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Huge week for gaming coming up, probably biggest in YEARS.

Feel free to post news, videos, discuss shit and tell me how awesome I am.

I can't wait to learn what consumer rights I'll lose!

They all die at the end.

Jay said:

Huge week for gaming coming up, probably biggest in YEARS.

Feel free to post news, videos, discuss shit and tell me how awesome I am.

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So you are going, I presume?

Dave said:

So you are going, I presume?

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I think he just really wants us to tell him how awesome he is.

Shawnacy said:

I think he just really wants us to tell him how awesome he is.

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I know. If only he wasn't French Canadian, we might be able to.

Thanks for making this thread, I'm gonna be at work all day and unable to follow everything I want to.

I'm already disappointed in the lack of news for a convention that hasn't officially started up yet. What kind of internet is this?

I can't follow anything but threads like this, so I rely heavily on it.

Looks like the xbox one will be $499 and available in November.

Also there's a new xbox 360.

I haven't paid attention to the games they announced. I watched a bit of the live feed, but I didn't care enough to keep track of it.

Sony's pre-event press conference isn't for a few hours still.

Good lord. Well, I guess all those folks predicting the cost of the system was going to be between $400 and $500 were technically right.

$499's not bad for a new console, really. There are phones out there that cost more.

Shawnacy said:

Good lord. Well, I guess all those folks predicting the cost of the system was going to be between $400 and $500 were technically right.

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Isn't that about normal MS and Sony prices for new consoles at launch?

At the 0:33 mark, "Just let it happen. It'll be over soon." Yes friends, a rape-like comment in the trash talk. The exact kind of phrase that women have heard while being raped.

And I made the mistake of pointing out exactly that. Now all the broboys are coming out to defend it by saying things like, "We say stuff like 'I just raped you, faggot' all the time!" That's not helping your argument, guys.

If Sony announces at 399, the battle's already won. My guess is they're probably 500 too.


Killer Instinct looks like crap. Killer Instinct has always been shit. That scripted trash talk is fucking awful. You know why Apple pressers are usually so impressive? They always come across as someone just talking. These ultra-scripted fakeathons are painful to watch.

I'll wait until the price comes down to them paying me. Nothing else would be worth it.

Anyways, I'm not impressed by the NEXT GENERATION of Microsoft moneyhatting around. I'm pretty ok to not console game anymore.

Once again, only gonna bother to watch the Nintendo conference, will pick up other tidbits from the news. I just love watching Miyamoto. >.>

Dei said:

Once again, only gonna bother to watch the Nintendo conference, will pick up other tidbits from the news. I just love watching Miyamoto. >.>

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They're not doing one this year. They're only doing one of their direct videos.

Unless sony completely drops the bag with thier stuff I will firmly stay in their camp. Their exclusives are the reason I still own a console at all. Got rid of the 360 two years back and haven't seen anything come out exclusively for it that I kick myself for not having one. Everything else I can get on pc, or on rare occasions, when a nintendo game inexplicably calls me back to it.

ThatNickGuy said:

At the 0:33 mark, "Just let it happen. It'll be over soon." Yes friends, a rape-like comment in the trash talk. The exact kind of phrase that women have heard while being raped.

And I made the mistake of pointing out exactly that. Now all the broboys are coming out to defend it by saying things like, "We say stuff like 'I just raped you, nice gay person' all the time!" That's not helping your argument, guys.

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Really, it was a toned-down version of what we've come to expect from people on Xbox Live. Microsoft is just being honest about the player base you'd be getting into.

Considering the lack of news in this thread, my guess is that jack and shit has happened today? Here's hoping Nintendo's video series tomorrow is better.

Sony panel? (not sure what they are calling them) isnt until later on today I think.

KI is being made by Double Helix, one of the worst devs out there right now. It looks like a Street Fighter IV mod.

Just watched the actual gameplay. Yeah, really just looks like they modded SFIV.[DOUBLEPOST=1370904552][/DOUBLEPOST]ahahahahahahaha

DAY 1

The special "Thief" keys made for our E3 guests at the hotel don't work.

Chilling foreshadowing of things to come?

Shawnacy said:

The special "Thief" keys made for our E3 guests at the hotel don't work.

Chilling foreshadowing of things to come?

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They were all secretly switched.

Saw Dead Rising 3. Xbox One exclusive, looks like they are going the Resident Evil route of making everything brown and super serious (when the humor was the entire charm of Dead Rising).

Seriously Capcom? I've had money set aside for a long time, but now I know I can spend it on something else. I'll just watch the game on Twitch or Youtube if your going to support Microsoft. I thought you learned your lesson when DR2 was multiplatform.

AshburnerX said:

Saw Dead Rising 3. Xbox One exclusive, looks like they are going the Resident Evil route of making everything brown and super serious (when the humor was the entire charm of Dead Rising).

Seriously Capcom? I've had money set aside for a long time, but now I know I can spend it on something else. I'll just watch the game on Twitch or Youtube if your going to support Microsoft. I thought you learned your lesson when DR2 was multiplatform.

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Perhaps they wanted to address the issue that occured when Dead Rising went on the wii/gamecube (whichever it was). There would be like one zombie on the screen at the time. I'm sure the Xbox, despite all it's other programed issues, will probably have some impressive graphics that will give Dead Rising the epic scale it needs.

Capcom has sucked for awhile now.

Shawnacy said:

Perhaps they wanted to address the issue that occured when Dead Rising went on the wii/gamecube (whichever it was). There would be like one zombie on the screen at the time. I'm sure the Xbox, despite all it's other programed issues, will probably have some impressive graphics that will give Dead Rising the epic scale it needs.

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The PS3 handled Dead Rising 2 perfectly fine though and so did PC. Apparently what happened is Microsoft let them go multiplatform with it by making them give Xbox exclusive DLC (Case Zero and Case West). So they aren't doing it this time because apparently it's cheaper.

I WANT THIS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW[DOUBLEPOST=1370914758][/DOUBLEPOST]BTW, best moment of EA was




Cloud gaming?

Reminds me of

All the -drool- worthy stuff there are most likely non-exclusive (Mirror's Edge 2 etc) and will be looking forward to the PC or possibly PS4 versions.

*OMFG*

Shawnacy said:

The special "Thief" keys made for our E3 guests at the hotel don't work.

Chilling foreshadowing of things to come?

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Just part of the Thief experience, obviously; the guests are supposed to pick the locks.

Jay said:

*OMFG*

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UPLAY: Achievement Unlocked - Closing a Door!

Dude, the little things go a long way. Having your guy automatically close a door while in cover while being shot at? Very cool.

The only issue I had was the PVP thing that happened at the end. I'm very... VERY apprehensive about survival games where PVP is involved.

We all know what happened with DayZ.

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Just part of the Thief experience, obviously; the guests are supposed to pick the locks.

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No, you blackjack the front desk clerk and grab the key from his unconscious body.

And possibly loot the register too.

Sony's conference is late...

I hope it's because they're putting the final touches on all their Powerpoint slides changing $499 to $399.[DOUBLEPOST=1370915730][/DOUBLEPOST]

Serious question, if Microsoft and Sony both price their new boxes at $499, what's the reaction if Valve announces a Steam Box at $399?

figmentPez said:

Serious question, if Microsoft and Sony both price their new boxes at $499, what's the reaction if Valve announces a Steam Box at $399?

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[DOUBLEPOST=1370916249][/DOUBLEPOST][DOUBLEPOST=1370916524][/DOUBLEPOST][DOUBLEPOST=1370916990][/DOUBLEPOST]Yawn... Another FF game. Zz....

Dude, FF vs. 13 - now renamed FF 15 - is supposed to be awesome. Its gameplay's supposed to be like Kingdom Hearts and is supposed to be everything that FF 13 was not.

Also, Kingdom Hearts 3 announced.

So many games, none of which I can run on my computer.

FF15
"Gameplay is like Kingdom Hearts" -Square-Enix

FF15, coming never. NEVER.

I'll believe the Last Guardian coming out before Vs 13.

Sony announces: PS4 will fully support used games. Disc-based games require no online authentication.

*insane cheers*

That's it. Sony wins. GG.

Sony wins.

Holy shit, the plus thing is awesome too.

Yeah, fuck you forever Microsoft.

They're turning versus XIII into XV? I guess that makes sense considering how much time they've dropped into it with nothing to show for years. And it sounded like it was going to be a better game than any of the proper FFXIII games.

I don't know; aside from Kingdom Hearts III (I swear if it's not the conclusion, if they tack on another bullshit to be continued ending--I'm out) or a real Final Fantasy Tactics game (not this mobile app crap), I'm kind of done with Squenix.

No used game restrictions. Sold.

Ravenpoe said:

Sony announces: PS4 will fully support used games. Disc-based games require no online authentication.

*insane cheers*

That's it. Sony wins. GG.

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Ever since the XBone announcement, this console war was Sony's to lose. Microsoft shot themselves in the foot this generation.

The shitty part is them adopting the paid online service.

Thanks Microsoft, thanks for making this the way.

Frank said:

The shitty part is them adopting the paid online service.

Thanks Microsoft, thanks for making this the way.

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That is dissapointing, but since they're going to continue to offer the free games and other benefits of PS+, it's a far smaller pile of shit. It's like... pellets, compared to Microsoft's giant pile.

Yeah, I already subscribe to PS+ so it's not a big deal. Actually, I barely buy games on PS3 thanks to the glut of free shit it gives me.

Playstation plus is kinda awesome though in comparison. I've had it for awhile now. Lots of "free" retail games. There wws a promotion awhile back to buy a year discounted and get anouther three months free. As it stands I dont have to resub until august 2014 and it was I think $40. It sucks we've been shoehorned into it to be sure. Have they said it will be required to play multiplayer yet?

Forgive my phone fingers.

Jesus, FAKE BANTER IS THE WORST BANTER.

/me slaps XBox with a Trout.

Frank said:

Jesus, FAKE BANTER IS THE WORST BANTER.

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No, rape-esque banter is the worst banter. Fake banter comes second.

That was fake rape banter, which is even worse, CAUSE THEY PLANNED AHEAD OF TIME TO MAKE A RAPE JOKE.

Sony hits it out of the park.

Ok, 400 bucks.

In. In like Flynn.

$399 pricepoint. $100 less than the X-bone.

First time I want a console at launch now.

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Good job Sony.

Sony is my master now.

I'm getting a deja vu with the Sega Saturn, except this time the Sony Playstation is stomping all over a Microsoft console.

EDIT: Ah, it's because the same thing happened with the Saturn. They announced their price, and then Sony came along and announced their console's 100 dollars cheaper.

Frank said:

First time I want a console at launch now.

Sony won my heart.[DOUBLEPOST=1370919897][/DOUBLEPOST]Seriously, I was ready to walk away from consoles.

Good job Sony.

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You know, out of pure support, I may actually do the same. Then again.... that's a pretty little new video card for my PC too.....

Sony, how did you do that? I was ready to say "Fuck you!" to this gen of consoles!

Why?

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!?!?!?!?!?

400$?

Gilgamesh said:

You know, out of pure support, I may actually do the same. Then again.... that's a pretty little new video card for my PC too.....

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I wouldn't bother with a new card this fall. I'll wait until they put out the next gen console crushing ones in a year or two before another upgrade myself.

I'm not sure I want a Sony console at launch as they're not as dependable as the ones that'll be out six to eight months later, but can't argue with that price or those decisions vs Microsoft. Good job, Sony.

I'm hoping they make fun of the no need for a camera watching my family 24/7 too.

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I wouldn't bother with a new card this fall. I'll wait until they put out the next gen console crushing ones in a year or two before another upgrade myself.

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Very true, especially considering my 580 is still rocking the house.

AshburnerX said:

Sony hits it out of the park.

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ROFLMAO

With FF XV (which I hope we finally see), Kingdom Hearts 3, huge support for indie developers, Grand Theft Auto V, and a huge double deuce to Microsoft, Sony has officially won this generation.

It does kinda suck that you'll have to pay to play online, but the fact that they're adding it in with their PS Plus, I have no problem with that. I doubt many will complain with all the free games and discounts they'll be getting.

One of my favorite pics to come out of E3 so far:


ThatNickGuy - The pay-to-play online is like $5 a month though right? That's what I read?

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Gilgamesh said:

One of my favorite pics to come out of E3 so far:

ThatNickGuy - The pay-to-play online is like $5 a month though right? That's what I read?

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Well, the last two anyway, Witcher 3 and UNF UNF UNF Watch_Dogs UNF UNF UNF.

Isn't Plus $50 right now? So it'll be $10/year more, but still with free triple A titles about once a month. Still don't see anything to complain about there.

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Isn't Plus $50 right now? So it'll be $10/year more, but still with free triple A titles about once a month. Still don't see anything to complain about there.

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Also tons of great indie games offered up for free on +.

So, what's your thoughts on the design of the console itself. I kind of wish it was square.



The part that shocks me is how small it is compared to the One. It's got comparable architecture inside, they use a lot of the same components. Why is the One such a monstrosity? Hopefully it's more compact size won't make for heat issues.

Welp.. XBOX DONE[DOUBLEPOST=1370921487][/DOUBLEPOST]

Frank said:

So, what's your thoughts on the design of the console itself. I kind of wish it was square.

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One word, Italics.

Looks sleek. I like it. Greatest controller ever. Looks perfectly fine. No Spycam looking at me sleep. That's a positive thing, I think.

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Also tons of great indie games offered up for free on +.

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Yup. And if you already have Plus, it carries over. So any PS1 games you got for free, they'll work. I assume that's not the same for the ones I bought on PSN, like anything from Telltale or Double Fine or other games like Limbo won't carry over. That's still one of the things holding me back from getting a PS4.

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Yup. And if you already have Plus, it carries over. So any PS1 games you got for free, they'll work. I assume that's not the same for the ones I bought on PSN, like anything from Telltale or Double Fine or other games like Limbo won't carry over. That's still one of the things holding me back from getting a PS4.

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Regarding this issue. I've seen this multiple times about all the new consoles. Quite frankly, I have no idea how people thought that their games would port over to the next generation console at all. Unlike PCs, which have a common coding architecture, each console has it's own coding language that it works in, and that developers (Note, that's DEVELOPERS) would have to completely re-code a game to work on a new system. There should be no expectations for a developer to go back and re-code a game for backwards compatibility when it means zero profit for them.

Also, regarding backwards compatibility in general. Why do people suddenly expect this after one generation of consoles had it? I don't seem to recall bitching about my SNES being unable to play NES games.

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Wait, I don't get it... is 400 Days Season 2, or is it the extra episode for Season 1? They weren't clear about that.

AshburnerX said:

Wait, I don't get it... is 400 Days Season 2, or is it the extra episode for Season 1? They weren't clear about that.

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They said it was a new episode, so I'm assuming it's like a one-episode sequel to the first one.

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Wait, I don't get it... is 400 Days Season 2, or is it the extra episode for Season 1? They weren't clear about that.

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It's an in-between single episode.

AshburnerX said:

Wait, I don't get it... is 400 Days Season 2, or is it the extra episode for Season 1? They weren't clear about that.

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It says at the end of the video that it's DLC for season one.

Bowielee said:

Regarding this issue. I've seen this multiple times about all the new consoles. Quite frankly, I have no idea how people thought that their games would port over to the next generation console at all. Unlike PCs, which have a common coding architecture, each console has it's own coding language that it works in, and that developers (Note, that's DEVELOPERS) would have to completely re-code a game to work on a new system. There should be no expectations for a developer to go back and re-code a game for backwards compatibility when it means zero profit for them.

Also, regarding backwards compatibility in general. Why do people suddenly expect this after one generation of consoles had it? I don't seem to recall bitching about my SNES being unable to play NES games.

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I guess it's just that they're digital copies that I can't carry over. At least with Steam, I can carry those over from PC to PC. I'm not even remotely an expert on computer mechanics or hardware or how it works, so I honestly don't understand how or why there's something hampering them being ported from PS3 to PS4.

But it really comes down to the digital rights issue. I bought those games. But now the only way I can play them is on my PS3. And honestly, I had planned on trading my PS3 to afford to get a PS4 because I have limited funds when it comes to this sort of thing. The fact that I won't be able to do anything with those digital games is the sort of thing that I've been worried about when it comes to digital rights.

And Wikipedia is already being changed to reflect the news:

The PS3 is based on the cell chip, which is this 8 core monstrosity that was a huge pain in the ass to code for. The PS4 is more normal X86 technology, it's basically a PC.

It's like trying to stick a Sega Genesis cart into your Super Nintendo.

Frank said:

The PS3 is based on the cell chip, which is this 8 core monstrosity that was a huge pain in the ass to code for. The PS4 is more normal X86 technology, it's basically a PC.

It's like trying to stick a Sega Genesis cart into your Super Nintendo.

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But a lot of those indie games were also ported to the PC. In fact, the vast majority have been. Could it not be possible, then, to port them from PC to PS4?

Frank said:

The PS3 is based on the cell chip, which is this 8 core monstrosity that was a huge pain in the ass to code for. The PS4 is more normal X86 technology, it's basically a PC.

It's like trying to stick a Sega Genesis cart into your Super Nintendo.

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Basically this. The only way we're gonna see PS3 ports is as remakes later on down the line, mainly because of how hard it is to program for and because of the chips architecture. They would literally need to stick the chip in the PS4 to do it right now and that would add an easy $100 to the price.

ThatNickGuy said:

But a lot of those indie games were also ported to the PC. In fact, the vast majority have been. Could it not be possible, then, to port them from PC to PS4?

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That's probably how it's going to happen. You might see a bunch of PC to PS4 (and 360 to PS4 ports because the 360 version is basically a PC version specced for the 360).

ThatNickGuy said:

But a lot of those indie games were also ported to the PC. In fact, the vast majority have been. Could it not be possible, then, to port them from PC to PS4?

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The underlying physical hardware may be much the same, but the OS and APIs between the game and the hardware are going to be so different that it isn't just a matter of recompiling it, it's just as much a porting effort for go from windowsX86 to PS4X86 as it was to go from cell to x86. You really have to rewrite the game engine to fit the different APIs.

Think of everything as layers. You have the game on top, the OS with it's API's in the middle, and the hardware on the bottom. Change any of the three layers, and you have to port the game, it's not just a recompile and tweak.

ThatNickGuy said:

I guess it's just that they're digital copies that I can't carry over. At least with Steam, I can carry those over from PC to PC. I'm not even remotely an expert on computer mechanics or hardware or how it works, so I honestly don't understand how or why there's something hampering them being ported from PS3 to PS4.

But it really comes down to the digital rights issue. I bought those games. But now the only way I can play them is on my PS3. And honestly, I had planned on trading my PS3 to afford to get a PS4 because I have limited funds when it comes to this sort of thing. The fact that I won't be able to do anything with those digital games is the sort of thing that I've been worried about when it comes to digital rights.

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Maybe I'm confusing something here, but how is this a digital rights issue? You bought a PS3 game for us on the PS3. You say the only way you can play them is on your PS3 and I see nothing wrong with being forced to play a game on the system it was designed for. It is nice and certainly a good move for system developers to include backwards compatibility, but I don't see it as a rights issue.

Terrik said:

Maybe I'm confusing something here, but how is this a digital rights issue? You bought a PS3 game for us on the PS3. You say the only way you can play them is on your PS3 and I see nothing wrong with being forced to play a game on the system it was designed for. It is nice and certainly a good move for system developers to include backwards compatibility, but I don't see it as a rights issue.

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That's true, I guess. Maybe it was just wishful thinking.

I guess I was just hoping those games would carry over. And who knows, maybe they will eventually. Maybe we'll see a newer version of Journey or something.

Terrik said:

Maybe I'm confusing something here, but how is this a digital rights issue? You bought a PS3 game for us on the PS3. You say the only way you can play them is on your PS3 and I see nothing wrong with being forced to play a game on the system it was designed for. It is nice and certainly a good move for system developers to include backwards compatibility, but I don't see it as a rights issue.

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My PS2 is still hooked up for just that reason.

See, the only reason that the first disk based systems were able to allow backwards compatibility is because the games from the PS1 and xbox could basically be emulated on a graphing calculator. The next generation, however, was a huge leap forward in graphics, and had to use new APIs and architectures. As I said previously, the ps1-ps2 era were really the first time that backwards compatibility even existed. It was a nice bonus, but only possible due to the downright archaic structure of the previous system and the new use of DVDs as a storage medium for games.

As for the digital rights issue, it was stated already, but it bears repeating. Those games were purchased for use on a specific console. Asking developers to go back and recode all those games is like asking a developer to go back and code Arkham City for Windows 98

xboxdone.com currently redirects to a PS4 on Amazon.

I still don't like the split directional pad on PS controllers. It contributed to me selling my PS1 and skipping the PS2. Fortunately, my PS3 games make more use of the dual analog sticks (and using the split pad as another set of action buttons, if used at all), so hopefully for me that carries over into PS4 games.

Edit to add: I mean I hated using the split button directional pad to move my character. I always had trouble moving diagonally, having to hold down two buttons instead of using the inner corner of a plus sign (like on Nintendo controllers).

Bowielee said:

go back and code Arkham City for Windows 98

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That analogy doesn't work because Arkham City had never been previously played on Windows 98. It'd be more like asking LucasArts to code Grim Fandango to work on current generation PCs.

ThatNickGuy said:

That analogy doesn't work because Arkham City had never been previously played on Windows 98. It'd be more like asking LucasArts to code Grim Fandango to work on current generation PCs.

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The point, is that it's a completely different OS. You'd be daft to expect a developer to recode a game from the ground up and not get paid for it.

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That analogy doesn't work because Arkham City had never been previously played on Windows 98. It'd be more like asking LucasArts to code Grim Fandango to work on current generation PCs.

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The conclusion being someone needs to invent the equivalent of Dosbox for Playstation.

bhamv3 said:

The conclusion being someone needs to invent the equivalent of Dosbox for Playstation.

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It exists, that's why you can play all your PS1 games on all the PS systems. A PS1 emulator can be run at no cost or effort.

Isn't it sad that the most exciting news out of E3 were basic features not even worth mentioning last gen?

Gilgamesh said:

Isn't it sad that the most exciting news out of E3 were basic features not even worth mentioning last gen?

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Sign of the times eh?

Here's another nice gesture from Sony.

Bowielee said:

As I said previously, the ps1-ps2 era were really the first time that backwards compatibility even existed. It was a nice bonus, but only possible due to the downright archaic structure of the previous system and the new use of DVDs as a storage medium for games.

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Actually, the Atari 3200 could play 2600 games too, so it's actually much older than you think.

In any case, what is going to happen is 10-15 years from now, someone is going to make something that can play these disk games all on one system, sort of like what is happening with these new NES/SNES/Genesis consoles that are coming out.

Also, here's another great .gif for the evening.

Trying to watch the Nintendo live stream and it's skipping really bad. Not that there is anything exciting so far. Just more lol pushing more release dates back.

Next Super Smash Brothers finally announced. Didn't see projected release date because feed locked up on me.

New Challengers: Animal Crossing Villager and Mega Man.[DOUBLEPOST=1370962143][/DOUBLEPOST]Joystiq is saying 2014 for Smash Bros. Saw on the feed it's for 3DS and WiiU.

Wind Waker HD to have faster sailing.

I am so fucking excited for the new Super Smash Bros. game!

Mega Man is a perfect fit for the Smash Bros universe.

I actually kind of like that Nintendo's presentation is a direct video without bothering with all the financials (which of course aren't good this year), because it becomes all about the games and less about the unnecessary fluff of the typical press conference.

I just wish they hadn't underestimated the traffic on the feed, since it was nigh slide-show-esque.

I am slightly disappointed that the graphics still look like they came from the Wii but despite that I am excited for Mario Kart 8

Wait a minute. Mega Man has never been in a Super Smash Bros game before?

How is that possible?

There is a new Donkey King Country game that will be coming out.

More info on the new Pokemon game








There is also a new trailer for Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds for the 3DS.

Stopped into the dreaded GameStop on my hunt for Animal Crossing, bunch if people already pre-ordering a PS4.

Tumblr is a mechanical Turk that creates animated GIFs:

Dei said:

Stopped into the dreaded GameStop on my hunt for Animal Crossing, bunch if people already pre-ordering a PS4.

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I pre-ordered my copy of Animal Crossing New Leaf through Amazon a few months ago (because I had a $10 gift card) and sadly it still hasn't shipped out yet.


As far as pre-ordering a PS4 goes I sadly will have to wait and hope I can still get a pre-order at the end of the month when I get paid again.

Hylian said:

As far as pre-ordering a PS3 goes I sadly will have to wait and hope I can still get a pre-order at the end of the month when I get paid again.

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Dude, you don't need to pre-order a PS3. They've had those for a few years, now!

I tried 4 places with no luck, so now I'm just gonna get the digital copies instead. (Yay for that being an option)

ThatNickGuy said:

Dude, you don't need to pre-order a PS3. They've had those for a few years, now!

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Ugh I can't believe I typed PS3 instead of PS4.


There is only one solution

That's....dark.

Terrik said:

That's....dark.

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But necessary for such a HUGE mistake.

Hylian said:

More info on the new Pokemon game

Spoiler

There is a new Pokemon type that was announced. It is "fairy" type and it will be super effective against dragon type Pokemon.

There is also a new trailer for Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds for the 3DS.

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I know that Zelda game doesn't look original other than the wall walking mechanic, but I want it so bad.

Bowielee said:

I know that Zelda game doesn't look original other than the wall walking mechanic, but I want it so bad.

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I am so with you on that one.

On one hand it looks like the same game we have played a million times and yet I want it so bad I can practically taste it.

Nintendo's flagship franchises are so good it more or less warrents the purchase of their system even if the majority of the other games are shovelware crap--and it pisses me off. I'd be happy picking up just a PS4, but nooooo, I'd be missing out on Zelda and Smash bros and Mario. Damnit.

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I know that Zelda game doesn't look original other than the wall walking mechanic, but I want it so bad.

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It looks like A Link To The Past. I can't possibly think of how this could be a negative.

Terrik said:

Nintendo's flagship franchises are so good it more or less warrents the purchase of their system even if the majority of the other games are shovelware crap--and it pisses me off. I'd be happy picking up just a PS4, but nooooo, I'd be missing out on Zelda and Smash bros and Mario. Damnit.

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Not to mention Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Donkey Kong, Mario Kart, Metroid, Kirby, and Star Fox just to name a few.

Terrik said:

Nintendo's flagship franchises are so good it more or less warrents the purchase of their system even if the majority of the other games are shovelware crap--and it pisses me off. I'd be happy picking up just a PS4, but nooooo, I'd be missing out on Zelda and Smash bros and Mario. Damnit.

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I sure as hell didn't get the WiiU to play Arkham City or AC3

I always think I don't care about Nintendo anymore since I don't like Smash Brothers, I'm awful at platformers like Mario, etc. But I also forget that Zelda makes me so excited/happy. Now I am tempted to buy a 3DS, dammit.

Also I do love Mario Kart.

Mario 3D looks pretty fun, and HKLAHGFKJHALJKHAGF;LKSGJHD MEGAMAN IN SMASH BROS.[DOUBLEPOST=1370979255][/DOUBLEPOST]Also cat Mario going NYAN NYAN fucking killed me.

There's one other new character to make note of for Smash Bros...

Pretty sure the WiiFit trainer would kick legit ass.

Mega Man in Smash Brothers. Blech. That's your Mega Man announcement Capcom?

Stop putting him in mediocre fighting games and JUST MAKE A NEW FUCKING MEGA MAN!

I'm not sure I even want a new Mega Man at this point, seeing what Capcom has done with many of their other franchises.

Frank said:

Mega Man in Smash Brothers. Blech. That's your Mega Man announcement Capcom?

Stop putting him in mediocre fighting games and JUST MAKE A NEW FUCKING MEGA MAN!

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Fuck that, putting him under the watchful eye of Nintendo means odds are he's going to be a fun character to play. Hell, every movement animation he had was ripped right out of the original series of games (jumping, sliding, etc). Capcom wouldn't have done that in any MM game they shit out at this point.

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I'm not sure I even want a new Mega Man at this point, seeing what Capcom has done with many of their other franchises.

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They almost did a dark and gritty Mega Man X reboot as a first person shooter. I'm not even shitting you. This was real and there is video to prove it.



A Mega Man FPS game isn't the worst idea I've ever heard (it worked for Metriod) but a dark and gritty reboot of an already dark series? It's like they don't understand that we want closure, not a new series.

Nintendo announces a new IP that actually looks like it could be interesting.

Monolith Soft's "X"

AshburnerX said:

They almost did a dark and gritty Mega Man X reboot as a first person shooter. I'm not even shitting you. This was real and there is video to prove it.



A Mega Man FPS game isn't the worst idea I've ever heard (it worked for Metriod) but a dark and gritty reboot of an already dark series? It's like they don't understand that we want closure, not a new series.

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The thing about the Prime series was that even though it had FPS elements to it, it was still at it's core a Metroid game. It was far more about traversal and power ups than combat.

They cancelled so many neat Mega Man games that were near completion (Legends 3, etc). Just finish one of those.

Gameplay for The Division looks pretty slick:

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It's that same old IP stuff that continues to impress.

Yeah, Nintendo should make gritty shooters and post-apocolyptic/zombie games like everyone else.

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Yeah, Nintendo should make gritty shooters and post-apocolyptic/zombie games like everyone else.

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Currently one of the best games on the system.

Oh don't get me wrong, there's solid titles in those genres both on and not on WiiU. I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with Nintendo revisiting their usual IPs considering the general quality they crank out, compared to other IP rehashes like Battlefield/CoD/sports titles.[DOUBLEPOST=1370992026][/DOUBLEPOST]

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That's I'd post a trailer of, not Mario BLA BLA 9.

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God yeah posting youtubes is hard work man.

Jay said:

Why the fuck am I being judged?

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... because you're there. You expressed an opinion and expected anything else? Are you new at this internet thing?

Plus, as the old biblical saying goes, judge not lest... I'd say you've got a lot of back judgement coming your way. So there's no use feeling besieged.

You filth.

Thank you mods.

Damnit Square, I want out. Don't make this game look fun again, please.

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Damnit Square, I want out. Don't make this game look fun again, please.

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Yeah they really need to stop calling those Final Fantasies and give them a new IP name. They're just using NPCs we know and tossing them into a very non FF style of world. It's so ridiculously off putting. Might as well call it Spirits Within and be done with it.

Then again, everytime they do this (Last Remnant) the game fails miserably.

Yeah, I mean it's nice to be excited for an RPG again, really. But I'm so leery of SE, and to top it off a game that's technically been in development for what, almost 10 years (when it was still Versus)?

I can deal with it not being a normal JRPG. 11, 12, and 14 were all nonstandard JRPGS. For me, this only needs to do three things.

- Be fun (because 13 sure as fuck wasn't)
- Be creative
- Give me a story with characters I actually care about (again, 13... I hated ALL of them.)

If it can give me those three things, I'll accept it as the new installment.

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I can deal with it not being a normal JRPG. 11, 12, and 14 were all nonstandard JRPGS. For me, this only needs to do three things.

- Be fun (because 13 sure as fuck wasn't)
- Be creative
- Give me a story with characters I actually care about (again, 13... I hated ALL of them.)

If it can give me those three things, I'll accept it as the new installment.

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This is pretty much how I see it. It's going to have to deliver pretty spot-on though, considering the current track record. I'm even a bit hesitant on KH3, even though the main installments both still hold up pretty well.

Have to admit, it looks REAL good.

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I can deal with it not being a normal JRPG. 11, 12, and 14 were all nonstandard JRPGS. For me, this only needs to do three things.

- Be fun (because 13 sure as fuck wasn't)
- Be creative
- Give me a story with characters I actually care about (again, 13... I hated ALL of them.)

If it can give me those three things, I'll accept it as the new installment.

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And 11 and 14 were MMOs and both failed (11 in the US, 14 overall). 12 is still the only FF i've never been able to stomach to finish.

Thief is looking like a lot of fun, but goddamn that Gamespot dude needed to shut the fuck up.

So I went and pre-ordered a PS4. Talking with the guy, they had about equal pre-orders for both the playstation and the xbox, which surprised both of us. He did say that they had been given a 6 console limit that was later raised to 8 for the xbox and none was given for the playstation. Only reason I can think of doing that is so everyone can start reporting that they are sold out. It might be that supply will be limited but who knows.

Bayonetta 2 may be what convinces me to get a Wii U.

Quotemander Prime said:

Bayonetta 2 may be what convinces me to get a Wii U.

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Maybe she stopped shaving her armpits?

^

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Wait, I don't get it... is 400 Days Season 2, or is it the extra episode for Season 1? They weren't clear about that.

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Telltale has an FAQ up for the game
In short:
- $5
- Tells five short stories, each centering around a different survivor (not Lee or Clem)
- Meant to add a bit of connection between Season 1 and the upcoming Season 2
- Same type of gameplay
- Choices in S1 effect 400 days, both of which will effect S2
- Not a stand-alone title, requires S1 to purchase

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Telltale has an FAQ up for the game
In short:
- $5
- Tells five short stories, each centering around a different survivor (not Lee or Clem)
- Meant to add a bit of connection between Season 1 and the upcoming Season 2
- Same type of gameplay
- Choices in S1 effect 400 days, both of which will effect S2
- Not a stand-alone title, requires S1 to purchase

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I figured that was the case for a few reasons...


In any case, I'll definitely be picking it up. Hoping for the inevitable TF2 item as well.

The Nintendo stuff has me exited. Yeah most of the good stuff isn't due out next year, but I have my system and I'm ready to go for when it does. In the meantime I still have a 360 and a PS3 to fill the gap between virtual console releases, Windwaker, Wonderful 101, and a few of the other releases this year to tide me over.

What do I think of the other consoles? Well I'm certainly not interested in an XboxOne at this time. The restrictions are just too insane for me to have any faith that it's going to be worth it. PS4 may be more worth it, but certainly not right out of the gate. I'll probably give the systems a year, which seems like a good amount of time for the prices to drop and there to be a pretty reasonable exclusive game gallery to select from.

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PS4 may be more worth it, but certainly not right out of the gate.

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Says the guy with a WiiU

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Says the guy with a WiiU

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Christmas gift. So I get a pass.

Xbox head says that anyone who wants offline play can go get a 360.

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Xbox head says that anyone who wants offline play can go get a 360.

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How can they be this ignorant and stupid?

Found this chart on Reddit

Wait. There's a new game coming to the PS2?

That surprised me as well

I mean is there really enough people still buying new PS2 games to justify making it for the PS2. I find it especially interesting since they are not releasing it for the Wii U or the 3DS.

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Wait. There's a new game coming to the PS2?

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It's FIFA though, so really, it's not a new game.

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That surprised me as well

I mean is there really enough people still buying new PS2 games to justify making it for the PS2. I find it especially interesting since they are not releasing it for the Wii U or the 3DS.

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Given that it's Fifa, it's probably aimed at the overseas market, where there might be quite a few PS2s still in use.

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Given that it's Fifa, it's probably aimed at the overseas market, where there might be quite a few PS2s still in use.

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Mine is still hooked up so I can play my PS2 games.

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Wait. There's a new game coming to the PS2?

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While games like MADDEN are huge in the states, FIFA is huge all over the world because Soccer is just a much more worldwide sport. In many of the countries where people would be buying FIFA, it's much more rare to find a PS3 over the now much cheaper PS2. EA knows this, thus why they are making sure they have a PS2 variation to sell and bring in that cash.

Quote about Capcom on Dead Rising 3:

Capcom is pointedly trying to appeal to a wider audience in this latest iteration, saying it's going after the Call of Duty player.

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/fart noises

Frank said:

/fartnoise fartnoise jr.

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FTFY

I hope they go bankrupt and Inafuni can just buy Mega Man in the fire sale.

Frank said:

Quote about Capcom on Dead Rising 3:



/fart noises

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Pictured here, Dead Rising 3:



My reaction:

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Sony's conference is late...I hope it's because they're putting the final touches on all their Powerpoint slides changing $499 to $399.

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Found this chart on Reddit

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Dude awesome job.

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Dude awesome job.

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I just saw it on Reddit and posted it over here, the person who actually made it goes by Whitexar.

You know, I find the outcomes of E3 and the seeming dominance of Sony and the PS4 quite interesting. If we look to the past, at the beginning of the current console generation, the roles were reversed. Sony's offering was a bloated, expensive mess, including a technology that significantly raised the price of the console over the others. A technology (in this case, Blu-Ray) that not many people had yet to adapt or even wanted, in a time when HDTV's still had a minor presence among households. The winner of that war had seemed to be Microsoft. I say Microsoft and not Nintendo, because Nintendo opted for a different stategy, they didn't fight in that war. While MS and Sony were grappling for dominance of a specific arena, Nintendo was content to go somewhere else, and the newness of it made it an early favorite and propelled the Wii to a vast number of sales, whereas hardly anyone wanted to buy a PS4.

The first console of that generation that I purchased was a Wii. And it was fun, tons of hours flailing around in the living room. Eventually I got a 360 for the more 'core' gaming, and when I finally got an HDTV, I picked up a ps3 for the blu-ray. Today, I haven't touched my Wii in years (insert pun here) and it's damn rare that I ever turn on my xbox. The ps3, on the other hand, gets tons of use, for gaming, for blu-ray, for streaming media from my pc and netflix and all the stuff that Sony claimed people would want but the world wasn't quite yet ready for. So how does that hold up against this year's E3?

Microsoft feels a little too late in their embracing of media. The PS3 did this, and it turned out to be a winning move for the console, but it was a different time. I don't need an xbone to watch tv on, I've got a billion different devices that can stream different media to any goddamn screen in my house. Their forced technology this generation isn't as game-changing as Blu-Ray was. No one really cares for the kinect, and there's no real benefit to embracing it as a technology for advanced media beyond gaming (and no reason to embrace it for gaming, either). Sony, meanwhile, learned from all of their mistakes. They came out swinging with a battle plan that had been forged from a generation of war. Sony is as much a faceless corporation as Microsoft is, yet they've come to the conclusion that making gamers happy is their best business model, and they used this to great effect to downright humiliate Microsoft. They were the seeming underdog last generation, and managed to rise to dominance. Will they keep it this generation? It'll be interesting to see.

That's JUST what Plants vs. Zombies needed! Third-person co-op military shooter elements!

the fuuuuuuuuuuuuck

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Plants Vs Zombies: Garden Warfare - a co-op class-based third-person tower-defense shooter​

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Gameplay video:​

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I'm still not sold. Call me when they make it brown.

/darth vader

NOOOOOOOOOOO!

stienman said:

/darth vader

DO NOT WANT!

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Fixed that for you, old sport.

This looks like it has the potential to be a fun game, but really, did they need to plug the PvZ brand name onto it? Or is it just another generic shooter if it doesn't have peashooters and sunflowers?

Either way, I don't think I'll be getting this game.

I spoke with one of our guests who is staying with us for the expo. He says that he's with retail and he recently went into a meeting with Microsoft to discuss retails part in their whole... shitfest. However apparently not a damn thing was discussed regarding sales of used games. They just wasted the entire time showing them game trailers that they had all seen before. However there was one thing that he noticed: No representative from Gamestop. He's pretty convinced that Microsoft has already made a deal with Gamestop regarding the retail of used games. Except some huge mark-ups.

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I spoke with one of our guests who is staying with us for the expo. He says that he's with retail and he recently went into a meeting with Microsoft to discuss retails part in their whole... shitfest. However apparently not a damn thing was discussed regarding sales of used games. They just wasted the entire time showing them game trailers that they had all seen before. However there was one thing that he noticed: No representative from Gamestop. He's pretty convinced that Microsoft has already made a deal with Gamestop regarding the retail of used games. Except some huge mark-ups.

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This was my impression the second Gamestop didn't mount a PR campaign after the first press conference like Redbox did. I'm guessing Gamestop is going to be the ONLY US retailer that can let you sell Xbox One games, with GAME being the UK one. It's the only way it could happen without Microsoft having it's product tossed out of the store.

I wonder if this counts as a monopoly and will put Microsoft under federal investigation like it was in the late 90's/early 2000's regarding Internet Explorer.

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This was my impression the second Gamestop didn't mount a PR campaign after the first press conference like Redbox did. I'm guessing Gamestop is going to be the ONLY US retailer that can let you sell Xbox One games, with GAME being the UK one. It's the only way it could happen without Microsoft having it's product tossed out of the store.

I wonder if this counts as a monopoly and will put Microsoft under federal investigation like it was in the late 90's/early 2000's regarding Internet Explorer.

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I'm sure they will have a way to avoid this issue since technically they are only controlling the resale of Xbox games. Feel free to buy a PS4, a WiiU, or even (as the Microsoft Exec comments) a 360.

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I'm sure they will have a way to avoid this issue since technically they are only controlling the resale of Xbox games. Feel free to buy a PS4, a WiiU, or even (as the Microsoft Exec comments) a 360.

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There's going to be hell to pay if Gamestop is allowed exclusive access to the used games market. Best Buy and others are going to throw a shit fit.

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There's going to be hell to pay if Gamestop is allowed exclusive access to the used games market. Best Buy and others are going to throw a shit fit.

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Everyone is already throwing a shit fit over it. The company's intentions are clear. "We want more fucking money." But requiring registering your games to a specific account is not a new practice so I'm sure Microsoft has already gone over the legal requirements of such an endeavor. What does this mean for retail companies? Oh I'm sure they will have the ability to resell XboxOne titles, which will be probably completely dependent on if they have supplied Microsoft/The publisher with a fee. A fee that they are certainly going to pass on to the customers by jacking up prices. I think companies like Best Buy should instead focus on the other two consoles when it comes to used games.

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I don't fucking know what the fuck I fucking just fucking saw.... what the hell is this?

Our "healer" class? Our "tank" class? Did we really need this?

Laaaaame.

Also, WTF is with the constant zooming back to the players playing the game?

No one, I repeat no one cares about the people playing the game... show me the GAME. You have 4-5 minutes tops, don't waste 30 seconds showing me this.

I like that exclusives/games list....Except that calling "Minecraft: XBone Edition" an XBone Exclusive is really pushing limits. it's Minecraft. if that's an exclusive, Fifa: PC Game edition is a "pc exclusive", Fifa: PS4 Edition is a "ps4 exclusive" and so on.

Also funny how the WiiU has the highest amount of "exclusives".

As much as I'm a Nintendo Fan, I question why Luigi Bros is an exclusive. Isn't it just a DLC for the last Mario Bros game for the system?

I feel like Sony and Microsoft had this big conference together and were all 'We should go in together on this, no used games - DRM, we can corner the market, get more money, both price at $499.' And Sony was all 'Sure, Microsoft *shifty eyes*, we'll totally do that. Yeah, together!' And then laughed from the sidelines to watch the storm roll in.

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I feel like Sony and Microsoft had this big conference together and were all 'We should go in together on this, no used games - DRM, we can corner the market, get more money, both price at $499.' And Sony was all 'Sure, Microsoft *shifty eyes*, we'll totally do that. Yeah, together!' And then laughed from the sidelines to watch the storm roll in.

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Does this mean anything?

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It means they've got some explaining to do, but since they've suggested that its the same as the ps3, then chances are it means that digital games without media are tied to your account and can only be sold or traded if the publisher supports that, and that physical games with media can be traded and sold with impunity.

There still lies a grey area whee a physical game may come with a key or online component that gets tied to your account, which may mean the game cannot be fully traded or resold, but the publisher may provide just keys for a discount. This is not allowed on the first party titles, but third party publishers have more options.

So big titles with physical media will always be resell able. Digital titles will rarely be resell able. Some third party physical titles may have issues.

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As much as I'm a Nintendo Fan, I question why Luigi Bros is an exclusive. Isn't it just a DLC for the last Mario Bros game for the system?

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Yes, but they're also releasing a physical retail version in August. It's $30 instead of $20, comes in a green case, and does not require owning New Super Mario Bros. U to play. I guess that could count it as a stand-alone game as well.

Publishers have had the ability to enforce blocks on used games (one time use codes, attaching the game disc with the system it is first used on,etc) for ages now. EA has dabbled in this by making it so that certain games had to have a code to access online content. Now since Microsoft is enforcing new policies on used games some publishers may take it as a chance to enforce it on the PS3. But since they have had the ability to do this type of thing for awhile now I am hoping the publishers will avoid the temptation to start.

I wouldn't put it past Sony to change their mind later once they have a good chunk of the market share. They dropped backwards compatibility on the PS3 pretty quick, which was understandable so they could drop the price of the console, but also completely took away the ability for the PS3 to run other OS's through a firmware patch. Have they said if the capability to restrict used games is built into the PS4 and just not used?

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Have they said if the capability to restrict used games is built into the PS4 and just not used?

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I don't think they have, but I'm pretty sure it is in there.