Huh...that trailer actually looks all right. Still wish they'd stick with the original armor design though.
Freeze, Scum. I'm Batma...er...Robocop.
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GasBandit
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Raven's second post ninja'd me, so the transition is awkward. I was responding to the "why they painted it black when it looked good in silver" part.
Man, fuck that.
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I was going to put here a clip of Murphy's death scene from the original Robocop, when Red Foreman blows him apart. But I wasn't able to find the original clip. So here it is with farts edited in in place of sound.
One thing I think looks like it might be interesting is that Murphy's wife seems to interact with him more in his Robocop form than in the original series. In the original movie she was just a flash back, in the second she talked to him once and then never talked to him again , and in the third all we see of her is her running away. Now the first film is excusable, Murphy has hardly any access to his memories of his past life and didn't even identify himself as Murphy but Robocop. By the end of the film he has remembered that he isn't some machine that just gives out orders, but a human being with thoughts and emotions. So in the sequel they should have developed on this more, maybe have him pursue his wife right? Well he stalks her, she asks if he is her husband, he says no, the mean science lady says he's not even a corpse, and then he fights a crazy cyborg drug lord because action is more important than someone trying to reclaim their humanity. If they can address this better in the reboot I may possibly consider being okay with the costume change maybe.
GasBandit
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You missed the real point of the second movie. He IS Murphy, he knows he's Murphy, but the confrontation with Dr Faxx broke his will because he realized she was right - he had nothing that he could offer his former wife but a cold, emotionless reminder of what she had lost. So he decides for her sake to subsume "Murphy" and embrace "Robocop," and make as clean and as final a break with his wife as possible, because he'd been leading her on up to that point - he realized it wasn't fair to her, and he had to let her move on. And she couldn't move on so long as there was any indication that any of "Murphy" was still alive in Robocop. Thus, the cruel indifference of their conversation, which left her in tears but with no false hope of seeing her husband again.
Meh, it looks just as lame as the original. Pass.
..........wat?
GasBandit
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"If you were so tired of life, you could have told me. I could have arranged something with some dignity. But now. Now there will be no dignity. They will torture you, until they are tired of you, and when you no longer amuse them, they will kill you."
You all really think that Robocop (Veerhoven's) is a good movie??? Good as in, The Untouchables? To me, it's an 80's Starship Troopers (also lame).
Or, do you like it b/c it's Veerhoven over-the-top "it's so campy that it's good"?
Here's a list of movies from 1987: http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=1987&view=releasedate&view2=domestic&sort=gross&
Robocop sucks compared to other movies released that year. Lethal Weapon was way better. The Running Man was about as equally goofy. Y'all must have some serious rose-colored glasses for Robocop.
Now, I thought it was cool when I was a kid. I also thought American Ninja and Blind Fury were cool back in the day. They don't hold up like Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, FMJ, or The Untouchables.
Or, do you like it b/c it's Veerhoven over-the-top "it's so campy that it's good"?
Here's a list of movies from 1987: http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=1987&view=releasedate&view2=domestic&sort=gross&
Robocop sucks compared to other movies released that year. Lethal Weapon was way better. The Running Man was about as equally goofy. Y'all must have some serious rose-colored glasses for Robocop.
Now, I thought it was cool when I was a kid. I also thought American Ninja and Blind Fury were cool back in the day. They don't hold up like Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, FMJ, or The Untouchables.
Having watched it recently, no it's not rose-coloured glasses. I have to ask, have you watched it recently? Because Verhoeven managed to combine a movie with mass market appeal with it's over the top violence and exploderamaness while at the same still managing to put out one of the most biting satires of western society in the 1980's and better than almost anything that's been done in the last 20 years. This is really just the beginnings of what makes it a great film.
It would be like if the Transformers movies, while being what they are, also managed to do an engaging satire of car and military culture, which it doesn't. It's a fucking ad for both.
It's an enduring classic that still holds up to this day.
It would be like if the Transformers movies, while being what they are, also managed to do an engaging satire of car and military culture, which it doesn't. It's a fucking ad for both.
It's an enduring classic that still holds up to this day.
After watching the preview, I can see why they went with the black armor, despite the silver looking better. Typical corporate bungling... "Let's go with something tacticool, make it black."
Don't know about him still remembering being Murphy from the outset, though... going to have to see how that plays out.
Like Frank noted, though... I think they've missed the point of the original. Maybe it'll work in the film itself, but it's not looking promising...
Don't know about him still remembering being Murphy from the outset, though... going to have to see how that plays out.
Like Frank noted, though... I think they've missed the point of the original. Maybe it'll work in the film itself, but it's not looking promising...
I don't usually like the whole "judge a movie based on trailer" thing, but GOD ALMIGHTY that looks so fucking bad.
Absolutely not.
Yes, I have seen it recently (maybe 3 yrs ago). I guess I am not a Verhoven fan. Looking at his films, I haven't liked a single one. I do get what he was doing with his commentary (I didn't understand it when I was a kid and liked it more - go figure). It doesn't amuse or entertain me. It's just like Tarintino's message in Inglorious Basterds. I didn't like that either. Though, Tarintino's message really stuck it to the audience.
I have two buddies that love his (Verhoven) movies. I guess just like them we'll have to agree to disagree.[DOUBLEPOST=1378494522,1378494272][/DOUBLEPOST]
I don't like Verhoven, but I'd watch his worst film over Bay's best (sic) film.
This was actually expanded on quite a bit in the TV series. Which actually wasn't that bad, considering most movie to TV series adaptations.