There's now a generation whose sole experience with Star Wars is the prequel trilogy.
Star Wars Ep. VII has a name...
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Those poor summer movie children... they know nothing.
And the Disney shows/cartoons. I was playing with kids two weekends ago who argued over who got to be Ezra. The names Han or Luke didn't pop up once.
I haven't seen the newest show but Clone Wars was really good.And the Disney shows/cartoons. I was playing with kids two weekends ago who argued over who got to be Ezra. The names Han or Luke didn't pop up once.
It just didn't sound much like Hamill to me... but i guess that's because he's not playing a DC supervillain in this one...[DOUBLEPOST=1429470694,1429470644][/DOUBLEPOST]
WTF are tehir parent doing not showing them the originals?
That's just bad parenting.
GasBandit
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I don't agree with you often, but I'm pretty sure this is as close to iron-clad factual truth as one can get without religion being involved.
I'm the only reason certain kids have even seen the original Star Wars. I've seen kids who had Darth Vader toys they referred to as "Anakin."
It's a sick world we live in.
I think part of the problem is that Star Wars doesn't get regular play on TV anymore, mostly because I think Spike TV still owns the broadcasting rights to the first 6 films and really, who the fuck watches Spike TV? I know the only reason I ever saw the original movies is because they used to get played on syndicated TV all the fucking time.
Good point; it was the same for me. TNT would show them sometimes and eventually I taped them all. Never bought the movies until my wife got me the un-Lucased DVDs for Christmas some year.
GasBandit
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My father is a huge cinephile. We had them recorded from cable way back in the day, then the VHS collector's edition (which turned out to be the last version that had all the old fun "goofs" in them like the wrong-colored sabers and the funny bouncing Luke gaffe), then again on DVD when it made the transition. And, of course, we went to see them in the theaters.
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The best thing I've read about this movie is that BB-8 is not CGI, it's a functioning prop. Here's some dude's replica.
Checkeredhat posted a video of the opening talk at Celebration where they actually brought R2 and BB-8 out on stage.
Practical effects and actual sets may merit viewing regardless of how good a movie it is.
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The actual ad is "marked for deletion", but the crashed ISD has made it onto Craigslist. Ran when parked.
http://jalopnik.com/theres-imperial-star-destroyers-all-over-craigslist-now-1699065737/+chris-mills
And there's a followup, which is still up:
http://humboldt.craigslist.org/rvs/4988183907.html
http://jalopnik.com/theres-imperial-star-destroyers-all-over-craigslist-now-1699065737/+chris-mills
And there's a followup, which is still up:
http://humboldt.craigslist.org/rvs/4988183907.html
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I guess everyone has seen thenew set pictures?
Kylo Ren without the mask:
Apparently some dude from Girls.
Kylo Ren without the mask:
Apparently some dude from Girls.
Is that from a Bjork music video?
Gwendoline Christie - Brienne of Tarth - is Captain Phasma, that chrome-clad Stormtrooper Officer seen in the preview.
Vanity Fair has a spread of shots from the set of Star Wars VII and they're really promising, largely because they show the extent of the practical effects. When Daisy Ryder is on that popsicle shaped swoop bike / speeder, it's not a big green block, it's a full mock up vehicle. The shots inside the Millennium Falcon? In an actual cockpit set. That was one of the strengths of the original trilogy - almost everything looked real and physical and lived in, instead of an escapee from a video game.
Vanity Fair has a spread of shots from the set of Star Wars VII and they're really promising, largely because they show the extent of the practical effects. When Daisy Ryder is on that popsicle shaped swoop bike / speeder, it's not a big green block, it's a full mock up vehicle. The shots inside the Millennium Falcon? In an actual cockpit set. That was one of the strengths of the original trilogy - almost everything looked real and physical and lived in, instead of an escapee from a video game.
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Oh dang. Oh dang.
*sigh* I want to be excited. I really do. They're doing so many things right, most especially with all the practical effects.
But I just can't get hyped for this. I'm so sick of Star Wars. Though, I will say that despite my lack of hype, I still plan on seeing this. I want this movie to win me over.
But I just can't get hyped for this. I'm so sick of Star Wars. Though, I will say that despite my lack of hype, I still plan on seeing this. I want this movie to win me over.
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What exactly has you sick of it? I mean yeah, I-III are okay at best, but IV-VI are still good, the Clone Wars series was great (and I hear good things about Rebels), the current comics are pretty good reads, there's a pretty decent stable of solid games...
I don't mean this in a HOW DARE YOU sort of way, I'm just curious.
I don't mean this in a HOW DARE YOU sort of way, I'm just curious.
Fuck me, I teared up. And fuck them, they're getting my hopes up.
I also love how this reel is essentially saying "fuck you" to the prequel trilogy. They keep emphasizing these elements that are important to the production, all things the prequel trilogy didn't do. I know they can't say it outright, but it's there. I'm just looking at everything they've built and it's beautiful. They showed things in there I was certain they'd CGI. Real explosions? Guys on friggin wires?! I thought they'd just pay lip service to practical effects like with Jurassic World, but I was so wrong. There are so many sets and props and people walking around in prosthetics and suits, much more than I anticipated. The movie could be bad and it would still look amazing. The movie could be bad and it'll likely still be the best Star Wars film in over 30 years.[DOUBLEPOST=1436611340,1436610962][/DOUBLEPOST]
I think getting hyped would be a mistake. It may happen to me, but I'd advise against it anyway.
That said, if you're sick of Star Wars (this implies that you've reached a level of Star Wars oversaturation in your media, so I'm not sure that's what you meant), then you're not going to be giving the new one a real chance, so you'll probably get aggravated with it. I think the best approach is to go in neutral. Too much optimism could lead to disappointment, too much negativity could mean that a person can't like it no matter what it does right.
Like a fool, I'm getting my hopes up. But I don't advise that for anyone.
Two things, really:
1) That Star Wars never went away. I don't mean the movies, but the books, the games, the shows, etc. Lucas has been accused of whoring out his product to everything and anything, slapping the name on anything that he could put a price tag on it. And don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed some of these (the games in particular, like the original KOTOR). I found it got particularly worse once the prequels started rolling out.
2) The bigger issue for me isn't how Lucas and his company have handled the product, but the fans. It's sort of like Portal with "the cake is a lie." It was constantly referenced in all manner of media or memes. Worse, the parodies, like Robot Chicken and Family guy. At this point, I don't think there's a single scene or line from the original trilogy (or prequels to a lesser extent) that hasn't been parodied or made into a meme. It's to the point that I haven't even bothered trying to watch the original movies because I've been constantly reminded of them. I can't think of any other product that's been referenced or parodied as much as Star Wars. Not even Star Trek at its height was this bad. The parodies and memes were everywhere, so couple that with having to see books, TV shows, and games on top of it? It was a constant bombarding. So any news, picture, or trailer for the new movie came out, I found myself curling my lip because I was so sick of it at this point.
I guess because I gave up on Star Wars in 2007, I haven't really noticed much of this shit. Maybe I'm alone in that, but other people I've talked to have the "Star Wars coming back" vibe and I don't know if that's just because the movie looks good or because it's actually felt like it went away for people who weren't following games, comics, TV shows of it. Maybe I'm just a filthy casual when it comes to Star Wars so I don't pay much attention, but it does feel like it's been gone for a while to me. I'm wondering if that's where the general public is.
GasBandit
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I, too, got tired of star wars in 2007.
But I can't help getting excited for the new movie.
Please don't hurt me again, George Lucas.
But I can't help getting excited for the new movie.
Please don't hurt me again, George Lucas.
He can't hurt you anymore... he's been sealed away for good.
Lucas really doesn't have anything to do with this movie.
GasBandit
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Maybe that's why I'm able to get excited for it.
