Eh, when you start calling something 'normal' you get into some really sketchy territory. In fact, that's why cis exists at all, because there became a need to specify. Tumblr takes it to stupid levels, as is what tumblr does, but there's nothing wrong with the word itself. Once upon a time, landline phones were just called phones, but then the demographics of what a phone is changed.cis as a designation for anything is fucking stupid. It's like making up a word for a bird that has the audacity to think it's a bird. No, there doesn't need to be a word for that, unless you want to call it statistically normal.
Statistically normal is what I said. I'm not discounting that these others on the spectrum are not normal because they are. But statistically, they are a super-minority in the gene pool.Eh, when you start calling something 'normal' you get into some really sketchy territory. In fact, that's why cis exists at all, because there became a need to specify. Tumblr takes it to stupid levels, as is what tumblr does, but there's nothing wrong with the word itself. Once upon a time, landline phones were just called phones, but then the demographics of what a phone is changed.
SKREEEEEE (points) SHIIIIIT-LOOOOOOOORDcis as a designation for anything is fucking stupid. It's like making up a word for a bird that has the audacity to think it's a bird. No, there doesn't need to be a word for that, unless you want to call it statistically normal.
Well, if you want to be silly, if you ever fly to Paris with a stopover at new York, you could tell people you're taking a cisatlantic flight followed by a transatlantic flight. They probably won't understand you, but you'd have the fun of speaking pseudolatin.cis as a designation for anything is fucking stupid.
Should heterosexual be changed to normal as well?Statistically normal is what I said. I'm not discounting that these others on the spectrum are not normal because they are. But statistically, they are a super-minority in the gene pool.
No, it doesn't cis and transgender are in regards to gender identity only. We've had this discussion before. Cis is a word that has every right to exist in the realm of qualification of specific groups. Cis is the opposite of Trans, it's that simple. It's the fact that the SJW douchies turned it into an insult that caused all the negative implications.The whole cis thing revolves not only around gender identity but also sexual preference, so statistically speaking yes.
We really need a better way to say this than "So... what kind of parts do you like to stick stuff/have stuff stuck in?"Also, the term sexual preference implies that it is a choice.
FTFYWe really need a better way to say this than "So... what kind of parts do you have/like to stick stuff/have stuff stuck in?"
The "PC" term is sexual orientation.[DOUBLEPOST=1412814442,1412814068][/DOUBLEPOST]We really need a better way to say this than "So... what kind of parts do you like to stick stuff/have stuff stuck in?"
Try having to remember the ever growing alphabet soup that is to encompass the I guess, differently sexed? community.FTFY
It's true, though. Gone are the days of "a/s/l?" Now you'd have to send an entire escaped alphabet.
--Patrick
You're bitching about people bitching about labels instead of enjoying the fact that you've gained considerable equality, I think they've won.When I was a youngun, it was just the gay community....[DOUBLEPOST=1412814626][/DOUBLEPOST]I mean, seriously, Is this really what I fought for almost my entire life? For people to spend more time bitching about labels than enjoying the fact that we're actually gaining the equality I spent over half my life trying to get?
Again, we need a better way to say this. This does not jive with a casual bar scene.The "PC" term is sexual orientation.
Isn't the last one Asexual, or is that considered Intersex?LGBTQIA
Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgendered Questioning Intersex and Allies.
That's what happens when people who only know how to fight start to get what they want: they turn on each other because it's all the know.I'm already on a tirade, may as well continue it. I don't know if any of you watch RuPaul's Drag Race, but recently the Trans community got all pissed off because they use the word trannie on the show to refer to each other.
I mean, FFS, first of all, Trannie is ambiguous and was usually originally used to refer to transvestites, which is basically what drag queens are, so they have every right to use the label. Second of all, for real? There's a VAST difference between drag queens calling each other trannies and someone on the street yelling it at transsexual people as an insult.
The "PC" term is sexual orientation.[DOUBLEPOST=1412814442,1412814068][/DOUBLEPOST]
Try having to remember the ever growing alphabet soup that is to encompass the I guess, differently sexed? community.
LGBTQIA
Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgendered Questioning Intersex and Allies.
When I was a youngun, it was just the gay community....[DOUBLEPOST=1412814626][/DOUBLEPOST]I mean, seriously, Is this really what I fought for almost my entire life? For people to spend more time bitching about labels than enjoying the fact that we're actually gaining the equality I spent over half my life trying to get?
I'm already on a tirade, may as well continue it. I don't know if any of you watch RuPaul's Drag Race, but recently the Trans community got all pissed off because they use the word trannie on the show to refer to each other.
I mean, FFS, first of all, Trannie is ambiguous and was usually originally used to refer to transvestites, which is basically what drag queens are, so they have every right to use the label. Second of all, for real? There's a VAST difference between drag queens calling each other trannies and someone on the street yelling it at transsexual people as an insult.
Unless you want to use it around people who know it's often used as an insult. In which case it becomes completely worthless.Cisgender is just as valid as heterosexual, white, or any other descriptor that contrasts a majority group with a minority group.
Just because it's been coopted by people into a patriarchy insult doesn't make it any less valid of a word.
Except that word has a extensive history of use beyond people using it as a pretend-slur for people they didn't like.I hate the word homosexual, but that doesn't mean it's not a valid descriptor.
It's been in use since the 90s. There was a void for a term that describes specifically "someone who identifies as their biological gender". It was filled by this word. It's not until VERY recently that it was co-opted and misused. It wasn't needed in the past as trans people were lumped into the broad category of "sexual deviants" with homosexuals. Just as the term homosexual/heterosexual, coined sometime in the 1900s. Prior to that, they didn't even need the word heterosexual. When a new binary option word is presented, it's opposite has to be coined.Except that word has a extensive history of use beyond people using it as a pretend-slur for people they didn't like.
Cis is almost exclusively used as an insult by the very community that created it and has spread it's use.
It's probably simpler to say that it's neutral uses never spread beyond it's target audience... which, again, is the fault of the community that uses it, not the ones that don't.Also, I believe your interpretation of it being almost exclusively as a pejorative is most likely confirmation biased.
What I mean is, it's use is slowly becoming mainstream and not in a pejorative way. Like any new use of language, it will take time, but I firmly believe that eventually it will be a common selection box on demographic questions that may get into those types of questions.It's probably simpler to say that it's neutral uses never spread beyond it's target audience... which, again, is the fault of the community that uses it, not the ones that don't.
Unfortunately, the worsts parts of any community are often the most visible ones.
Don't be such a Nimrod.Unless you want to use it around people who know it's often used as an insult. In which case it becomes completely worthless.
Let's look at some pictures of republican national conventions.