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Huh. Here I thought we had finally reached a point where I don't mind telling people about the place. A lot of the forum drama is gone and there has been a whole lot more respect for other posters than any other time in the forum since I've joined. Character sniping is at a minimum and if people get upset, they're generally fairly receptive when it's pointed out to them they may have gone a bit overboard.

Long story short, never has the forum been as inviting as it is now.
 
As always, I'm late to the party... and not in the "I'm cool because I'm coming to the party late" way either. Somebody said it back near the front of this thread, by the time I get here, I feel that I really don't have anything to add to the conversation. I'm not saying that input isn't welcome, but that the conversation has wandered away from what I'm catching up with from the day. I have no internet at work (it's retail, go figure) and really don't go browsing the new threads/posts page too often, honestly just to keep my personal time a little more streamlined.

We seem to be growing up a little as a forum, becoming a little more mature in our interaction with each other. We'll never be able to answer everyone's questions about our history or in-jokes, even with the family I've been married into for almost 25 years there are still things that are said that I can't tell you the history of it. It's just one of those things.

I do still feel a little like an outsider looking in at times, but that, for me, is probably because I'm at a much different stage of my life than the majority here. Dave is a little older than I am, but I've been married longer than he has, tie your brain around that one with the "old" jokes. The flappy hooties are still all his though.

I share stuff from here with my wife (not so much with the daughter), and she understands that this is a little family that few have met face-to-face.

Really not sure where I'm going with this, mostly a bunch of slightly related thoughts that are being typed as they come to my mind.
 
Sounds like we need... a general... a... UNION MASTER!!!!!!!!!!!




GOOD PEOPLE! YOUR CHAZWOZEL HAS RETURNED! NOW LET'S BAG OURSELVES A BUNCH OF NEW BASTARDS! FOR THE UNNNNNNIIIIIIOOOONNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!


Don't mind me, I'm just old and confused anymore.
 
Honestly, the only thing that keeps me from posting more these days, is the fact that I'm actually busy working at work now, instead of having a bunch of time to sit around and do nothing.
 
Sounds like we need... a general... a... UNION MASTER!!!!!!!!!!!




GOOD PEOPLE! YOUR CHAZWOZEL HAS RETURNED! NOW LET'S BAG OURSELVES A BUNCH OF NEW BASTARDS! FOR THE UNNNNNNIIIIIIOOOONNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!


Don't mind me, I'm just old and confused anymore.
Bling grill sharks back! Citizens rejoice!
 
Avoided this thread because I never felt I had the time to post what I wanted.
Finally posting anyway because I'm never going to have all the time I want.

@Dave if this forum ever becomes a financial burden, say so. I'm sure my financial problems border on legend around here, but even *I* can spare $20/yr (in 12 easy payments of $1.67) without too much trouble, which is an easy grand when repeated by at least 50 active users. Cost should not be an issue.

Post count may be falling, population may be declining...but I just don't see it. I routinely have more fresh threads than I can keep up with (checking 3-6x/day) and don't see this as a problem.

What is our identity? Our "brand?" We don't have one. Get used to it. We do not need to hitch our wagon to anyone else's notoriety to survive, we are our own entity.
I am often asked at work, "What forum is that? What's it about?" I reply that we have no particular focus, and people just look at me strangely, as though the idea of a forum without focus were foreign somehow, an affront before God, or whatever. Actually, what has happened is that we formed an online society. We're a bit ahead of our time, though. Even Facebook is more of a BBS when compared to our virtual township. To give you some idea of how *I* view this board, I made some serious effort (even beyond privately asking the advice of other forum members) to discover whether it would be feasible to create a Halforums credit union. We share a common bond, no question there, but it quickly became obvious that the regulations and requirements would be too high of a hurdle even if we were to seriously pursue it via the proper agencies. Not impossible, mind you, just extremely unlikely.

Now, for the wall of text.
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I joined this forum a long time ago to talk about a webcomic, no doubt moved to comment by some awful pun or grammatical error which pushed me far enough over the edge that I absolutely had to create an account and tell someone about it.

When the webcomic's "sponsorship" was pulled, we were left with no clear theme, so we just ended up talking amongst ourselves. I saw myself as a member, nothing more. Over quite a bit of time, I built a reputation of sorts. I interjected a comment or two. I substantiated someone else's comment with a handy link. I got an avatar (and even that took a loooong time before I finally did so), and I'm sure that's probably when I went from being a faceless lurker dude to some sort of semi-recognizeable individual. As in real life, when someone tried to cut me down for something (real or imagined), I either refuted their claim with research and facts, or else ignored/redirected it if I thought it was spurious. I tried hard not to be an idiot or a jackass (made easier since I'm neither in real life), but I was still in awe of other Halforum members who were obvious pillars of the community such as @Dave, @JCM, @GasBandit, @Gusto, and others. I was surrounded by people who have better jobs, more artistic talent, a deeper understanding of mathematics, a heroic lifestyle, an idyllic home life, or whatever, while I was just a guy sitting on the floor of my living room in front of a 5yr-old computer propped up on milk crates, eating microwaved brown-n-serve sausages off a salad plate while skimming through the new threads. But I stuck around. I'm stubborn like that.

And I got accepted (or at least any attempts to drive me away petered out). And then I started to build a real reputation. I often tell people, "Only people who don't know me think that I'm boring." As time went on, I got more bold about sharing my opinions, and got to feel more comfortable, more belong-y. At some point, someone made the mistake of asking for advice in some topic where I'm proficient, and I caught fire and got noticed for it. Much like the heap paradox, there's no clear division as to where it happened, but at some point I became a part of "us." Valued. Integral.

Here's the thing, though. I don't feel like I'm some sort of Inner Circle poobah, some sort of forum linchpin. In fact, I feel apprehensive even typing the previous sentence suggesting that I might be one, since I feel like if *I* were to die tomorrow, the forum would probably notice me missing, and some people might talk about it for a bit, but after a brief period, business would resume as usual. This is not some attempt to solicit affirmation, either. Rather it is a statement of how I feel my place is when compared against someone who really is one of those linchpins. I mean, I'm no @North_Ranger (nor do I feel I ever will be, either). No, that guy was a f*ckin' Corinthian column carved from stacked red granite blocks quarried straight out of Lieto, and I doubt anyone here would disagree.

Have any of you ever been on vacation, and went into a bar recommended by the locals? You walk in, everyone looks up at you, the bar pauses for a split second...and then everyone goes back to what they were doing. Your first thought is probably, "The bar has evaluated me, and found me wanting," but you gotta remember: Everyone probably has their own reason. Some were merely curious and returned to whatever they were doing once they were satisfied. Some probably checked you out and either dismissed you or else made plans to get a closer look when the opportunity presents itself. If you buy your drink, keep to yourself, and then leave, then you'll never know which people are the regulars, the drunks, the sports fans, the car nuts, etc. I imagine that's what it's like for outsiders here. You generally don't come in here unless you stumble across it somehow or get recommended by someone. You might get turned off and leave. You might get challenged and allow yourself to be chased off. Honestly, we probably don't want those folks anyway. Or you might stay, either to lurk for a while and take our measure or because you saw something that elicited an emotional response from you so strong that you felt compelled to register an account right away in order to tell someone about it.

It happens. Let it.

--Patrick
 
I've totally felt like part of the in-crowd ever since I joined, back when we were on the Image boards.

And I'm not saying that in jest, either. I feel you guys are quite welcoming, accommodating, and on the whole very intelligent.
 
Shut the fuck up, bhamv.[DOUBLEPOST=1386155715,1386155666][/DOUBLEPOST]It shouldn't need mentioning that the previous was in jest. But just in case, I keed. @bhamv is a cool cat.
 
Sounds like we need... a general... a... UNION MASTER!!!!!!!!!!!




GOOD PEOPLE! YOUR CHAZWOZEL HAS RETURNED! NOW LET'S BAG OURSELVES A BUNCH OF NEW BASTARDS! FOR THE UNNNNNNIIIIIIOOOONNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!


Don't mind me, I'm just old and confused anymore.
Literally the only time I am capable of missing Mav is when I think about that thread.
 
Mav wasn't all bad. I remember talking about lost a lot with him. I wouldn't mind seeing him around again if he could calm down a bit.
 
Aw, I thought the link would take me to the first time Mathias started the union thing. That shit was hilarious.
It is, but it seems that those posts have been removed by the Ministry of Truth.[DOUBLEPOST=1386176377,1386176294][/DOUBLEPOST]
Mav wasn't all bad. I remember talking about lost a lot with him. I wouldn't mind seeing him around again if he could calm down a bit.
And stop hating women? Or anyone who didn't believe that his life was just one series of injustices exacted against him, specifically, after another?
 
And stop hating women? Or anyone who didn't believe that his life was just one series of injustices exacted against him, specifically, after another?
That's what I meant by calm down. He was ok when he wasn't going crazy.

I think he was a mod for the original NSFW forum only.
 
That's what I meant by calm down. He was ok when he wasn't going crazy.

I think he was a mod for the original NSFW forum only.
I admit, I did not like him, and probably only remember the awful since it completes my biased picture nicely. I'm sure he wasn't all bad - no one is. And besides that, it does me nor anyone else any good to dwell on negativity.
 
I wonder if that guy ever learned to chill?

I think the sites doing fine although I kind of liked the drama. It was cool when there was games of cards against humanity going a few months back. Having more stuff like that going on would spice things up. I get that offline life can make it difficult to co-ordinate though. Don't feel like I'm part of the in crowd but I haven't been posting nearly as long as I lurked. I think I've posted enough that some of you might find me quasi familiar especially to the good folks on the hockey board. Anyhoo I'm glad the sites around and I'm grateful to Dave and all the mods who keep it running so well.
 
As a mostly lurker, and certainly not of the average demographic for the forum, I visit the forum daily and enjoy the various threads. My feeling is that we (!) are in a pretty healthy state and think that any changes should be minimal. That's my two penny (Cents, Yen, Euros, Whatever.) worth.
 
I think many of us aren't quite sure how to talk to you, @LilKagsin , for fear of coming off as internet creepers *wry chuckle* Social anxiety/awkwardness has a place on the internet, when you actually care about what the other person has to say. Who knew?
I find this kind of thing to be a problem for me in real life. I generally avoid talking to or making eye contact with people, particularly women and children, for fear that I'll come across as a non-specific form of "That guy." I'll take the long way around a store aisle if going the direct way to what I want involves excusing my way passed a woman with child in cart. I'll alter my jogging route if I notice someone in my neighborhood is usually out in their yard that particular time of day so as to avoid having them see me pass their house every morning. I absolutely will not look in the general direction of a woman in the gym or wait and start a line at an occupied machine, even if it's the last one I really wanted to use for that day. I've gone entire semesters in classes never saying a word to the girl sitting next to me.

Once I do break the ice with somebody I'm fully comfortable talking to them and engaging in social situations with them. But otherwise, I'm usually in "I'll look like I'm creeping on this person if I try to make any interaction" mode.

As for how this translates to my interactions on the forum, I oft feel like I'm one of those who don't have anything particular to contribute to a conversation, or that my contribution would be ignored or unwelcome. The logical side of my brain informs me how irrational it is, yet those fears guide my actions a lot more than I would like, anyway. This problem seems to have gotten worse for me the last few years; just the other day I did a presentation for one of my classes, and I was surprised and just how frozen and nervous I felt standing in front as the center of attention. This is something 4 years ago I had zero issue doing in other classes, and I'm not entirely sure what's changed other than a general lowering of self esteem. It's something I just need to personally work at and improve myself on.

tl;dr:
Forums be full of socially awkward bitches, yo.
 

Dave

Staff member
I find this kind of thing to be a problem for me in real life. I generally avoid talking to or making eye contact with people, particularly women and children, for fear that I'll come across as a non-specific form of "That guy." I'll take the long way around a store aisle if going the direct way to what I want involves excusing my way passed a woman with child in cart. I'll alter my jogging route if I notice someone in my neighborhood is usually out in their yard that particular time of day so as to avoid having them see me pass their house every morning. I absolutely will not look in the general direction of a woman in the gym or wait and start a line at an occupied machine, even if it's the last one I really wanted to use for that day. I've gone entire semesters in classes never saying a word to the girl sitting next to me.

Once I do break the ice with somebody I'm fully comfortable talking to them and engaging in social situations with them. But otherwise, I'm usually in "I'll look like I'm creeping on this person if I try to make any interaction" mode.

As for how this translates to my interactions on the forum, I oft feel like I'm one of those who don't have anything particular to contribute to a conversation, or that my contribution would be ignored or unwelcome. The logical side of my brain informs me how irrational it is, yet those fears guide my actions a lot more than I would like, anyway. This problem seems to have gotten worse for me the last few years; just the other day I did a presentation for one of my classes, and I was surprised and just how frozen and nervous I felt standing in front as the center of attention. This is something 4 years ago I had zero issue doing in other classes, and I'm not entirely sure what's changed other than a general lowering of self esteem. It's something I just need to personally work at and improve myself on.

tl;dr:
Forums be full of socially awkward bitches, yo.
We love you, David. Go nuts.
 
I love this place. It gives me a chance to be a nerd, gush about doomweasels and rant about taking over the world*. I mean, where could I do that without a bunch of people telling me to :stfu:?

I love you guys. Please don't change.

*Speaking of taking over the world, what do you think about a bull moose calvary?
 
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