[Movies] Dammit, Frozen (spoilers)
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Here's a fun "the trolls are dicks" thing I read today:
Usually trolls are depicted in fantasy films as evil, but probably none of us batted an eye at their kinder depiction here because it's a Disney film, so that kind of thing happens. BUT trolls in the folklore for the northern regions where this movie takes place typically view trolls as kidnappers of children who would sometimes replace those children with changelings. Some of us assumed Kristof was the child of one of the ice harvesters during the opening song, until he mentions that it was just him and Sven until the trolls take them in. Except he's just a kid--it seems unlikely he would've been out there with tools and sled on his own. The movie never shows he and Sven having been alone when they were young; he says that, long after he's been adopted the troll who says she's going to "keep them". And it's established at the beginning that the trolls have the power to mess with memories. They could've easily made Kristof and Sven remember being alone until the trolls, even if the truth was different. Kristof's real father might have just lost track of his son out on the ice and gone searching for him, never knowing he'd been taken by trolls.
Usually trolls are depicted in fantasy films as evil, but probably none of us batted an eye at their kinder depiction here because it's a Disney film, so that kind of thing happens. BUT trolls in the folklore for the northern regions where this movie takes place typically view trolls as kidnappers of children who would sometimes replace those children with changelings. Some of us assumed Kristof was the child of one of the ice harvesters during the opening song, until he mentions that it was just him and Sven until the trolls take them in. Except he's just a kid--it seems unlikely he would've been out there with tools and sled on his own. The movie never shows he and Sven having been alone when they were young; he says that, long after he's been adopted the troll who says she's going to "keep them". And it's established at the beginning that the trolls have the power to mess with memories. They could've easily made Kristof and Sven remember being alone until the trolls, even if the truth was different. Kristof's real father might have just lost track of his son out on the ice and gone searching for him, never knowing he'd been taken by trolls.
That's fucking awesome.
lol grumpy cat!!!!!
That would explain so much.
Not the best Disney flick I've seen, but I liked it and was singing "Let it go" all the way home. I agree that a lot of the songs were shoehorned in(troll song being the most forgettable) , and yeah Weaseltown guy was a red herring but I like red herrings so I'm okay with it.
Now I knew Hans was evil the moment I looked at him and thought "Oh man I'm gonna wanna punch this guy in the face the end of this aren't I?" And sure enough- ANNA PUNCHES HIM IN THE FACE! That was fun.
BananaHands
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Frozen was okay. Seemed rushed. I think it would have been better if they dropped the dude with the moose and just had Hans tag along until the end with a big reveal that he's actually some character from Game of Thrones in terms to evil crap.
But I agree with @Gusto in that this was no Tangled. Tangled was amazing.
But I agree with @Gusto in that this was no Tangled. Tangled was amazing.
http://io9.com/cast-of-frozen-sings-for-fans-live-and-heres-why-th-1520159957
Frozen cast sings live!
<3 Idina <3
Also, this article:
https://medium.com/disney-and-animation/7c0bbc7252ef
Someone who absolutely hated the film. Interesting perspective.
I don't think I ever gave my $0.02 about the movie...
Anyway, taking Twiggy and our niece to see the movie tonight since neither has seen it, and we want to spend more time with this niece. 
Frozen cast sings live!
<3 Idina <3
Also, this article:
https://medium.com/disney-and-animation/7c0bbc7252ef
Someone who absolutely hated the film. Interesting perspective.
I don't think I ever gave my $0.02 about the movie...
I thought it was fun, but I don't know why everyone is going crazy over this movie. Visually, it was amazingly beautiful. I'm not crazy about 3D (I'd much rather watch a movie in 2D than 3D) but this was absolutely stunning.
The plot was alright. Olaf wasn't nearly as obnoxious as I thought he would be. I thought for sure he would ruin the entire film.
I thought it was bizarre that Kristoff never mentioned seeing Anna when she was a kid. Also weird that Anna never found out about what happened when she and Elsa were kids.
Songs were 'meh'. I LOVED "Let It Go" but the other songs were just okay. I thought the music was "Tangled" was better.
I guessed that Hans was bad, and also guessed the ending of the movie from the start. Also guessed Olaf's ending. This didn't ruin the movie for me by any means... I tend to keep guesses to myself and it's just fun when I'm right. :3 (I do the same thing with books... And actually I'm rarely correct with my guesses.)
The trolls were completely useless...
Not a bad movie by any means, and I will probably buy it at some point, but I'm just not gaga about it like most of my friends seem to be. Loving the Elsa cosplays though!
The plot was alright. Olaf wasn't nearly as obnoxious as I thought he would be. I thought for sure he would ruin the entire film.
I thought it was bizarre that Kristoff never mentioned seeing Anna when she was a kid. Also weird that Anna never found out about what happened when she and Elsa were kids.
Songs were 'meh'. I LOVED "Let It Go" but the other songs were just okay. I thought the music was "Tangled" was better.
I guessed that Hans was bad, and also guessed the ending of the movie from the start. Also guessed Olaf's ending. This didn't ruin the movie for me by any means... I tend to keep guesses to myself and it's just fun when I'm right. :3 (I do the same thing with books... And actually I'm rarely correct with my guesses.)
The trolls were completely useless...
Not a bad movie by any means, and I will probably buy it at some point, but I'm just not gaga about it like most of my friends seem to be. Loving the Elsa cosplays though!
Hey now, this is Halforums. They're never useless, we love them all!
Some of the boys in my son's class (him included) have taken to singing "Let it go! Let it go! Until the toilet overflows!"
Someone indicated they can't hear the song anymore without laughing at how well it applies to farting.
...
The wind is howling like this swirling storm inside
Couldn’t keep it in, heaven knows I tried
Don’t let them in, don’t let them see
Be the good girl you always have to be
Conceal, don’t feel, don’t let them know
Well, now they know
Let it go, let it go
Can’t hold it back anymore
Let it go, let it go
Turn away and slam the door
...
and so forth.
...
The wind is howling like this swirling storm inside
Couldn’t keep it in, heaven knows I tried
Don’t let them in, don’t let them see
Be the good girl you always have to be
Conceal, don’t feel, don’t let them know
Well, now they know
Let it go, let it go
Can’t hold it back anymore
Let it go, let it go
Turn away and slam the door
...
and so forth.
Just... wow. Conspiracy Theory - Frozen turns kids gay?
What?! We need to contact the proper authorities! Alert the media! THIS IS NOT A DRILL, PEOPLE!
Bee-do! Bee-do! Bee-do! Bee-do! Bee-do! Bee-do!
Pretty sure gay kids were able to find Frozen on their own, if Tumblr is any indication.
TeamFourStar has gotten in on the parody bandwagon with "Do You Want to Kill a Planet?".
http://teamfourstar.com/video/want-kill-planet-frozen-parody-3/
http://teamfourstar.com/video/want-kill-planet-frozen-parody-3/
I didn't even have to watch the video. I started laughing as soon as the still loaded.
Despite the fact that it's going to turn all my boys gay, we snagged a copy of it at Target last night. They only had a handful of the blueray version left, and if we had waited until today we would likely not have been able to get one. Target added a DVD to the shrink wrap with a few extra special features. Doubt they'll be anything particularly interesting, but who knows.
Amazon still has it in stock though.
And here I am sitting in the clerks office at church, listening to a few young women singing songs from Frozen in the foyer. I'm impressed, you have to have pretty good range to sing Anna's first time in forever song and then switch to Kristoph's reindeer song...
Surprised they aren't releasing a 3D blueray version. I guess they're splitting it up so they can make the 3D fanatics pay twice? Probably something more mundane like a desire to reprocess the movie for better home 3D or something. Still, the capitalist squeeze theory appeals to me.
Amazon still has it in stock though.
And here I am sitting in the clerks office at church, listening to a few young women singing songs from Frozen in the foyer. I'm impressed, you have to have pretty good range to sing Anna's first time in forever song and then switch to Kristoph's reindeer song...
Surprised they aren't releasing a 3D blueray version. I guess they're splitting it up so they can make the 3D fanatics pay twice? Probably something more mundane like a desire to reprocess the movie for better home 3D or something. Still, the capitalist squeeze theory appeals to me.
Zappit
Staff member
Frozen is gay propaganda? Oh, fer...Honestly, if I ever get a genie, wish 1 is that that sort of willful, over dramatic ignorance causes taste buds to grow in one's anus.
Yeah, then everything is twisted. That Aslan lion that crowd likes? Encourages bestiality AND suicide. The Wizard of Oz? Atheist propaganda: Oz, a metaphor for God, is revealed as a phony. See? We can play that game, too.
Yeah, then everything is twisted. That Aslan lion that crowd likes? Encourages bestiality AND suicide. The Wizard of Oz? Atheist propaganda: Oz, a metaphor for God, is revealed as a phony. See? We can play that game, too.
but Narnia is actually Christian propaganda
Zappit
Staff member
That's what C.S. Lewis WANTED you to think.
More Frozen (and Disney) stuff - The "Secret" 'Frozen'-'Tangled'-'Mermaid' Connection and Other Disney Conspiracy Theories
#1) I'd heard about the first part (Rapunzel/Eugene in Frozen), but not the Little Mermaid part and the part that the parents from Frozen going to the Tangled celebration does make some sense.
#2) Possible - a little out there.
#3) Again heard of, not surprising, somewhat out there, but less than #2.
Not so sure about #4 and 5, they seem a little bit more out there than #2.
#1) I'd heard about the first part (Rapunzel/Eugene in Frozen), but not the Little Mermaid part and the part that the parents from Frozen going to the Tangled celebration does make some sense.
#2) Possible - a little out there.
#3) Again heard of, not surprising, somewhat out there, but less than #2.
Not so sure about #4 and 5, they seem a little bit more out there than #2.
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