Movie News & Miscellany

Huh. I always wondered when something like that was going to happen, but I had always assumed it would be because one of the multi-character voice actors passed away. I hope they can find a solution, or maybe it's time to look into a finale. The loss of Shearer is a huge loss of the Simpson cast.
 
When I first heard about this project, I would have never guessed it would be described as "The best reviewed movie of the year":
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This has been his dream project for years, even before he appeared as Wade in the first Wolverine movie.

If this does well, I imagine he's gonna be all out for sequels and probably crossovers with X-Men. And honestly, I want it to do well. And I say that as someone that's even really a big fan of Deadpool. Reynolds has worked damn hard, constantly fought with the studio execs, to get this thing made the way he (and the fans) wanted it. And now he's finally getting it. As a fellow creative person, I want to see that rewarded.

(And even though I'm not a big fan of the character, I can't wait to see the movie. I think it'll be a blast.)
 
This has been his dream project for years, even before he appeared as Wade in the first Wolverine movie.

If this does well, I imagine he's gonna be all out for sequels and probably crossovers with X-Men. And honestly, I want it to do well. And I say that as someone that's even really a big fan of Deadpool. Reynolds has worked damn hard, constantly fought with the studio execs, to get this thing made the way he (and the fans) wanted it. And now he's finally getting it. As a fellow creative person, I want to see that rewarded.

(And even though I'm not a big fan of the character, I can't wait to see the movie. I think it'll be a blast.)
Yeah, now if only Karl Urban could get Dredd 2 greenlit...
 
So I'm not sure whether to put this in Movie News or Comic Book News. I suppose Movie News is more relevant:

Marvel Comics seems to be going out of its way to wipe both the Fantastic Four and X-Men from their continuity. Or at the very least, deemphasize them within the Marvel Universe. Apparently, this is out of spite to Fox Studios, who have held onto the rights of both properties. There's been a lot of word that the new, upcoming Fantastic Four movie was rushed into production in order to have another film just to hold onto the rights, instead of them returning to Marvel like Daredevil, Punisher, Ghost Rider, and others have. So right now, the Fantastic Four comics look like they might be shuffled away after Marvel's big crossover event. X-Men will also be deemphasized.

But it's not just the comics:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/05/22/reed-richards-meets-leon-trotsky-remembering-secret-wars/

New t-shirts released through Marvel are of iconic covers from the Secret Wars story in the 80s. And missing or replaced from those covers? Members of the Fantastic Four or X-Men who were part of the original crossover.

 
Ok now they're just being silly.

Curious that they still have She-Hulk, though...I wonder where she falls on the FF/!FF scale?

--Patrick
 
Ok now they're just being silly.

Curious that they still have She-Hulk, though...I wonder where she falls on the FF/!FF scale?

--Patrick
I think she falls more into the Hulk side of things, even though she's been a member of the FF a few times. Which makes it tough to have her, too, since Universal still owns the rights to solo Hulk films.
 
That really shows how popular spider-man is since they don't try that crap with him, despite having the same issues.
That's because they know it's just a matter of time until they have full control of Spidey again and because Spidey's about to be in the movies. If Fox had worked out the same deal for F4 and X-Men, they'd be getting made pushes too.
 
Honestly, the Fantastic Four doesn't surprise me since they haven't really been a cash cow for Marvel in ages. Compared to Spidey, Avengers, and X-Men, they're kind of irrelevant.

Pushing out X-Men, though? That surprises me given how those x-folk carried Marvel through their darkest periods.
 
Pushing out X-Men, though? That surprises me given how those x-folk carried Marvel through their darkest periods.
Not when you know it's a temporary move to reduce the value of the IP. Disney's game plan is and always will be to undermine the IPs they don't own to regain them, in preparation for the eventual day when they lose control of Mickey Mouse's IP.
 
It's funny, because Mutants in general in the books have been pretty insufferable assholes for the last year or two, ever since Cyclops turned into Magneto Jr. I think the first time one broke that mold was the young Cyclops solo book, where he's out in space with his dad. It's also one of the best books of the last couple years. They even killed Wolverine, of all things, and he stayed dead.

It's also interesting that Deadpool's going strong and has his own mini going in Secret Wars, even though Fox still owns him, too.
 
It's also interesting that Deadpool's going strong and has his own mini going in Secret Wars, even though Fox still owns him, too.
While Deadpool has a following, his popularity never reached the heights of the X-Men or FF. I don't think Disney/Marvel as concerned about that title.
 
While Deadpool has a following, his popularity never reached the heights of the X-Men or FF. I don't think Disney/Marvel as concerned about that title.
Well yeah, Spider-Man is probably the only one, prior to the MCU, that was anywhere near them (and Cap, I suppose). Even Iron Man was a B-lister at best before the movies. Deadpool's popularity has seen a pretty sharp rise in the last few years, though, and with how much push Reynolds is putting behind the flick DP could become a pretty big seller for Fox. You also have to take into account Deadpool being a 90's creation, and not having the decades of history and recognition that the others do. For the somewhat short time the series has been around, it's pretty well-established and from what I've seen at my local comic shop, is one of the entry-level titles people pick up to get into comics.
 
Well yeah, Spider-Man is probably the only one, prior to the MCU, that was anywhere near them (and Cap, I suppose). Even Iron Man was a B-lister at best before the movies. Deadpool's popularity has seen a pretty sharp rise in the last few years, though, and with how much push Reynolds is putting behind the flick DP could become a pretty big seller for Fox. You also have to take into account Deadpool being a 90's creation, and not having the decades of history and recognition that the others do. For the somewhat short time the series has been around, it's pretty well-established and from what I've seen at my local comic shop, is one of the entry-level titles people pick up to get into comics.
But that's my point. Deadpool hasn't had the decades of popularity or the household recognition that the others do. He's still sort of a niche character to the general public. Remember, Iron Man and FF has HUGE popularity in the 60's and 70's before falling off a bit and coming back again. They had their own cartoons and appearances outside of the comics, making them at least recognizable to a few generations of the general public, even if they weren't comic readers. Deadpool has never had that kind of audience, and Marvel wants the average movie go-er audience, who's numbers dwarf comic-readers.
 
Yeah, I'd say it's only been about, what? Ten years? Ten years that Deadpool has kind of become bigger?
Yeah, give or take. He's gained a lot of ground in that time, though, appearing pretty consistently in X-Men, Avenger and Spider-Man books, not to mention cartoons and a few video games (including his own, though it apparently wasn't very good).

But that's my point. Deadpool hasn't had the decades of popularity or the household recognition that the others do. He's still sort of a niche character to the general public. Remember, Iron Man and FF has HUGE popularity in the 60's and 70's before falling off a bit and coming back again. They had their own cartoons and appearances outside of the comics, making them at least recognizable to a few generations of the general public, even if they weren't comic readers. Deadpool has never had that kind of audience, and Marvel wants the average movie go-er audience, who's numbers dwarf comic-readers.
Right, what I was trying to get at (and meant to edit to the end of that post) was if this movie does well, I think Deadpool could end up being right there with FF and X-Men in terms of properties Marvel/Disney might want back (and pull back in comic/merchandise showing until then). The downside of them taking it, though, is DP is definitely not a family-friendly property and would be better served getting the DareDevil treatment.
 
Not when you know it's a temporary move to reduce the value of the IP. Disney's game plan is and always will be to undermine the IPs they don't own to regain them, in preparation for the eventual day when they lose control of Mickey Mouse's IP.
I'm wondering if we'll see it in our lifetime.
 
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