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Freeze, Scum. I'm Batma...er...Robocop.

Sep 17, 2012#1

Zappit

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/15/heres-the-new-robocop

So that's the look. Batman with a Michael Jacksonesque one glove treatment.

Sep 17, 2012#2

Gilgamesh

Repost from Reddit.

Surprisingly the responses were more toward disliking the updated version and liking the all matte black version more.

Sep 17, 2012#3

Yoshimickster

....wait. The one on the RIGHT is the one fan's hate? But...IT LOOKS SOMEWHAT LIKE THE ORIGINAL NOW! I can actually get behind this movie now! The only reason people complain about the updated version is because they obviously have never seen the original franchise. Course....that's also most likely why the Bayformers are so popular. So I expect them going back to the original costume very likely.

Sep 17, 2012#4

bhamv3

Among the two, I gotta say the all-black one sucks less.

The half-silver one looks like he's wearing something like one of those really short jackets that girls sometimes wear. You know the ones I'm talking about? They have long sleeves, but the torso part stops like five inches below the armpits.

Sep 17, 2012#5

Yoshimickster

Well I like it. The all black one makes him look like a limited edition black-repaint version in my opinion.

Sep 17, 2012#6

sixpackshaker

Isn't he the DJ for Daft Punk?

Sep 17, 2012#7

Yoshimickster

Hmmmmmmmmmm, maybe.

Sep 17, 2012#8

SpecialKO

If they're going with a slimmed-down superhero-esque version of the suit (as in the pic), the black one looks a lot better IMO. Maybe if they painted the entire thing that mottled silver color instead of leaving the torso black, I would like it better. The original suit worked in metallic grey because he actually looked like a giant machine-monstrosity.

This suit looks more like Judge Dredd turned into an anime, and for that, all-black looks better.

Sep 17, 2012#9

strawman

Will the real robocop please stand up?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...etroit-needs-a-statue-of-robocop/posts/189477

Looks like we're still a few months away.

Sep 17, 2012#10

AshburnerX

I think the only way this movie is going to work is if they include the original version somehow. I know the original actor won't return (because that suit fucking SUCKS to be in) but someone in the suit and maybe some dubbed lines would go a long way towards me seeing this.

Alternatively, add some color to the suit. Matte black is boring. Toss some red or maybe police blue on there to make him pop out from the background, because right now he looks more like a piece of military hardware than something built to serve and protect.

Sep 17, 2012#11

drifter

Well, OCP has military interests, right? It'd actually make some sense if Robocop is a small scale test run for an armed forces contract, just for an example.

Sep 17, 2012#12

AshburnerX

drifter said:
Well, OCP has military interests, right? It'd actually make some sense if Robocop is a small scale test run for an armed forces contract, just for an example.

They'd still change the paint scheme for public relations reasons. You don't want your walking death machine to LOOK like one to the public. You want it to look like a stern, but fair officer of the law. Which is why they'd paint it a different color. Just look at the original Robocop: his stylized silver exterior was meant to invoke a feel of an ultra modern tool... but all his in-universe propaganda played up his officer of the law persona, like when he met up with the school children in the first one.

Sep 17, 2012#13

Yoshimickster

Now the ED-209 is gonna be in this one right? Or was that just fan-art I saw somewhere?

Sep 17, 2012#14

drifter

AshburnerX said:
They'd still change the paint scheme for public relations reasons. You don't want your walking death machine to LOOK like one to the public. You want it to look like a stern, but fair officer of the law. Which is why they'd paint it a different color. Just look at the original Robocop: his stylized silver exterior was meant to invoke a feel of an ultra modern tool... but all his in-universe propaganda played up his officer of the law persona, like when he met up with the school children in the first one.

I dunno, seems like the police are becoming more militarized these days; various police departments have tanks and unmanned aerial drones. And given Robocop's overall dystopian viewpoint, it makes sense to me. I mean, I agree about making him look less militaristic, but I wouldn't fault the filmmakers for going all black. Still, I hope the conjecture by others is correct, and that this is some kind of "pre-Robocop" suit.

Sep 17, 2012#15

AshburnerX

I could see them using it as a mo-cap kind of thing, then adding on a layer of CGI.

And yes, it's true that they have those things... but they usually paint them in police colors and have identifying marks on it. I think that's the big issue with the current design: He doesn't have any Detroit Police emblems or initials or other identifying marks on it. Making it look intimidating it one thing, but you have to put that stuff on their so people know what it is.

Sep 17, 2012#16

Yoshimickster

That I admit would look cool, like maybe on one of his shoulder plates.

Sep 17, 2012#17

drifter

AshburnerX said:
I think that's the big issue with the current design: He doesn't have any Detroit Police emblems or initials or other identifying marks on it.

To be fair, neither did the original Robocop, unless one considers bluish-silver an identifiable police color.

Sep 17, 2012#18

Ravenpoe

That could always be an evil robocop. Does anyone remember that terrible made for tv movie miniseries where they made another cyborg cop that looked just like robocop, but was shinier with a silver visor?

No? Me neither.

Sep 18, 2012#19

tegid

This teaser poster:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=67290

Seems to indicate that Robocop will indeed be black.

Sep 18, 2012#20

Frank

Ravenpoe said:
That could always be an evil robocop. Does anyone remember that terrible made for tv movie miniseries where they made another cyborg cop that looked just like robocop, but was shinier with a silver visor?

No? Me neither.

His name was Robocable.

..........I mean, me neither.

People saying new Robocop looks like Batman, all I saw was Iron Man suit spray painted matte black with a tron lightcycle helmet.

Sep 18, 2012#21

AshburnerX

tegid said:
This teaser poster:
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=67290

Seems to indicate that Robocop will indeed be black.

It also looks like they are adding in some red, which is what the costume needed.

Sep 18, 2012#22

Bowielee

I've kind of hit the point where I'm putting my foot down on these things. I will avoid this like the plague unless reviews and word of mouth proclaim it to be the second coming.

At least the wave of comic movies are original in that they're adaptations of another medium, but I'm not going to watch the same movie I watched as a child any more. I'm sick of all these movies riding a wave of nostalgia and absolutely nothing else.

Also, THIS is what my generation has to contribute artistically? Regurgitating what they saw as a child.

Generation X indeed.

Sep 18, 2012#23

Yoshimickster

The future is under contr-PFFFFFFFFFFT-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh dark lord I needed that.

Oct 11, 2012#24

evilmike

New pictures are up onMailOnline

Oct 11, 2012#25

sixpackshaker

yep, totally looks like a cyborg...

/sarcasm.

Oct 11, 2012#26

strawman

Black is the new chrome/brushed aluminum.

Oct 11, 2012#27

Azurephoenix

I am RoboIronManMasterChiefCop?

Oct 11, 2012#28

Frank

Definitely better looking than this 25 year old movie's cyborg makeup job.

Wait, it isn't.

Oct 11, 2012#29

AshburnerX

I'll say this much though: At least now I can see that he IS indeed marked as a police officer. He has a badge over his heart. Still, it should be colored and more easily readable.

Oct 11, 2012#30

Tress

AshburnerX said:
I'll say this much though: At least now I can see that he IS indeed marked as a police officer. He has a badge over his heart. Still, it should be colored and more easily readable.

But that wouldn't be h84dk0re grimdark in the eyes of out-of-touch studio executives.

Oct 11, 2012#31

Azurephoenix

Tress said:
But that wouldn't be h84dk0re grimdark in the eyes of out-of-touch studio executives.

Since when is an "8" an acceptable substitute for an "A"... you fail at 1337!

Oct 11, 2012#32

Tress

Azurephoenix said:
Since when is an "8" an acceptable substitute for an "A"... you fail at 1337!

As if a Hollywood executive would know that!

Oct 11, 2012#33

Yoshimickster

evilmike said:
New pictures are up onMailOnline

Oh sweet strawberry Jesus what is with his face? If this lazy photoshop style face is what he looks like in the movie, I'ma cut somebody.

Oct 11, 2012#34

Ravenpoe

Yoshimickster said:
Oh sweet strawberry Jesus what is with his face? If this lazy photoshop style face is what he looks like in the movie, I'ma cut somebody.

If you had to wear that, you'd make that face too.

Oct 11, 2012#35

Yoshimickster

This movie is going to tank hard and I am going to sneak in to see it. No way am I paying for this debacle.

Oct 11, 2012#36

Officer_Charon

The recessed/matte badge is not SO much of a bad thing... nothing like having a large shiny target right over one's heart, after all...

But yes, I still VERY much prefer the 80's styling of the original to this new, edgy design. I will hold out to see how it's looking in post-production.

I will still see it, but it might just end up being a redbox rental...

Oct 11, 2012#37

Bowielee

Nope, I'm still making a stand. Fuck this movie and everything it represents.

Hell, even if it's heralded as the second coming, I'm refusing to support these anymore.

Oct 12, 2012#38

Bubble181

It'll depend a lot on effects, as far as looks go, for me.
The original *movie* had some cool points (such as what Frank posted, and a few others) where it really looked like parts of where a human body should go were missing. Compare to evilmike's picture of modern Robocop, where it's clearly just incapsulating his head. Meh.
However, in 80% of the movies, Robocop just looked like a guy in a suit - and in some scenes, especially in RC3, like a guy in a bad Halloween costume, at that. We'll see if he's convincing. But yeah, "all-black is cool" is getting old and tired.

Oct 12, 2012#39

AshburnerX

Officer_Charon said:
The recessed/matte badge is not SO much of a bad thing... nothing like having a large shiny target right over one's heart, after all...

Pretty sure that stops mattering when your a cyborg and your heart (or whatever is pumping your fluids) is behind an inch or so of ballistic materials.

This reminds me: I hope they drop the baby food thing. That was kinda stupid.

Oct 12, 2012#40

Bubble181

AshburnerX said:
This reminds me: I hope they drop the baby food thing. That was kinda stupid.

And yet, one of the more plausible parts. If we ever do make fully cybernetic bodies, there's a good chance they WILL have to resort to either IV drip feeding or mushy baby food eating. Breaking down the food we eat into energy our body can actually use? Hard.
Of course, it's a lot more realistic considering modern scientific progress that they'll just transplant some cloned bowels/stomach/as needed, which would make this unnecessary.

Oct 12, 2012#41

@Li3n

AshburnerX said:
This reminds me: I hope they drop the baby food thing. That was kinda stupid.

Now you've done it, prepare to waste a whole day: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealityIsUnrealistic

Oct 12, 2012#42

Yoshimickster

I would honestly be a little annoyed if they didn't add the baby food. It added a realistic element to Robocop and I always enjoy that in sci-fi. If they make a sequel to this remake and it DOESN'T have the whacky drug-lord terrorist I'm gonna be pissed.

Oct 17, 2012#43

evilmike

Ain't It Cool News is reporting that the movie has been pushed back to February 2014.

No word on if the studio will use this extra time to add 3-D or possibly Channing Tatum.

Oct 17, 2012#44

Frank

Good stuff.

Oct 17, 2012#45

sixpackshaker

Hopefully the added time will give them a chance to redo the Batman.... er, cyborg armor...

Oct 17, 2012#46

Frank

Nah, like in GI Joe, when a studio interferes that hard in a movie's production, it's a pile of unwatchable trash.

Oct 17, 2012#47

Yoshimickster

....3-D? Well *clap* that proves this film is gonna suck dude-eggs. I'll keep my keyboard warm.

Oct 18, 2012#48

Gilgamesh

New pic.

Oct 18, 2012#49

Cheesy1

Oct 18, 2012#50

Yoshimickster

Gilgamesh said:
New pic.

The lights look like they are squinting at me. I feel uncomfortable.

Oct 18, 2012#51

AshburnerX

They should make that big, blank space on the faceplate of his helmet a screen or something. Display someone's rights as he reads them. Maybe display the actual law that they broke and it's associated penalties. Really, just anything to get rid of the huge blank spot.

Oct 18, 2012#52

strawman

I don't know. A daft punk look might be a bit distracting.

It is a lot of blank helmet though.

Oct 18, 2012#53

evilmike

stienman said:
I don't know. A daft punk look might be a bit distracting.

It is a lot of blank helmet though.

It's the robot equivalent of a fivehead.

Oct 18, 2012#54

Yoshimickster

Maybe his utterly shiny head is for criminals to look deep into themselves as they are going to the slammer! Or its just a garrish looking helmet.

Oct 18, 2012#55

sixpackshaker

That helmet could lead to a great drinking game when it comes out on video.

Take a drink every time the camera is reflected in the helmet, and drink two every time you see a boom mic in it.

Oct 18, 2012#56

Yoshimickster

Let's hope he isn't asked to go on any stealth missions cos flash lights would reflect upon him like nobodies business!

Oct 18, 2012#57

Ravenpoe

Yoshimickster said:
Let's hope he isn't asked to go on any stealth missions cos flash lights would reflect upon him like nobodies business!

I'm imagining the original robocop, with the 800 pound footsteps and the whining servos, trying to be stealthy.

Oct 18, 2012#58

Azurephoenix

Robocop isn't about stealth and infiltration.

He's about shock and awe.

Oct 18, 2012#59

Yoshimickster

Ravenpoe said:
I'm imagining the original robocop, with the 800 pound footsteps and the whining servos, trying to be stealthy.

And yet his costume stands out less than the new version. Or...stands out more. Which one is the one that says the old version is better?

Jul 18, 2013#60

Frank

Relatively new pic, and for a split, JOYOUS, second I thought he had a robot dog sidekick.

Jul 18, 2013#61

bhamv3

Someone photoshop an N7 logo onto that guy's breast.

Jul 18, 2013#62

Ravenpoe

Frank said:
Relatively new pic, and for a split, JOYOUS, second I thought he had a robot dog sidekick.

Oh man... so did I.

Also, that still looks like a guy in a futuristic amored suit, rather than a cyborg. I mean, I realize it -is- a guy in a suit, but that doesn't mean it has to look like that.

Sep 5, 2013#63

Frank

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/179037-the-first-trailer-for-robocop-is-here

Trailer is here.

He looks so God damn good in the gunmetal grey.....then they fuckin' dark him up.

Also, he sounds like a wiener. He sure as hell doesn't have Peter Weller's vocal cords.

I dunno, I know it's a trailer and I can hardly base my opinion on it, but it really looks like it's missing...oh, all of the satire of the original.

Sep 5, 2013#64

Bowielee

Excellent cast.... It will probably be a DVD watch for me, though.

Sep 5, 2013#65

Frank

All the exposed face....he looks like Iron Man still with his mask up.

He spends half the trailer with his face out.

Kind of missing out on the whole horror of what he really is like in the original.

Sep 5, 2013#66

Ravenpoe

Oh man... why? That original silver suit... it looked awesome. Why spray-paint it black?[DOUBLEPOST=1378424812,1378424723][/DOUBLEPOST]

Frank said:
All the exposed face....he looks like Iron Man still with his mask up.

He spends half the trailer with his face out.

Kind of missing out on the whole horror of what he really is like in the original.

Totally agree, the original with his helmet off was terrifying, he should be terrifying. He's the embodiment of a man taken over by the corporate machine.

Sep 5, 2013#67

GasBandit

CAUSE IT'S GOTTA BE EXTREEEEEMEE

Sep 5, 2013#68

Bowielee

Ravenpoe said:
Oh man... why? That original silver suit... it looked awesome. Why spray-paint it black?[DOUBLEPOST=1378424812,1378424723][/DOUBLEPOST]

Totally agree, the original with his helmet off was terrifying, he should be terrifying. He's the embodiment of a man taken over by the corporate machine.

Modern Movies said:
Fuck you and your subtextual horror. This be all about the 'splosions and shit. Subtlety is for sissies.

Sep 5, 2013#69

ThatNickGuy

That...doesn't look as terrible as I expected. I wanted to hold off any major complaints about the new look until I saw it in action and yeah, it's not that bad.

It's highly unlikely it'll be as good as the original, but I'm willing to give this a shot.

Sep 5, 2013#70

Frank

GasBandit said:
CAUSE IT'S GOTTA BE EXTREEEEEMEE

And it's PG-13.....

Sep 5, 2013#71

Yoshimickster

Huh...that trailer actually looks all right. Still wish they'd stick with the original armor design though.

Sep 5, 2013#72

GasBandit

Frank said:
And it's PG-13.....

Raven's second post ninja'd me, so the transition is awkward. I was responding to the "why they painted it black when it looked good in silver" part.

Sep 5, 2013#73

Ravenpoe

Frank said:
And it's PG-13.....

Man, fuck that.

...

I was going to put here a clip of Murphy's death scene from the original Robocop, when Red Foreman blows him apart. But I wasn't able to find the original clip. So here it is with farts edited in in place of sound.

Sep 5, 2013#74

bhamv3

Hmm, not too bad. I might watch this.

I still say they should add an N7 logo to his breast though.

Sep 5, 2013#75

Gilgamesh

It looks like a guy wearing a suit. Even more so than before now.

Sep 5, 2013#76

Yoshimickster

One thing I think looks like it might be interesting is that Murphy's wife seems to interact with him more in his Robocop form than in the original series. In the original movie she was just a flash back, in the second she talked to him once and then never talked to him again , and in the third all we see of her is her running away. Now the first film is excusable, Murphy has hardly any access to his memories of his past life and didn't even identify himself as Murphy but Robocop. By the end of the film he has remembered that he isn't some machine that just gives out orders, but a human being with thoughts and emotions. So in the sequel they should have developed on this more, maybe have him pursue his wife right? Well he stalks her, she asks if he is her husband, he says no, the mean science lady says he's not even a corpse, and then he fights a crazy cyborg drug lord because action is more important than someone trying to reclaim their humanity. If they can address this better in the reboot I may possibly consider being okay with the costume change maybe.

Sep 5, 2013#77

GasBandit

Yoshimickster said:
One thing I think looks like it might be interesting is that Murphy's wife seems to interact with him more in his Robocop form than in the original series. In the original movie she was just a flash back, in the second she talked to him once and then never talked to him again , and in the third all we see of her is her running away. Now the first film is excusable, Murphy has hardly any access to his memories of his past life and didn't even identify himself as Murphy but Robocop. By the end of the film he has remembered that he isn't some machine that just gives out orders, but a human being with thoughts and emotions. So in the sequel they should have developed on this more, maybe have him pursue his wife right? Well he stalks her, she asks if he is her husband, he says no, the mean science lady says he's not even a corpse, and then he fights a crazy cyborg drug lord because action is more important than someone trying to reclaim their humanity. If they can address this better in the reboot I may possibly consider being okay with the costume change maybe.

You missed the real point of the second movie. He IS Murphy, he knows he's Murphy, but the confrontation with Dr Faxx broke his will because he realized she was right - he had nothing that he could offer his former wife but a cold, emotionless reminder of what she had lost. So he decides for her sake to subsume "Murphy" and embrace "Robocop," and make as clean and as final a break with his wife as possible, because he'd been leading her on up to that point - he realized it wasn't fair to her, and he had to let her move on. And she couldn't move on so long as there was any indication that any of "Murphy" was still alive in Robocop. Thus, the cruel indifference of their conversation, which left her in tears but with no false hope of seeing her husband again.

Sep 6, 2013#78

drawn_inward

Meh, it looks just as lame as the original. Pass.

Sep 6, 2013#79

Frank

drawn_inward said:
Meh, it looks just as lame as the original. Pass.

..........wat?

Sep 6, 2013#80

GasBandit

drawn_inward said:
Meh, it looks just as lame as the original. Pass.

"If you were so tired of life, you could have told me. I could have arranged something with some dignity. But now. Now there will be no dignity. They will torture you, until they are tired of you, and when you no longer amuse them, they will kill you."

Sep 6, 2013#81

drawn_inward

You all really think that Robocop (Veerhoven's) is a good movie??? Good as in, The Untouchables? To me, it's an 80's Starship Troopers (also lame).
Or, do you like it b/c it's Veerhoven over-the-top "it's so campy that it's good"?
Here's a list of movies from 1987: http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=1987&view=releasedate&view2=domestic&sort=gross&

Robocop sucks compared to other movies released that year. Lethal Weapon was way better. The Running Man was about as equally goofy. Y'all must have some serious rose-colored glasses for Robocop.

Now, I thought it was cool when I was a kid. I also thought American Ninja and Blind Fury were cool back in the day. They don't hold up like Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, FMJ, or The Untouchables.

Sep 6, 2013#82

Frank

Having watched it recently, no it's not rose-coloured glasses. I have to ask, have you watched it recently? Because Verhoeven managed to combine a movie with mass market appeal with it's over the top violence and exploderamaness while at the same still managing to put out one of the most biting satires of western society in the 1980's and better than almost anything that's been done in the last 20 years. This is really just the beginnings of what makes it a great film.

It would be like if the Transformers movies, while being what they are, also managed to do an engaging satire of car and military culture, which it doesn't. It's a fucking ad for both.

It's an enduring classic that still holds up to this day.

Sep 6, 2013#83

GasBandit

I'd buy that for a dollar.

Sep 6, 2013#84

Frank

I also don't get dismissing it because there are other great movies released in 1987. 87 was a great year for movies. Do you have a limit on how many movies from a specific year you're allowed to like?

Sep 6, 2013#85

Officer_Charon

After watching the preview, I can see why they went with the black armor, despite the silver looking better. Typical corporate bungling... "Let's go with something tacticool, make it black."

Don't know about him still remembering being Murphy from the outset, though... going to have to see how that plays out.

Like Frank noted, though... I think they've missed the point of the original. Maybe it'll work in the film itself, but it's not looking promising...

Sep 6, 2013#86

Charlie Don't Surf

I don't usually like the whole "judge a movie based on trailer" thing, but GOD ALMIGHTY that looks so fucking bad.

Sep 6, 2013#87

drawn_inward

Frank said:
I also don't get dismissing it because there are other great movies released in 1987. 87 was a great year for movies. Do you have a limit on how many movies from a specific year you're allowed to like?

Absolutely not.

Yes, I have seen it recently (maybe 3 yrs ago). I guess I am not a Verhoven fan. Looking at his films, I haven't liked a single one. I do get what he was doing with his commentary (I didn't understand it when I was a kid and liked it more - go figure). It doesn't amuse or entertain me. It's just like Tarintino's message in Inglorious Basterds. I didn't like that either. Though, Tarintino's message really stuck it to the audience.

I have two buddies that love his (Verhoven) movies. I guess just like them we'll have to agree to disagree.[DOUBLEPOST=1378494522,1378494272][/DOUBLEPOST]

Frank said:
It would be like if the Transformers movies, while being what they are, also managed to do an engaging satire of car and military culture, which it doesn't. It's a fucking ad for both.

I don't like Verhoven, but I'd watch his worst film over Bay's best (sic) film.

Sep 6, 2013#88

Frank

That I understand, not liking a movie considered "good" or whatever. I find myself in similar ways quite often.

Sep 6, 2013#89

Bowielee

Yoshimickster said:
One thing I think looks like it might be interesting is that Murphy's wife seems to interact with him more in his Robocop form than in the original series. In the original movie she was just a flash back, in the second she talked to him once and then never talked to him again , and in the third all we see of her is her running away. Now the first film is excusable, Murphy has hardly any access to his memories of his past life and didn't even identify himself as Murphy but Robocop. By the end of the film he has remembered that he isn't some machine that just gives out orders, but a human being with thoughts and emotions. So in the sequel they should have developed on this more, maybe have him pursue his wife right? Well he stalks her, she asks if he is her husband, he says no, the mean science lady says he's not even a corpse, and then he fights a crazy cyborg drug lord because action is more important than someone trying to reclaim their humanity. If they can address this better in the reboot I may possibly consider being okay with the costume change maybe.

This was actually expanded on quite a bit in the TV series. Which actually wasn't that bad, considering most movie to TV series adaptations.

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