My daughter just told me that I have no right to be in charge of her life and it's not fair that I expect her to do what I say. Also that I have turned into a really mean mom and I used to be much nicer.


She's 8.

What the hell am I going to do when she is a teenager?

I have started laughing at all of this because my only other emotional recourse is to scream and yell. She's not even a rebellious kid. She's just fiercely independent beyond her age. She's such a nice girl to anyone who isn't family. ;)
 
Yeah, it's really funny.

all I could think about hearing about this is how this monster just lost his man card forever. what kind of impotent shit beats a women, what kind of monster does this, I am a ugly basement troll, but I would never do this to a women. but, alas I am no white knight, I could never help someone in this situation, I could never stand against someone as powerful as a MMA fighter, in the end all I can do is send my positive thoughts to this poor women, and hope some good officer like @Frank or @Officer_Charon finds him, and brings him to face justice.
 
My daughter just told me that I have no right to be in charge of her life and it's not fair that I expect her to do what I say. Also that I have turned into a really mean mom and I used to be much nicer.


She's 8.

What the hell am I going to do when she is a teenager?

I have started laughing at all of this because my only other emotional recourse is to scream and yell. She's not even a rebellious kid. She's just fiercely independent beyond her age. She's such a nice girl to anyone who isn't family. ;)
This was pretty much my cousin (who is now a year from turning 13, yeesh). What my aunt did was sit her down and have a one-on-one talk about control, and then decide some things that she was in charge of deciding for herself. It worked pretty well.
 
What kind of impotent shit beats a women, what kind of monster does this, I am a ugly basement troll, but I would never do this to a women.I could never stand against someone as powerful as a MMA fighter, in the end all I can do is send my positive thoughts to this poor women, and hope some good officer like @Frank or @Officer_Charon finds him, and brings him to face justice.
To answer your first question, this prick:


And to the second part, I don't know if I could bring this guy in without shooting him. Not because I want to kill him or anything but because he is an unstable, well trained maniac. He once beat the shit out of four guys who were just trying to calm him down at a party where he was, surprise, surprise, being abusive towards the woman he almost beat to death.
 
And to the second part, I don't know if I could bring this guy in without shooting him. Not because I want to kill him or anything but because he is an unstable, well trained maniac. He once beat the shit out of four guys who were just trying to calm him down at a party where he was, surprise, surprise, being abusive towards the woman he almost beat to death.
Not to worry, Frank.

Dog the Bounty Hunter is on the job. It's times like this that I wish we still had the eyeroll emoticon.
 
To answer your first question, this prick:


And to the second part, I don't know if I could bring this guy in without shooting him. Not because I want to kill him or anything but because he is an unstable, well trained maniac. He once beat the shit out of four guys who were just trying to calm him down at a party where he was, surprise, surprise, being abusive towards the woman he almost beat to death.
Did he actually wear a shirt that said that? Wow, anti-boner. (Why are some people on this board becoming fucking terrible this week? Stop it.)

And you make a good point. Tracking him down shouldn't be hard considering his behavior, but taking him in would be difficult. Of course, shooting him doesn't have to mean killing him. Then there are tasers. Options!
 
You people amuse me.

Expressing what one feels about how someone looks like in a negative way doesn't advocate "pro women violence".... nice try though. You'll just hear what you're wanting to hear right? Let us just assume whatever the fuck we want and let's paint Jay with a brush full of phony assumptions and melodrama, then have the bandwagon stooges come in and go JAY, YOU'RE LIKE CHAZ OVER THE LAST YEAR.

Get over yourselves folks.

People do and will express their opinions openly the way they want to express them. This is why this is an open forum. Isn't that why Charlie hasn't been euthanized yet? Or why Chaz has been allowed to come back several times? You think I'm at a new low but I think I'm high as fuck. I'VE NEVER BEEN BETTER. You can call me Icarus.

Anyways, I always will sympathize with those who go thought this ordeal. It's terrible, for sure. Let's be honest with ourselves though, the guy was a douchebag way BEFORE this even happened. I doubt she had a whole lot to do with "Alpha Dog" going ape-shit on her. Bad boys and all. Terrible ordeal.

As for my comment on her looks, perhaps it's slightly off but that's just how I am, I didn't know who she was... so I went "porn star?" *raise eyebrows*... who is she? Then I found her (before that hospital picture) and WOW.... VERY VERY unattractive. When you read "porn star" you have certain expectations what I saw was a troll-doll with excessive tattoos. Nasty. But hey, there's porn for everyone right?

Sorry for any miscommunication and for those of you who still feel slighted...

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What if you posted a picture of your baby and someone said "wow what an ugly baby." Even if that person thinks it's true, it's an asshole move because it's not relevant, insulting, and nothing is gained from that comment.
 
What if you posted a picture of your baby and someone said "wow what an ugly baby." Even if that person thinks it's true, it's an asshole move because it's not relevant, insulting, and nothing is gained from that comment.
Is Christie Mack someone's child on these forums? I don't get the relevance.

Anyways, that doesn't mean I'm not an asshole. I certainly am and admit as much with that comment. Just not to anyone here with that specific comment. :)
 
Is Christie Mack someone's child on these forums? I don't get the relevance.

Anyways, that doesn't mean I'm not an asshole. I certainly am and admit as much with that comment. Just not to anyone here with that specific comment. :)
Not to anyone here? Really. You are very wrong. It is insulting to anyone who has ever been a victim of a violent crime. Minimizing what was done to her on the basis of her looks is not only insensitive, but it makes you seems like an even bigger douchebag than usual.
Would it be ok if it was someone here? If it was someone in your family? The fact that it isn't is irrelevant. The victim of the crime, regardless of her physical appearance or profession, is someone whether she is familiar to you or not.
 
Meh.

Won't bother my douchebag self any further with this subject when people won't even bother to properly read my replies.

People can get 'more ignorant than usual' about these things.

Moving along... it's been raining so much today, I wonder if I'll have to drain my new pool under that weather, I hope not but I'll keep my eye on the pool the next few hours like a hawk.
 
Not to defend my bro or anything, but I think it's important to note that he wasn't minimizing what was done to her because of her looks, he was surprised at her homeliness with respect to her profession. Knowing Jay and his pornstar affinity, that's what he was commenting on, not that an 'ugly' girl deserved to be beaten up. The guy's a pretty staunch defender of women.
 
@Jay has repeatedly shown he is not shy about stating his opinion, even when (painfully) obvious to both parties that it may be hurtful or in bad taste. Putting aside the debate over the actual value of any of these (individual) opinions, I believe him when he says his opinions are just opinions, and should not necessarily be construed as an endorsement 0f any mindset, affiliation, membership, or political leaning. It's just Jay being Jay. Christie doesn't work any magic for him, end of comment. Pretty sure the rest just occurred due to inference (such as assuming which pictures he might've been looking at (before v. after)) combined with our individual assumptive notions of him.

--Patrick
 

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"Robin Williams couldn't act and was never funny, really."

That statement probably would have generated a lot less outrage a few days ago, as opposed to if it were made during a discussion of his passing.
 
Still pretty unclassy to discuss a woman's looks right after a post about how she got beat up.
I still don't see the connection between the two. Her looks had no bearing on her getting beaten up, except for the idea that they were part of what encouraged this one, specific beater-upper person to seek her out and hook up with her. Her looks and her fate are two separate conversations. One is subjective, the other is reprehensible, but they are not related in any way except by proximity. We seem to be discussing the potential relationship between Robin Williams' career and his death pretty civilly over in his [Brazelton] thread, and nobody seems to mind.

I understand that the subject of "battered/abused women" can be a sensitive and incendiary topic which inspires a lot of passion in a lot of people, but unless someone is explicitly making the claim that she "deserved" to get beat up because of her looks, then I'm afraid I don't see the reason for the indignation. I see the domestic tragedy, but I don't ascribe any additional meaning to it either because they were both celebrities or because of the sort of celebrities they happen to be. A guy beat up his girlfriend rather thoroughly, and that is unquestionably uncool, no matter who they each might've been. The fact that they are celebrities just means that this news will reach more people.

EDIT: @GasBandit and I did not compare examples before we posted, I swear.

--Patrick
 
I still don't see the connection between the two.
That's the point. There's no connection, but he went ahead and made it. He distilled the totality of a person's experience into "she's ugly."

Just recently, an Iranian woman won the Fields medal, the first woman to do so. Imagine if someone, in response to that article, went "damn, talk about an anti-erection." Hey, who give a shit about this lady's accomplishments, she's a two bagger, amirite fellas?

But hey, according to Adam, she's just a porn star, so who cares about showing some common human decency and compassion if she's an uggo.
 
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It's a matter of tact and timing. Yeah, you can have an opinion about how a woman - in this case, a porn star - looks. By all means.

But Jesus Christ, have the decency to keep your goddamn mouth shut about it when it's IMMEDIATELY following a story about her beating, rape, and attempted murder.

Jay is an adult, a husband, and a father. He should know better.
 
I will admit, the lady does have some interesting looks. But no, that does not make what this "Warhammer" idiot did right or justified or anything.
 
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