Demographics: Cake vs Pie

[Bowielee]

Pie. Always pie.

 

[Cheesy1]

Bowielee likes pie?! Color me surprised!

 

[Ravenpoe]

Frosting is usually just a mass of sugary goop meant to hide a sub-par cake.

Good cake needs very little (or no) icing. And -good- icing needs very little of itself to be wonderful.

 

[Shakey]

Also, whoever invented fondant needs to be shot. That stuff tastes horrible.

 

[Siska]

Pie. Mainly because I'm not huge on sweet and can have a meat pie. If someone could make a meat cake I might be a bit more inclined towards cakes. As it is, I'm for pie.

Smörgåstårta (Sandwich Cake)

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As far as American style icing goes, I don't like it, AT ALL. I use whipped cream (and lotsa fruit) instead.

 

[figmentPez]

Tremble in fear! The lines between a cake an a pie aren't quite as clear as one might hope.

 

[Shakey]

Still pie! If it has a crust and made in a pie tin, it's pie.

 

[figmentPez]

Still pie! If it has a crust and made in a pie tin, it's pie.

So, what are the defining characteristics of a cake then? Is that shoo fly pie both a pie and a cake?

 

[strawman]

Still pie! If it has a crust and made in a pie tin, it's pie.

Nope. If it is over 50% cake by volume or weight then it's cake.

 

[Gilgamesh]

I don't understand what's so hard about:
Crust = Pie
Frosting = Cake

So yeah, Cheesecake = Pie

 

[Shakey]

So, what are the defining characteristics of a cake then? Is that shoo fly pie both a pie and a cake?

Baked in a cake pan and frosted. I think the name of it says it all.

 

[GasBandit]

You don't have to have frosting to have a cake. Coffee Cake. Pound cake.

 

[strawman]

I don't understand what's so hard about:
Crust = Pie
Frosting = Cake

So yeah, Cheesecake = Pie

A cheesecake pie is a pie. Cheesecake doesn't have to be prepared with a crust to be cheesecake, though, so it doesn't necessarily have to be a pie.

 

[Cheesy1]

Steak is best well-done!
(Oh, sorry. Got caught up in the moment. )

 

[AshburnerX]

You only need to ask yourself one question for this: How many guys have you heard that have... violated a cake?

How many have you heard of that have violated pie? I rest my case.

 

[Eliwood]

How did this thread go this far without this being posted?

 

[figmentPez]

You don't have to have frosting to have a cake. Coffee Cake. Pound cake.

Angelfood cake, pancake, etc.

Also, why limit pies to those baked in pie tins? Hand pies are perfectly valid, and I think there's a better argument for calling a cobbler made with a completely enclosing crust a pie than there is for calling a crumb-topped apple dessert a pie, even if it's baked in a pie tin and has a bottom crust.

Oh, and here: Tarte Tatin a tart that's baked like a cake, turned upside down and becomes a tart.

Also, where do we draw the line? A pasty is obviously a pie. Thus, so is an empanada. However, is a potsticker a pie? Ravioli? What about a baozi? They're filling completely enclosing in a wrapper, but they're not made with pastry. However, a crumb crust doesn't completely enclose, and it's still counted as a pie.

Trying to categorize food is pretty damn futile.

 

[Ravenpoe]

Angelfood cake, pancake, etc.

Also, why limit pies to those baked in pie tins? Hand pies are perfectly valid, and I think there's a better argument for calling a cobbler made with a completely enclosing crust a pie than there is for calling a crumb-topped apple dessert a pie, even if it's baked in a pie tin and has a bottom crust.

Oh, and here: Tarte Tatin a tart that's baked like a cake, turned upside down and becomes a tart.

Also, where do we draw the line? A pasty is obviously a pie. Thus, so is an empanada. However, is a potsticker a pie? Ravioli? What about a baozi? They're filling completely enclosing in a wrapper, but they're not made with pastry. However, a crumb crust doesn't completely enclose, and it's still counted as a pie.

Trying to categorize food is pretty damn futile.

Shut up and post some pie.

Or cake, if you roll that way.

 

[bhamv3]

Clarification: Are we talking about eating, or about throwing at people's faces? Because pies are better for throwing.

 

[Cajungal]

As much as I loooove cake, when I assess the entire experience, I have to say pie. It's delicious, it's more fun for me to make, and I feel less "gross" after pie. Cake just makes me want to nap forever. Also, crawfish hand pies are beautiful things.

 

[Terrik]

Go pie or go home.


Barbarians.

 

[Gared]

I can make my favorite pie, and have done so several times. I cannot make my favorite cake, therefore, cake.

 

[Sparhawk]

Cake, because.

Yeah, just because.

Okay, so I'm basing this on being a dessert option. Meat Pies, though called a pie, are a savory and considered a meal in itself, not a dessert. I love meat pies, of a Natchitoches variety.

 

[klew]

Pie, and if Alton Brown says cheesecake is a pie, it is a pie (go to 1m15s).

 

[DarkAudit]

If The King says it's pie, it's pie.

 

[LordRendar]

Cakes all the way. Pies are for peasants.

 

[Fun Size]

Also, whoever invented fondant needs to be shot. That stuff tastes horrible.

You know, I felt the same way, but my wife, in an effort to keep us rated as the coolest parents my kids know, started to figure out how to make it so we could further fancify cakes, and the vegan stuff she makes when used with a thin crumb coat of frosting is way better than the inch of frosting I see on most cakes.

That said - pie is still better.

 

[drawn_inward]

I certainly won't turn down some cake, but I'd rather have pie. Pie a la mode is better than cake a la mode so pie is better.

Also, chicken pot pie is great, and so are empanadas (portable pie in my book).

 

[Eriol]

Pie, and if Alton Brown says cheesecake is a pie, it is a pie (go to 1m15s).

To summarize what Alton said, cheesecake is a custard pie (or cream pie if you prefer), with a bit different structure as most of the dairy. It is by no definition cake. Still good, but not cake.

Cake's more versatile. Pie is awesome too, but cake trumps it.

 

[filmfanatic]

Pie a la mode is better than cake a la mode so pie is better.

That's why there's ice cream cake.

Another point towards the superiority of cake (not that pie's bad or anything, it's good, but it's not cake).

 

[Fun Size]

You know what the best kind of cake is?

Boston Creme Pie.

 

[GasBandit]

You know what the best kind of cake is?

Buck cake?

(nsfw)

 

[Cajungal]

Relevant:

 

[Eriol]

Relevant:

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Scroll up. Same page.

 

[PatrThom]

I agree, there's usually too much icing on a cake for my taste and I end up scraping most of it off.

SO. MUCH. BROFIST.

--Patrick