Contact was streets ahead of Interstellar imho
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GasBandit
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It was good up until alien dad and the parable on faith.
Apparently it's a really divisive movie. Not sure whether I feel like using the money.
GasBandit
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It seems to me that there are certain movies that, if you're going to see them, need to be seen on the big screen. Interstellar strikes me as one of those movies, like Gravity was, or Jurassic Park or Terminator 2.
Oh, it's exactly what people here were afraid it was going to be.
Apparently the film was originally made specifically for Stephen Spielburg. But when he passed on the project to do something else, they gave it to Nolan. So it's a movie that was supposed to be a Spielburg movie made by Nolan. The results, from what I'm hearing, are exactly what you'd expect.
For me it was the Prestige. Although both Batman Begins and Dark Knight don't have great endings (Dark Knight in particular could lose the entire last act), and the Dark Knight Rises was just a bad movie on pretty much every level.
Yeah, it was Dark Knight Rises for me. I like the first two, but man, that last one was a major fumble at the finish line for Nolan for a variety of reasons.
The Nolanizing of Man of Steel didn't help, either. Though I have to respect that he fought against "Superman" killing.
The Nolanizing of Man of Steel didn't help, either. Though I have to respect that he fought against "Superman" killing.
I don't think you can blame Man of Steel on him.[DOUBLEPOST=1415714990,1415714888][/DOUBLEPOST]
I had a Bob action figure. FUCKING BOB!
I fuckin' love Batman. I do. I know it's a shitty representation of the character but it's one of my first theater going experiences and to this day I can quote the whole God damn movie. I had the cloth posters as well as multiple versions of the movie poster on my wall. I wore out the VHS copy. It was the greatest thing my 6 year old self had ever seen. Everyone who knows me to this day knows the "He's dead now, and he left me in charge." line from my own overuse of it.
I had a Bob action figure. FUCKING BOB!
fade
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Man I tried Burton Batman, and I found it a lot less interesting that I remembered. I loved it when it originally came out. I'd stopped reading comics at that time, and that got me back into them. One of the things that stands out to me is how bad the FX are. For example, in one of the first scenes, there's a pan down from a Gotham skyline to an alley (I think) and you can see quite clearly where they pasted it in.
Eh, I don't blame him entirely for Man of Steel, but he obviously had a hand in the movie's creation and overall style.
You know, speaking of Nolan's Batman, I realized something awhile ago: he's a TERRIBLE superhero. For one, he only goes after the big guns. Doesn't patrol or help out the little crimes (a little bit at the start of Dark Knight). Second, he gets his ass handed to him all the time, even having trouble with Joker's lackeys. Bane I can understand because Bane's supposed to be physically dominating. Third, a lot of people die as a result of his actions (like the Joker chase scene and especially many parts of Dark Knight Rises). To say nothing of countless, needless property damage (the Batmobile chase scene in Begins). Fourth, he actually quits between the second and third one.
Yeah, it makes him imperfect and fallible, but when you start thinking about his actions, he's probably the worst Batman in Bat-history.
You know, speaking of Nolan's Batman, I realized something awhile ago: he's a TERRIBLE superhero. For one, he only goes after the big guns. Doesn't patrol or help out the little crimes (a little bit at the start of Dark Knight). Second, he gets his ass handed to him all the time, even having trouble with Joker's lackeys. Bane I can understand because Bane's supposed to be physically dominating. Third, a lot of people die as a result of his actions (like the Joker chase scene and especially many parts of Dark Knight Rises). To say nothing of countless, needless property damage (the Batmobile chase scene in Begins). Fourth, he actually quits between the second and third one.
Yeah, it makes him imperfect and fallible, but when you start thinking about his actions, he's probably the worst Batman in Bat-history.
What? No. In order:
1) We only see movies about him going after the big guns, but the beginning of The Dark Knight, between him going vigilante on Scarecrow/other batmen and his working with Gordon, indicates he's been doing stuff, quite successfully too, between movies.
2) Plenty of superheroes, especially more normal ones, don't effortlessly beat everyone they come across. As a counter-point, he took out both armed Joker goons and a police swat team at the same time non-lethally, while keeping the hostages safe as well. The guy is legit badass.
3) As opposed to all the people who die because other versions of Batman haven't just killed the Joker/Scarecrow/every other reoccuring villain and been done with it?
Fourth is the only one you're really on point for. Which isn't enough to make him a terrible Batman.
Welp, guess I'm wrong, then. I still think he's a terrible Batman, though.
The editing of the movies and timeline presented certainly -suggest- he's a terrible Batman. Had they done it a little better, you could assume he's been doing stuff off camera, but because Begins ends with the Joker card, you have to assume that Dark Knight takes place almost immediately after, meaning that by the time Rises comes around, we're left to believe he quit being Batman after like a year and a half.
It's okay Nick. He's the Batman you deserve, not the one you want.
On the other hand, in The Dark Knight it's clear Batman has been working with the cops for a while on the mob (Batman's marked money has led to them finding the bulk of the mob's cash), and there's numerous references to how Batman's work has inspired the people and made them feel brave, how he and Gordon have pushed the crime bosses to their limits (which is why they turn to the Joker), and Scarecrow says in the busted drug sale "If you don't like what I have to offer, you can buy from someone else. Assuming Batman left anyone to buy from". They don't quite hit you over the head with the idea that Batman's been working at this for a while, quite successfully, but there's plenty of indicators if you pay attention.
And yet the timeline is still poorly edited, purely due to the introduction of the Joker at the end of Begins.
Why? The Joker showing up around then doesn't mean that Batman and Gordon made immediate progress. They had higher priority targets with the mobs than with one guy running smaller jobs. If they didn't address it all maybe, but when they explicitly reference the line of events, you can't really say they didn't/poorly explained it. You don't have to assume he's been doing things off camera as you suggest we could if they edited the timeline properly because they outright tell us this.
figmentPez
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I just watched Maleficent and I was not impressed. It felt tremendously shallow. Most of the characters run around with no motivation beyond a one-dimensional character trait. Watching the deleted scenes made me hate the movie.
Which at the time was just a double homicide. By The Dark Knight, he's made a name for himself, like Batman, in the year that occurs between movies.
What makes it dumb is that he apparently takes a break after Dark Knight, then seven years later comes back into it briefly, to then quit. So in the Nolanverse, he was Batman for just a year.
At this point, I just like to watch The Dark Knight as an isolated movie, a solo Batman story like a couple of the animated films are.
This we can agree on. It works great as a standalone movie, and really even kinda feels disconnected from the other two.
Kind of like Silent Hill 2, which was also the best of the at-that-time trilogy. In the middle, disconnected, but also the most interesting.
I watched the classic Sudden Death.
Jean Claude Van Damme beats the Penguins' mascot to death.
Jean Claude Van Damme beats the Penguins' mascot to death.
I forbid you from going.
Welp that settles it.
Cajungal
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*groin kick*
Ceej's really mellowed out recently. A few years ago this would've warranted a FLYING CAJUN ATTAAAAAAACK!!
Cajuns don't fly. They creep up on you like a gator and :chomp: your leg off and stuff you under a log.