[Rant] Minor Rant III: For a Few Hollers More

For the studio audience, if it's not clear from the urbandictionary link, the phrase is: "Come to Jesus" meeting. It's said with dire, inquisitorial overtones.

This is basically a meeting between a boss and employee that officially tells him to "shape up or ship out," IE, "If you don't stop this immediately, you're gone." It's the last ditch effort to try to get someone you'd rather not have to fire to do right.
I always imagined it was "Cut that Jive".
 

Cajungal

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My mother had a new teacher quit after a single day about 10 years ago. It's not terribly uncommon for people to realize they can't do the job until they are actually in front of the class without a wing man, so this isn't a "millennial" thing.
Don't care. Give notice. Unless you're sick, dying, on fire, or dealing with a horrible personal problem, you're a punk. Sorry, but this guy was a complete child who didn't listen when the hiring committee told him "you will work weekends at this school, and it's not unusual to leave later than five."
 

GasBandit

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Don't care. Give notice. Unless you're sick, dying, on fire, or dealing with a horrible personal problem, you're a punk. Sorry, but this guy was a complete child who didn't listen when the hiring committee told him "you will work weekends at this school, and it's not unusual to leave later than five."
It is rather astonishing how many people don't realize that the 40 hour work week is largely a myth - if you're part time, you're part time... but if you're full time, you often work late/extra days.
 
I'm not unioned.

In my line of work, it's common to work 60-80 hours a week.

I refuse to do it. Once, when we missed a deadline by a day, a director not in my chain of command gave me hell about it, and said I should have had everyone work extra to make the time.

I told him "It will never happen. The emergency deadline was completely arbitrary and made up, and we lost nothing by taking that extra day. The minute I allow my department to work unpaid overtime for arbitrary deadlines, it will never stop. The industries, like gaming, that have that work ethic also have employee turnover like McDonalds, and there's no reason for us to be replacing good people every 6 months because you feel like burning them out."

It's worth noting that the "emergency" was completely fabricated. The only reason it was "due" that day was because this yahoo was trying to exert some authority and set an unreasonable deadline, when there was no business need for it being completed that day. Once the code was in production (one day late), it didn't get any use for at least a week.

Homie don't play that ;)
 

Cajungal

Staff member
Oh you people and your 9-5's.

That's not me being condescending. I'm just dreaming about talking to adults between 7 and 4 and eating lunch at a normal sized table.
 

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That doesn't surprise me, actually.
There are just too many other things to do. Kids, karate, webcomic, books I'm writing, electronics projects, programming projects. Plenty of people at my company do it voluntarily but not me. They paid me for 40 hours, that's what they get.
 
My schedule changes every week. Every week. My off days vary. My hours on any given workday could be 7-4, 8-5, 9-6, 10-7, 11-8, 12-9, 1-10, or 2-11, with an extremely high probability that no two consecutive days will have the same hours. On top of that, my commute is just under an hour each way. When I transferred there, they tried to give me a bit of grief about the fact that I wanted every Tue off work.
I pointed out the preceding.
I get every Tue off.

--Patrick
 
Don't care. Give notice. Unless you're sick, dying, on fire, or dealing with a horrible personal problem, you're a punk. Sorry, but this guy was a complete child who didn't listen when the hiring committee told him "you will work weekends at this school, and it's not unusual to leave later than five."
What person hired as a teacher would not realize this to begin with?!?

Then again, we had one teacher's assistant who stopped coming in about a week after she started working at the school. She had gotten the flu and called out a couple of days, then she didn't show up. She wasn't answering her calls or emails from the school either. The director thought maybe her health had taken a bad turn since there was no sign that she didn't like the job or wanted to quit. They finally did get in touch with her. But who does that?! The only thing good that came out of it is that I got called to sub for her until they found someone permanent.
 
We've run the gamut here of people just not showing up for their shift, refusing to come in for a shift (after they should have been here an hour ago), to going outside an hour into their first day and never coming back.

I look on the bright side and say the OT earned from their drama buys me stuff. While they're earning a big fat zero. :p
 
I want to say we had our own millenial problem at my company, but this woman was older than me, in her mid-thirties, and her huge problem with us working overtime during busy months was largely compounded with her political views. She didn't like there being managers and a boss who got paid more than staffers or made decisions over us ... I'm not sure where anyone getting a job in America would think they were getting into a different situation.
 
I want to say we had our own millenial problem at my company, but this woman was older than me, in her mid-thirties, and her huge problem with us working overtime during busy months was largely compounded with her political views. She didn't like there being managers and a boss who got paid more than staffers or made decisions over us ... I'm not sure where anyone getting a job in America would think they were getting into a different situation.
Wait, wait, wait, are you implying that shitty, lazy workers can be something other than young people?

What a millenial way of looking at things.
 
My daughter has a friend coming over and I want her to make her bed. I want her room clean. These are reasonable
Requests. If she doesn't STFU with the back talk here in a minute I'm going to lose my shit! Gloriously and loudly.
 
Wait, wait, wait, are you implying that shitty, lazy workers can be something other than young people?

What a millenial way of looking at things.
True, but I got used to the lazy wannabe socialists being a college co-worker thing. She really wanted a government job and felt we should be run by the government directly instead of via contract, couldn't wrap her head around the boss's desire to make money. I honestly thought I'd seen the last of her like when I graduated.
 
High stress job, shift work that essentially forces newer employees to work longer hours due to forced OT rules, fast burnout (coupled with real issues of possible physical harm from intervention), and management that believes in underestimating staffing patterns...
 
Do you have ac in the summertime @jwhouk I worked for the prison system for 3 years in Texas the buildings are concrete and steel. No ac. It's horrible
I did down at the Former Place Of Work In The Civilized Part Of Wisconsin. These? HA!

Oh, by the way - shorts are verboten as part of the dress code.
 
Oh trust me I know. We had great pants and long sleeve shirts. Well.. You could get them cut to be short sleeves but sometimes you would have piss and shit thrown at you so.... I went with long sleeves
 
Senior Management, I work all the time and none of time.

I'll add a little more detail. I am a public face for a very large organization. I speak to news agencies, reporters, I write copy, handle crises and am generally involved in the public perception of the company I work for. I am expected to be available 24/7, and even on vacation, able to take calls and make decisions that could impact millions of dollars. For this I am compensated fairly.

Daily operations I try to remain out of as much as possible. However, I am responsible for two separate departments, both marketing and development, so I'm often down in the dirt on those either directing copywriting or writing it myself, or guiding business analysts on doing good requirements documentation.

Overall though, my day is mostly spent researching and strategizing - which often comes across as doing nothing.
 
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