "tank" class? Did we really need this?

Laaaaame.

Also, WTF is with the constant zooming back to the players playing the game?

No one, I repeat no one cares about the people playing the game... show me the GAME. You have 4-5 minutes tops, don't waste 30 seconds showing me this.
 
I like that exclusives/games list....Except that calling "Minecraft: XBone Edition" an XBone Exclusive is really pushing limits. it's Minecraft. if that's an exclusive, Fifa: PC Game edition is a "pc exclusive", Fifa: PS4 Edition is a "ps4 exclusive" and so on.

Also funny how the WiiU has the highest amount of "exclusives".
 
As much as I'm a Nintendo Fan, I question why Luigi Bros is an exclusive. Isn't it just a DLC for the last Mario Bros game for the system?
 
I feel like Sony and Microsoft had this big conference together and were all 'We should go in together on this, no used games - DRM, we can corner the market, get more money, both price at $499.' And Sony was all 'Sure, Microsoft *shifty eyes*, we'll totally do that. Yeah, together!' And then laughed from the sidelines to watch the storm roll in.
 
I feel like Sony and Microsoft had this big conference together and were all 'We should go in together on this, no used games - DRM, we can corner the market, get more money, both price at $499.' And Sony was all 'Sure, Microsoft *shifty eyes*, we'll totally do that. Yeah, together!' And then laughed from the sidelines to watch the storm roll in.
Sony to Microsoft

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It means they've got some explaining to do, but since they've suggested that its the same as the ps3, then chances are it means that digital games without media are tied to your account and can only be sold or traded if the publisher supports that, and that physical games with media can be traded and sold with impunity.

There still lies a grey area whee a physical game may come with a key or online component that gets tied to your account, which may mean the game cannot be fully traded or resold, but the publisher may provide just keys for a discount. This is not allowed on the first party titles, but third party publishers have more options.

So big titles with physical media will always be resell able. Digital titles will rarely be resell able. Some third party physical titles may have issues.
 
As much as I'm a Nintendo Fan, I question why Luigi Bros is an exclusive. Isn't it just a DLC for the last Mario Bros game for the system?
Yes, but they're also releasing a physical retail version in August. It's $30 instead of $20, comes in a green case, and does not require owning New Super Mario Bros. U to play. I guess that could count it as a stand-alone game as well.
 
Publishers have had the ability to enforce blocks on used games (one time use codes, attaching the game disc with the system it is first used on,etc) for ages now. EA has dabbled in this by making it so that certain games had to have a code to access online content. Now since Microsoft is enforcing new policies on used games some publishers may take it as a chance to enforce it on the PS3. But since they have had the ability to do this type of thing for awhile now I am hoping the publishers will avoid the temptation to start.
 
I wouldn't put it past Sony to change their mind later once they have a good chunk of the market share. They dropped backwards compatibility on the PS3 pretty quick, which was understandable so they could drop the price of the console, but also completely took away the ability for the PS3 to run other OS's through a firmware patch. Have they said if the capability to restrict used games is built into the PS4 and just not used?
 
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