He's a scumbag, of that there is no question. My issue was with the global-application policy statements Frank and Null made based on this guy's example. Frank modified his, but Null hasn't.
The whole "too drunk to consent" thing unravels when you start getting into details. If it is rape when a sober person has sex with a drunk person, how many drinks does the sober person have to imbibe before the sober person is legally also not responsible for their actions? Is the ability to walk really the absolute threshold, or is it just the same BAC as counts for operating a motor vehicle? Or even less? What's the magic number? What if the formerly sober person's BAC becomes higher than the already drunk person's, is the role of aggressor changed? Or does tolerance figure into it? And how do you measure/adjudicate that?
This is a legit question because you know what, women aren't angels.
Guy takes a few drinks, so does she, things happen, boom boom boom. Later on what....Regret? Anger? Expectations?
"I feel used by the guy" or "I'll take advantage of this?" (celebrity, rich guy, situation of guy I can take advantage of?) or "I won't be shamed for this"
There's so many variables and you simply don't have the answers in this situation. It's easy to judge and give your 2 cents.
Women aren't angels, I've seen what they've done, I had a personal friend fight off a rape claim for this EXACT thing in 1998.
Guess what? I believe this guy the the core and I saw what went on with this girl, the girl had expectations, I left earlier with my girlfriend at the time... he wanted 1 night stand with this girl , he just turned 18, she was 17.... so yeah.... 2 days go by and then there's knocking on the door. And the rest was history.
He went through a lot of trouble, he served
time, Neil eventually went to school elsewhere and found a really good job in Manitoba and moved away. Haven't seen him in 13-14 years now.... has a family of his own... a good childhood friend had to leave because circumstances of a girl who
lied through her teeth made sure his life was going to change. Her friends even abandoned her 1 years later and the odds are from what one told me, she was angry at Neil for humping and dumping her. Lying little Italian princess. Now twice divorced and living at home with her son and cashing in huge alimony from her 1st husband.
I learnt reaaaaaaaaal young not to mess with drinks and women. One night stands were not my thing.
Sorry for those who read this but some women aren't angels. Take it or leave it.
These women make those women who genuinely are victims, even bigger ones because not 1 but 2 people ended up victimizing them.
As for this Vroosh guy go, he's a cunt and needs to be thought a lesson. His lackies have been an issue for Montreal, particularly to review sites blasting places he's been and wasn't treated well.
Fucking immature shitbags.
