That's the onion, right @GasBandit?
Go nuts. That's a search for every one of my posts where I use the word "Gasbandit" or quote you since August 15th. It's only 4 pages long, shouldn't take any time at all.
I see how it is.I think somebody, maybe even me, might have said that in the political thread a few years back. Found it.
The difference is, I only had to search the word "Huxley," no user limitation, and was presented with a very short list of possibilities.I see how it is.
--Patrick
Lark News, which wishes it was the onion.That's the onion, right @GasBandit?
I was just making sure it was fake lolLark News, which wishes it was the onion.
This might be true, but I'll never know, because every time I start to read Atwood, I discover I'm tying myself a noose unconsciously.I don't know. Atwood is freakishly spot on. She even has the government takeover be blamed on fear of Islamic fanatics.
Fixed.This might be true, but I'll never know, because every time I start to read Atwood, I discover I'm tying myself a moose unconsciously.
"So tell me, where did you get so good at locks?"
This hits close to home. I spent way to much time growing up having to explain to Baptists that Catholics are in fact Christians.
I twisted one Baptist's noodle at a Fellowship of Christian Athletes convention. We were in a small prayer group doing introductions. I tell the group that I am Catholic and then he said, "I was told that Catholics are not Christian." I replied "Who do you think wrote the book?"[DOUBLEPOST=1414791786,1414791547][/DOUBLEPOST]This college kid got a summer job with an oil field company. The Tool Pusher (boss) played the prank on him to go buy some striped paint. The kid hopped in his car and sped off. He did not return for the rest of the day.This hits close to home. I spent way to much time growing up having to explain to Baptists that Catholics are in fact Christians.
When I worked in larger IT depts, I used to enjoy sending new guys to the supply dept for some more "I.D. 10 T" cables.The sterile air one is an old joke, like sending the rookie to get the keys to the fighter jet or a can of K9P.
As I tech I used the ID 10 T form line countless times. Always entertaining.When I worked in larger IT depts, I used to enjoy sending new guys to the supply dept for some more "I.D. 10 T" cables.
This hits close to home. I spent way to much time growing up having to explain to Baptists that Catholics are in fact Christians.
I've met a number of Christians who have been taught that Catholics aren't Christian, primarily because they don't believe in the Resurrection (which... they do).I twisted one Baptist's noodle at a Fellowship of Christian Athletes convention. We were in a small prayer group doing introductions. I tell the group that I am Catholic and then he said, "I was told that Catholics are not Christian." I replied "Who do you think wrote the book?"
What do the catholics say?
To put it simply, they don't completely dismiss the other denominations completely and admit that it's possible for members of these faiths to find salvation through these churches, but that they are not "proper churches" because they are not descended from the apostles but rather break away groups that objected to one thing or another.The historical teaching of the Roman Catholic Church was "Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus" (Outside the church, there is no salvation). That is, for a person to be saved -- and avoid Hell -- it is absolutely necessary that they be subject to the Pope. All Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and followers of other non-Christian religions were destined for Hell. All members of Protestant, Anabaptist, Mormon, and other Christian denominations were headed there as well.
This position was moderated significantly by two documents written in the late 20th century:
The "Second Vatican Council's Declaration on the relation of the Church to non-Christian religions" issued in 1976
"Dominus Iesus" written by Pope Benedict XVI in the year 2000 when, as Cardinal Ratzinger, he was the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
These documents state that Jesus created only a single church, now comprising the Roman Catholic Church together with a number of other Churches that also share a valid Eucharist and Apostolic Succession: 1 [Apostolic succession is the belief held by some Christian denominations that their current bishops have spiritual and ecclesiastical authority that can be traced by an unbroken chain of proper ordinations back to the Apostles, and thus to Christ, in the first century CE.] Roman Catholics recognize the validity of the apostolic successions of their bishops, and therefore the rest of their clergy, as well as the clergy of the Eastern Orthodox Churches. Wikipedia also lists other churches whose apostolic succession is recognized by the Roman Catholic Church:
We are attempting to find a complete authoritative list.
- Oriental Orthodox,
- Assyrian,
- Old Catholic, and
- some Independent Catholic Churches. 2
The Roman Catholic Church teaches that all other Christian denominations to not feature Apostolic Succession, and thus are not "proper" churches; they are viewed as suffering from "defects." Religions other than Christianity are considered to be "gravely deficient." Their rituals can constitute "an obstacle to salvation" for their followers. Still, the Catholic Church now recognizes that it is possible for some individuals who are not members of churches that have maintained apostolic succession to attain Heaven. 3,4
Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!What do the catholics say?