also you're completely and utterly ignoring the facts and/or obviously haven't read one word about what's going on -
There's a huge fucking gulf between "nothing at all" and a thousand top-of-the-line million dollar missiles. I could give two fucks if you think I'm a decent human being while you gloss over dozens of women and children being slaughtered. If you want to make shitty analogies, if someone smacks your foot with a whiffleball bat, do you empty a magnum into their face?
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everybody read this post really slowly out loud to yourself.
First up, the US stop sending them billions of dollars of aid. Then have the UN condemn Israel as war criminals and all that good stuff.
That will only occur after Palestine is re-established according to how Hamas sees that happening. Because everybody Jewish will be DEAD. Until Hamas' charter changes, that's what will happen.
Yeah, I mean, all terrorism problems end either with the terrorists winning or with all of them dead or in prison.
Ideally, you should have no trouble convincing anyone of this...unless they are Israeli or Palestinian, of course.
And that seems to be the issue. Two political extremes who want to either wipe out, destroy or force submission upon the other. There's no simple answer other than either side getting exactly what it wants. And thats no solution.
I'm pretty sure you just described Congress.
Hamas has it in its charter that their struggle is between Islam and Judaism. And to kill every Jew in what they consider their territory, and that giving up even a piece of it is renouncing Islam. (That's even without searching hard)
Not to mention the last time there was a big sit down, everything that palestine demanded was granted them in the final document, and Arafat still refused to sign it because it would remove their casus belli.
Iraq was a pretty important ally once as well. Not saying it's the same but we can't excuse the actions of our allies out of fear of offending them. In fact its the exact opposite, if they want us to keep supporting them as allies they need to stop the settlements.[DOUBLEPOST=1405113302][/DOUBLEPOST]It's a borderline privateer system currently.
Yeah, not so sure about this. Israel has a pretty strong history of barely prosecuting settlers. Sure, if there's some really obvious murder then they will go after it, but they don't really do much to protect the Palestinians. I don't think people really understand how nasty the issue with settlers is.[DOUBLEPOST=1405113856,1405113678][/DOUBLEPOST]
Even that editorial says that half of the settlements are considered illegal by the Israeli government. Even if you are willing to excuse the "legal" settlements, there is no excuse for the wildcat settlements, and Israels tacit approval of them.[DOUBLEPOST=1405113971][/DOUBLEPOST]And don't get me wrong. I have nothing against occupation really. It's the settlements that are messed up.[DOUBLEPOST=1405114048][/DOUBLEPOST]As someone who is big on property rights I am really surprised to see you backing the settlements.
As far as I know, the settlements aren't displacing anyone, it's just that they're where a non-sovereign nation says they can't be. It's not a property rights issue unless the land is actually someone's property.
Sovereign vs Non.
Palestine is a de facto client state of ever decreasing legitimacy. Do your kids agree with everything you decide for them?
Even with those faults, is it worse than "if you're not muslim we want you dead"? There are plenty of Arabs in Israel that are part of normal society. Yes, the hardcore conservative Jews cause some shitty stuff to be allowed, but to call Israel one of the worst countries in the world like Charlie has done is absurd.
Nope. The Palestinians don't encourage civilians to get hit by missiles. Not at all...
