In this thread I have a comprehensive list of good halloween costume ideas incorporating blackface
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I get it!
This thread brought to you by a thread I saw on another forum where someone honestly asked "Is wearing blackface for a halloween costume offensive?"
I've done it again
Thought you would post this:
Last week there was a photoset making the rounds of three idiots on Facebook and their Halloween get-up: a cop, a lady, and a shot guy in blackface.
Par the course, one of them made comments "I'm not a racist" and "white people are better" within the same day.
BUT NO BOOBS FACEBOOK NOPE THAT'S HARMFUL
Par the course, one of them made comments "I'm not a racist" and "white people are better" within the same day.
BUT NO BOOBS FACEBOOK NOPE THAT'S HARMFUL
Also actress Julianne Hough is in trouble for black/brownface too
I love all the stories that come out about people getting fired over this shit. I saw a Trayvon Martin / Zimmerman thing that got in trouble / fired, and another thing with people as Asiana Airlines injured pilots
I love all the stories that come out about people getting fired over this shit. I saw a Trayvon Martin / Zimmerman thing that got in trouble / fired, and another thing with people as Asiana Airlines injured pilots
figmentPez
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Congrats on making fun of something that is still an actual issue
not to mention equating people of color to dogs
Not even an Al Jolson costume?
I'm not going to watch that fat white guy talk for seven minutes, are you saying you think blackface is okay, gasbandit?
As a fat guy, I'm offended that you choose to label and judge him by his physical appearance rather than his opinions or ideas.
GasBandit
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More of a commentary on the whole "this is not who I am and this is not OK" thing.
But I'm tempted to say yes just to tweak you. Maybe I should go as Mr. Popo for halloween.
Pecking order.
Well, the reason they changed jynx to purple to begin with is because it was pretty racist.
Well, that's what started this discussion. Some celebrities dressed as the characters from Orange is the New Black, and Julianne Hough dressed as Crazy Eyes, a black character.
If I didn't know the news story, I'd have thought she was supposed to be that tanning addicted mom that was in the news.
For characters where the skin color doesn't matter to their characterization, sure. But there are characters where the race or skin color is an integral part of the character, and the costume wouldn't be interesting or recognizable without also matching the skin color.
Of course in our intolerant society, this isn't allowed without being called a racist.
So until our society becomes more tolerant, don't do it unless you're prepared to be considered racist by intolerant people like Charlie.
Of course in our intolerant society, this isn't allowed without being called a racist.
So until our society becomes more tolerant, don't do it unless you're prepared to be considered racist by intolerant people like Charlie.
Well, the other side of the argument is that most frequently black characters are mainly defined by being black, as opppsed to white characters that have many more defining characteristics. I don't know if that says anything about the racism of the person wearing a costume, but it certainly speaks about the racism of society.
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Call it out specifically and help us all understand better when and in what way we are being racist.
I did make fun of Charlie, but I think in this day and age it should be clear that going in blackface is a bad idea. Even if you don't think its racist, there are enough people that do that you should know its not ok. To me its one of those things that even if you disagree with it, its not worth taking a stand over.
You're seriously trying to equate finding blackface offensive to intolerance? I think you need to look up some of those definitions because I don't think you understand what some of those words mean. I'd highly recommend you look up the history of blackface and minstrel shows as a way of perpetuating racist stereotypes.
Gasbandit's little video has one of the most horrible hyperbolic arguments imaginable. "There's tons of other problems in the world, so racism isn't a big deal"
And, you know what, I've finally decided that I've had enough. I'm not engaging you or GB in anything anymore.
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To me it sounds more like insensitivity than racism.
"Racism" is an easy card to through out. it throws your opponent into defensive mode--or if they aren't having any of that--"confirms" the preconceived notion that that person is indeed a bigoted racist swine-dog that deserves your scorn.
It has come to the point in political discourse that the world only makes my eyes roll into the back of my head because you almost instinctively know the conversation is going downhill from there.
It has come to the point in political discourse that the world only makes my eyes roll into the back of my head because you almost instinctively know the conversation is going downhill from there.
GasBandit
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You know, a Trayvon Martin halloween costume is in poor taste either with or without blackface, because he was a 17 year old boy who didn't have to die, and the events of and after his death caused lots of anguish for his family and many who identified with his situation. Is there a lot of racism surrounding this? Yes. But let's not forget that most of the "racism" concern was artificially injected by a media and "Race tension industry" that was eager to whitewash a latino and tamper with evidence to better fit the narrative they wanted. Yes, racism is a problem, and it's worse than it was 10 years ago - a great deal thanks to those who claim to be fighting it hardest.
It also always makes me shake my head how I'm willing to discuss any topic with any person, from the most syrupy Kags to the most Charlie Charlie, no matter how abhorrent I may find someone's opinion. But there's just always people who just can't deal with opinions and mindsets that don't exactly match theirs and shut down communication. Ironically these are also most often those who preach tolerance and openness (and consider themselves the most tolerant and open), but the actions don't suit the words. The "there's no reasoning with them, so why even try" crowd has always been present throughout history, and they make an excellent source of footsoldiery to bolster the ranks of those who have done the most harm to their fellow man.
But take heart, Bowie, you might refuse to engage me, for whatever phoney baloney reason, but I'll always be open to engage you.
It also always makes me shake my head how I'm willing to discuss any topic with any person, from the most syrupy Kags to the most Charlie Charlie, no matter how abhorrent I may find someone's opinion. But there's just always people who just can't deal with opinions and mindsets that don't exactly match theirs and shut down communication. Ironically these are also most often those who preach tolerance and openness (and consider themselves the most tolerant and open), but the actions don't suit the words. The "there's no reasoning with them, so why even try" crowd has always been present throughout history, and they make an excellent source of footsoldiery to bolster the ranks of those who have done the most harm to their fellow man.
But take heart, Bowie, you might refuse to engage me, for whatever phoney baloney reason, but I'll always be open to engage you.