[Movies] Guardians of the Galaxy

I'll be that person. Serenity wasn't a good movie. This is not coming from a CDS "Whedon is terrible" stance. Compared to Firefly it's weak, tonally off, and one of its most talked about moments (River) is pretty much a swerve out of left field. Plus the genre breaking explanation of the reavers was really unneeded. On it's own apart from the show I don't think it holds up, and am not sure what's in it for someone to latch on to if it's their first exposure.

In short. I did not like it, and think it's horribly overrated.
I am that person you're wondering about--Serenity was my first exposure to that universe. I hadn't seen a single episode of the show. And when I saw it, I thought it was cool adventure in an interesting setting with fun characters. I was able to follow it easily and glean stuff about the relationships, though I only knew what little about each character could be shown in the span of the movie. All in all, pretty positive response and I watched it several times on DVD.

Then, years later, my wife and I had Netflix, saw Firefly was on there, and decided to watch through that. By episode 3, our attitude was "wow, fuck Fox". Finished the series and then decided to wrap it up with Serenity.

Suddenly, Serenity wasn't all that good. Now I knew who everyone was, their backgrounds, what had happened to them before, and the movie just wasn't that good. The Mr. Universe thing that I thought was an okay informant character came off as forced. The pacing was terrible, though Shawnacy is on the mark as to why--every 10 minute section would've been a 45 minute episode. What had been a couple of unfortunate deaths became inappropriate in how they were handled for characters who had been so strong previously. I can't blame my wife for crying when Serenity crashes. And sadly, the implications of the end hint at greater things to come that will never come.

So, good if you've never watched Firefly, disappointing if you have.[DOUBLEPOST=1407778669,1407778595][/DOUBLEPOST]
I think some elements of the seasons that could have been are covered in the comics, but if I remember correctly the government basically marks the Serenity crew as traitors and a whole new level of shit goes down for them.
Not to mention, the government's standing is weakened.

Serenity's condensed story was season 2 of a seven season plan. I only wish we knew what the rest of that might have been.
 
The gasp after Rocket berated Drax for bemoaning his dead family was a close runner up.
"Oh boo hoo! My wife and child are dead! I don't care if it's mean. Everybody's got dead people!"

As an aside, I hope this movie doesn't lead to thousands of idiots abducting raccoons as pets. They're the morons who buy yellow labs (Marley & Me), dalmatians (101 Dalmatians), and chihuahuas (Beverly Hills Chihuahua) whenever they see those breeds in a popular movie or TV show.
 
Steve Gerber would have laughed himself to death the second he heard Disney bought Marvel, considering they were one of the reasons he had to redesign Howard into Leonard.
He drew Donald and put a cigar in his mouth.
I can't say Disney's concern wasn't justified.
 
Because my personal life is so controlled by my wife I have asked her to let me know when would be the best opportunity to see Guardians of the Galaxy on my own since I was unable to see the entire film when the baby started crying.


I expect to see it when it comes out on DVD.
Not for nothing, but didn't you JUST get married. Seems awfully fast for you to be this bitter about it.
 
Not for nothing, but didn't you JUST get married. Seems awfully fast for you to be this bitter about it.
Judging from the past troubles he's shared around that same subject, no it isn't.

Although, just throwing that out there for @Shawnacy, you're a grown ass man, you can go to the movies whenever you want.
 
That's generally still well within the "honeymoon period".
The honeymoon period nowadays is usually the first six months of a relationship, not even a marriage.

I'm pretty sure my wife and I had most of our fights, and certainly our worst fights, in the first couple years of moving in together. It's something people don't talk about. There's a lot of settling and compromising, and finding out if you're going to work. And if you get married within that period of time, before you hammer out that stuff, then problems are going to continue like they would anyway.
 
I don't really think it's my place to speak on it but it honestly hasn't sounded like much of a picnic, let alone a honeymoon...
 

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Alright, here's the gif that we've all been wanting since seeing the end of GOTG. Looped and spoilery.

 
Yeah... I don't understand why you can't just go to the movies. There are some that I have to watch with the gf first, otherwise it's movie adultery. The first minor squabble we had occurred because I saw a new Thrones episode without her. But unless your significant other has an interest in the movie, there's nothing keeping you from watching it on your own time.
 
Yeah... I don't understand why you can't just go to the movies. There are some that I have to watch with the gf first, otherwise it's movie adultery. The first minor squabble we had occurred because I saw a new Thrones episode without her. But unless your significant other has an interest in the movie, there's nothing keeping you from watching it on your own time.
Agreed. When Godzilla came out?
Me: "You don't have to come with me."
Wife: "Thank you."

The best part about this is how it plays on the earlier joke that his reflexes are too fast.
I didn't even think of that. Awesome.
 
I can't comment on anyones personally lives but I will say this: People who don't understand why a married person who also has a new baby (or year or two old right?) might need to ask permission of the spouse if they can go spend several hours by themselves having lots of fun without the other person have never been married and have a (relatively) new baby. Life... change a bit. So do priorities.

Granted, everyone needs self-care, but you still have to work these things out as a couple, not "I'm a man so I can do whatever the fuck I want". That's not a healthy way of caring for each other.
 
Judging from the past troubles he's shared around that same subject, no it isn't.

Although, just throwing that out there for @Shawnacy, you're a grown ass man, you can go to the movies whenever you want.
Despite being the grown ass man I am, if I value my marriage and the livelihood of my kids I flex my wings when I'm able. It has gotten better. The "honeymoon" period was definitely a thing as things were far worse in the beginning. To be fair I haven't had much interest in going to the movies without her. This time is a little different because we both went together, but I ended up sitting out of the majority of the film because the baby couldn't calm down for it. Babysitters are a bit out of our price range, but next time I'm sure we'll figure it out if we really want to go to a movie again. In the mean time I'd like to see the film again. I might actually ask if I can see it on Wednesday. I have the day off, and if I see it during the morning then she's only left with the baby and not the entire quartet.

It will probably also help if I completely scrub the house from top to bottom on Tuesday.
 
Zero Esc: You know first hand how overwhelmed we are with the kids sometimes. The one chance we got to play Mario Kart online was plagued with kids screaming, the baby crawling over us, and sudden disconnects when the baby quite literally pulled the plug on everything.
 
Zero Esc: You know first hand how overwhelmed we are with the kids sometimes. The one chance we got to play Mario Kart online was plagued with kids screaming, the baby crawling over us, and sudden disconnects when the baby quite literally pulled the plug on everything.
Oh, I know. I think you're correct in prioritizing your kids over a movie, video games, etc. Everyone else here is just concerned about your well-being, because as important as it is to take care of your family, if you don't take care of yourself too, you're not going to be able to take care of them. Not that whether you see this movie or not centers on that; but making sure you're getting enough rest is important.

I'm kind of surprised you went at all. Movie outings really aren't places for babies. When I was in college, I saw a couple bring a baby into Blade: Trinity. She was crying before the movie even started and they had to leave. Babies are like that--there's no prediction for when it's going to happen. It's just one of those things you sacrifice when you become a parent. My dad didn't take us until we were old enough to obey when he told us "shut up or we're leaving." We didn't want to leave, so we shut up.

Semi-related aside, my dad's judgment on movies when I was a kid was whether they passed "the stay-awake test". If he didn't end up taking a nap during the movie, it's because it held his attention stronger than his need to take a rest from us kids.
 
She was good through How to Train your Dragon 2. She does like to watch movies. We found she was coming down with a flu afterwards so I think that was part of it.
It was a stupid choice in the grand scheme of things, mostly decided because well... I really want to see that movie.
 
I have texted my wife and asked if I can go see an early showing of GotG with a friend (male) on Wednesday.

It's going about as expected...
 
My frustration in this situation is complicated. Essentially she has told me it's "It's fine, it's whatever" which means that she's allowing me, but grudgingly so.
My wife and grudges are a bad combination, and I'm a nice guy anyway, so I'd rather clear things up. I don't think I'm asking for much for my wife to want me to do something because I enjoy doing it, even if it doesn't include her.

She thinks seeing a movie we already went to see is counter-productive (even though I didn't get to actually see it) and that the movie was supposed to be a date movie and now I'm seeing it with someone else.

I've suggested seeing it again with her, but we would have to find a sitter for the quartet. I also know she's not big about watching movies twice.

Unfortunately she stopped reading my texts before we could resolve things. I've remained calm in my discussion with her, but I have informed her that I can not go until I have her absolute approval. Basically acknowledgement that she's letting me do something I enjoy doing and is completely fine with it. Not "Fine, whatever".

Another part of my frustration is the fact that I am more than supportive of my wife in other areas, and I feel that she doesn't often "give back". She is continually making her schedule more and more complicated as she finds more and more things to volunteer for such as being a coach for the kids' soccer team, the PTA, cooking projects at the kids' schools, etc. Of course these aren't "leisure" to her as they serve a purpose. Sometimes she has legit things that she needs to be available for as well like court appearances over child custody with the ex. I am continually changing my work schedule to meet her needs, such as just a few hours ago when I switched my AM for the other manager's PM so I can watch the baby on Thursday morning. Course that means I have to work a PM and then an AM the following day, but hey. I'm doing my wife a favor.
The frustration expands from even there.
As of two days ago our household consisted of the six family members (us and the 4 kids), 2 giant rabbits, 6 chickens in the backyard, and 1 dog. I have voiced concern and disapproval at every pet addition on the grounds that we do not have the time/energy or money for it. EVery time she has ignored me and even once said "I didn't ask because I knew you would say no." .Yesterday she upped that two 2 dogs when she "found" a puppy wandering the street and brought it home. She asked me if she could keep it (after buying $200 in stuff from Petsmart). My exact words were "You would just ignore me if I objected so all I can be is supportive". She seemed pleased with that answer and was very happy afterward.

I give a lot.

I'm not even allowed to go to the movies.



I'm sure she'll eventually argue that all the pets means we don't have money for extra stuff like movie tickets.
 
Unfortunately she stopped reading my texts before we could resolve things. I've remained calm in my discussion with her, but I have informed her that I can not go until I have her absolute approval. Basically acknowledgement that she's letting me do something I enjoy doing and is completely fine with it. Not "Fine, whatever".
vs.
"I didn't ask because I knew you would say no."
Look, I know I'm an outsider, and obviously kids and such come first....But a relationship, to a point, needs to go both ways. If she does things you don't like (especially big things like pets - you can't just throw them out when you're bored!) and'll just ignore you when you try to say no, she should at the very least realize that, perhaps, sometimes she has to give in, too.
No, not every relationship is exactly balanced and equal (sugardaddy style things actually can work, for example, as long as everyone gets something out of it :p), but really...."can I go see the second half of a movie I missed part of because I had to leave with a kid while you watched the rest of the movie?" is a much smaller thing than "can I get a 6th pet we have time nor money for?".
 
There really isn't anything interesting to talk about in Guardians of the Galaxy if the thread keeps getting derailed to other topics. I think everyone wants the movie to be a lot better / deeper / more interesting than it actually was.
 
There really isn't anything interesting to talk about in Guardians of the Galaxy if the thread keeps getting derailed to other topics. I think everyone wants the movie to be a lot better / deeper / more interesting than it actually was.
These other subjects began in this thread. We go off-topic all the time. If you genuinely feel there's nothing left to discuss about Guardians of the Galaxy, then it shouldn't matter if it keeps getting derailed. I'm sure I'll be bringing it up again when I see it again a week from Saturday. My wife and I would see it this weekend, but we have other plans.

My frustration in this situation is complicated. Essentially she has told me it's "It's fine, it's whatever" which means that she's allowing me, but grudgingly so.
Okay. Discussion done. It doesn't matter; she said it was fine.

My wife and grudges are a bad combination, and I'm a nice guy anyway, so I'd rather clear things up.
What you're doing in this is making it her responsibility. Don't. I know you want to avoid conflict, or avoid her grudge, but that only bugs you because you let it bug you. That's what she's counting on, that you're going to cave. Because that's the way it's been.

She may not realize it, but it puts too much pressure and stress on one person to be giving permission for everything. She's making things worse for herself.

I don't think I'm asking for much for my wife to want me to do something because I enjoy doing it, even if it doesn't include her.

She thinks seeing a movie we already went to see is counter-productive (even though I didn't get to actually see it) and that the movie was supposed to be a date movie and now I'm seeing it with someone else.

I've suggested seeing it again with her, but we would have to find a sitter for the quartet. I also know she's not big about watching movies twice.
Then go alone?

Unfortunately she stopped reading my texts before we could resolve things. I've remained calm in my discussion with her, but I have informed her that I can not go until I have her absolute approval. Basically acknowledgement that she's letting me do something I enjoy doing and is completely fine with it. Not "Fine, whatever".
This is gonna sound weird, but you're being overly demanding. She doesn't have to like it. Again, saying you can't do it until she's completely fine with it is putting undue pressure on her. She already begrudgingly said it was okay, but now you're making it an emotional conflict by insisting you can't do it until she likes that you're going to do it. She already said fine, there's no need for her to like the decision as well. We don't have to like everything we allow between spouses. "I'm not allowed to have fun unless you like the thing I'm going to do." That's not fair to either of you and it doesn't matter. She gave approval; don't force her to like it so that you can do it.

Another part of my frustration is the fact that I am more than supportive of my wife in other areas, and I feel that she doesn't often "give back". She is continually making her schedule more and more complicated as she finds more and more things to volunteer for such as being a coach for the kids' soccer team, the PTA, cooking projects at the kids' schools, etc. Of course these aren't "leisure" to her as they serve a purpose. Sometimes she has legit things that she needs to be available for as well like court appearances over child custody with the ex. I am continually changing my work schedule to meet her needs, such as just a few hours ago when I switched my AM for the other manager's PM so I can watch the baby on Thursday morning. Course that means I have to work a PM and then an AM the following day, but hey. I'm doing my wife a favor.
This is all part of marriage and being a parent, so ... sorry, man, tough luck there. This is your lot for as long as you're a husband and a dad.

The frustration expands from even there.
As of two days ago our household consisted of the six family members (us and the 4 kids), 2 giant rabbits, 6 chickens in the backyard, and 1 dog. I have voiced concern and disapproval at every pet addition on the grounds that we do not have the time/energy or money for it. EVery time she has ignored me and even once said "I didn't ask because I knew you would say no." .Yesterday she upped that two 2 dogs when she "found" a puppy wandering the street and brought it home. She asked me if she could keep it (after buying $200 in stuff from Petsmart). My exact words were "You would just ignore me if I objected so all I can be is supportive". She seemed pleased with that answer and was very happy afterward.
Now this item here is bullshit. First of all, having four kids already doesn't exactly lead to proper care of all these animals. Second, it's draining resources that should be for the family. Third, getting a pet should be a joint decision. The only time my wife went off on her own to get an animal, it was a hamster. You may not know this, but they take a lot less work than multiple rabbits, chickens, and dogs. When we did get a pet that required a more hands-on approach, it was a joint decision. It should be, because unless you own a farm, it's a big deal.

On the emotional stuff, her first response is her being childish, "I knew you'd say no." It almost sounds like she wants a fight, but you cave. The second, where she was happy about your defeatist outlook, is scary. Maybe you guys need to sit down and talk. The chickens should at least earn their keep in eggs, but for an already full house, three dogs and two rabbits is excessive. Really, this movie thing is a small thing compared to her bringing in more and more responsibilities and expenses.

I give a lot.
Yes, but you always give in a lot. I know you're tired from all the other stuff, but that's the life you got into with this, man. The emotional manipulation is where there's an issue.

I'm sure she'll eventually argue that all the pets means we don't have money for extra stuff like movie tickets.
You already have her permission; you don't need her approval.

You have three routes here:

1. Cave, as you've been doing.
2. Become passive-aggressive, still not arguing, keeping it nice on the surface, but not letting her get to you.
3. Actually sit down and talk about this; confront her in a closed environment where it's not in a rush to get something done, or friggin texting, where you can be understanding and offer her the chance to be understanding without being in a hurry.

You can probably guess which of these has the best chance at improving the situation.
 
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There really isn't anything interesting to talk about in Guardians of the Galaxy if the thread keeps getting derailed to other topics. I think everyone wants the movie to be a lot better / deeper / more interesting than it actually was.
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