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Steven Universe

Huh well I wonder what'll be so special about Steven's bathroom-OH MY DOGCOPTER-
MINI PERIDOT! YOSH!And my theory that she couldn't summon her gem weapon is probably true!

And yes the bathroom bit is hilarious.
 
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I did not see things going in this direction; that's for sure.

Now, the Cluster is likely the goal of the fusion experiments, but I'm wondering what function it serves for Yellow Diamond.
 
Ok, the first episode of South Park was kind of a weak opener but had some good laughs, but holy shit did I lose it at this week's episode. Fuck me, the Canadian alphabet made me spit my drink. I did a literal spit take.

The way people were up in arms about the first episode had me worried but it was really nothing. As always, Stan's dad is the best part of the show.
 
I am now caught up on Rick and Morty.
I'm fine with doing the interdimensional cable episodes once a season; some of the improv is funny, but the way they animate around it is the best. Loved the Octopus Man bit because even as the voice is giggling stupid, the driver is so hard-faced and determined.
 
New Steven Universe short!

And- THEORY TIME-
notice how Amethyst said they sucked up the life to make sure they'd grow up super fast and strong? Well notice how Peridot was surprised by Steven being hurt by her slaps, implying she's surprised someone was hurt by her strength. Maybe that's because she was made -WITHOUT- sucking up life-force to enhance her age/strength?
 
And- THEORY TIME-
notice how Amethyst said they sucked up the life to make sure they'd grow up super fast and strong? Well notice how Peridot was surprised by Steven being hurt by her slaps, implying she's surprised someone was hurt by her strength. Maybe that's because she was made -WITHOUT- sucking up life-force to enhance her age/strength?
That's certainly possible, but as we've seen from Ruby, Sapphire, Pearl and Rose, not all gems are created equal. I'm wondering if part of the problem is that Gem Homeworld, and and number of the places they've landed, have run out of the life force to produce stronger gems? I would make sense that's why they've finally bothered to check Earth after a few thousand years. They're pooling their resources. I wonder if "The Cluster" may refer to a group of places that are no longer useful to the Diamond Authority, and they're getting rid of them.
 
That's certainly possible, but as we've seen from Ruby, Sapphire, Pearl and Rose, not all gems are created equal. I'm wondering if part of the problem is that Gem Homeworld, and and number of the places they've landed, have run out of the life force to produce stronger gems? I would make sense that's why they've finally bothered to check Earth after a few thousand years. They're pooling their resources. I wonder if "The Cluster" may refer to a group of places that are no longer useful to the Diamond Authority, and they're getting rid of them.
True, true, plus there is the chance that she was made ex-PLIC-itly for engineering and was not intended for combat unless aided by limb enhancers. Either way the lack of life-force for Super-Gems is very much a possibility, they could only bide their time for so long. And maybe, but it sounded like Peridot was referring to a specific object, possibly the Geode from season one.
 
The biggest on-going theory is that gems made for roles other than "kill things"are explicitly made that way as a form of population control, sort of like why worker bees/ants are much smaller than soldier ones. You make them small because being smaller helps with their work and keeps them from trying to take over. This explains why Ruby and Sapphire are small too: they were built to do something other than fight. Sapphire has future sight, so she could be a strategist or a weather forecaster (which fits the ice powers) and Ruby might be designed for forge work or something. Hell, Pearl has explicitly said that she wasn't built to fight... it's likely she's supposed to be a dancer or a librarian or something and only picked up a sword because ROSE. Amethyst looks like a smaller, rounder version of Jasper... which makes sense because both were made on Earth and Jasper said she was overcooked. They even have the same spin dash move. Who knows about Lapis...

This extends to their cultural norms as well. Sapphire and Ruby being together is odd. Pearl is "just" a pearl, which could imply they got mass produced for a single job. Jasper treats EVERYONE like shit because she's big and strong.

So really, the idea that Peridot is small isn't that odd. She works on machines... she needs to get into tight spaces. She's COMFORTABLE in tight spaces (she ran into the smallest room in the house to hide!). The limb extenders are to aid in her work and because she was sent out onto the frontier. So it's likely she was built explicitly to do what she does.
 
Welp, turns out the Cluster was what most people thought thanks to earlier episodes.

Super mega fusion monster!

The effect Steven has on others is incredible.
 
The effect Steven has on others is incredible.
It really is just because he's the only sane person on the show.

Steven: "I dunno... maybe we should talk this out?"

Garnet: "CRYSTAL GEMS! TIME TO WOOP SOME ASS!"
Pearl and Amethyst: "OKAY!"

Steven: "*facepalms*"
 
It really is just because he's the only sane person on the show.
To be fair, he didn't watch his loved ones be massacred by their own people. Or really understand that a race of super-tech aliens won't hesitate to kill him if they feel like it. But he was also was raised by Greg and *literally* has his mom in him, so I think that even when things get crazier later on, that will largely guide his moral compass.

It's funny; though they're both the heroes/protagonists of their shows, Steven is, in many ways, the antithesis of Finn on Adventure Time. I like them both, and there are a lot of parallels between the two, but their outlooks are so vastly different.
 
To be fair, he didn't watch his loved ones be massacred by their own people. Or really understand that a race of super-tech aliens won't hesitate to kill him if they feel like it. But he was also was raised by Greg and *literally* has his mom in him, so I think that even when things get crazier later on, that will largely guide his moral compass.
I keep going back to Monster Buddies, where Steven is told that his mom tried to help them too but could... but that Steven might be able to do it someday. That is really the entire point of Steven's arch: as much as he's like his mother, it's the stuff that he got from growing up with Greg as a father and the Gems as guardians that have made him into a weapon of pure kindness that is able to gain the trust of anyone who crosses his path. Though I suspect that, by the end of this season, Steven's going to be faced with someone who isn't interested in being reasonable.

Probably when Malachite breaks loose and defuses into Jasper and Lapis... or when Yellow Diamond decides to come to Earth personally after it doesn't EXPLODE when the Cluster awakens.

It's funny; though they're both the heroes/protagonists of their shows, Steven is, in many ways, the antithesis of Finn on Adventure Time. I like them both, and there are a lot of parallels between the two, but their outlooks are so vastly different.
And at the same time, Finn's still willing to talk stuff out if it's apparent that there really isn't any reason to kill anybody. I mean... for fuck's sake, he hangs out with Marcelline (an actual evil vampire who does mean stuff) and Princess Bubblegum (an honest to god dictator) and is still able to find redeemable features in both, even when they lie to him or use him... and it's REALLY hard for young men of that age to move past rejection and still want to be friends with the people who rejected them, but Finn is mostly fine with PB and even Fire Princess at this point.
 
It really is just because he's the only sane person on the show.

Steven: "I dunno... maybe we should talk this out?"

Garnet: "CRYSTAL GEMS! TIME TO WOOP SOME ASS!"
Pearl and Amethyst: "OKAY!"

Steven: "*facepalms*"
Its kinda funny how Garnet starts out as the stern and practical leader, but later eps show while less in quantity, when she has an emotional outburst it is BIG! She is an eternal FLAME baby! CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!!

But on the topic of the Gems not thinking outside the box, keep in mind they've had the same mission for thousands of years: Find corrupted Gems, poof them, bubble them, wait for next corrupted Gem. They have been in a RUT for thousands of years, and Steven's help is slowly getting them out of it.

Probably when Malachite breaks loose and defuses into Jasper and Lapis... or when Yellow Diamond decides to come to Earth personally after it doesn't EXPLODE when the Cluster awakens.
That's right- CLICKETH THIS SPOILER IF YOU DARE! Any whoozle fazoozle, the Yellow Diamond thing has a high chance of happening...unless she's ALL READY ON EARTH! On the topic though, I wonder why she's ignoring all of Peridot's messages?

And one thing I wonder about Malachite, I wonder if after they seperate...one of them might want to get back together? They're all ready a clear metaphor for the abusive relationship, if they went that route it would be REALLY interesting.
And at the same time, Finn's still willing to talk stuff out if it's apparent that there really isn't any reason to kill anybody. I mean... for fuck's sake, he hangs out with Marcelline (an actual evil vampire who does mean stuff) and Princess Bubblegum (an honest to god dictator) and is still able to find redeemable features in both, even when they lie to him or use him... and it's REALLY hard for young men of that age to move past rejection and still want to be friends with the people who rejected them, but Finn is mostly fine with PB and even Fire Princess at this point.
She's not evil she's a thousand years old, and just track or her moooooooooooral code.
 
That's right- CLICKETH THIS SPOILER IF YOU DARE! Any whoozle fazoozle, the Yellow Diamond thing has a high chance of happening...unless she's ALL READY ON EARTH! On the topic though, I wonder why she's ignoring all of Peridot's messages?

And one thing I wonder about Malachite, I wonder if after they seperate...one of them might want to get back together? They're all ready a clear metaphor for the abusive relationship, if they went that route it would be REALLY interesting.
My money is on Jasper

I guess the next couple of episodes will be "one of the character alone with Peridot episodes". According to the description of the next episode the Gems build a robot in a barn. Which probably mean Pearl tries to build a robot and Peridot angers her telling her how antique her knowledge is until they work together.
 
My money is on Jasper

I guess the next couple of episodes will be "one of the character alone with Peridot episodes". According to the description of the next episode the Gems build a robot in a barn. Which probably mean Pearl tries to build a robot and Peridot angers her telling her how antique her knowledge is until they work together.
Agreed on both fronts, I also can't wait to see what kind of robot they make. Hopefully it'll be all junktacular.
 
Though I suspect that, by the end of this season, Steven's going to be faced with someone who isn't interested in being reasonable.
He already has, if you consider Jasper/the season 1 finale. While it made him more cautious about his non-Gem loved ones, it hasn't shaken his core (yet).

And at the same time, Finn's still willing to talk stuff out if it's apparent that there really isn't any reason to kill anybody. I mean... for fuck's sake, he hangs out with Marcelline (an actual evil vampire who does mean stuff) and Princess Bubblegum (an honest to god dictator) and is still able to find redeemable features in both, even when they lie to him or use him... and it's REALLY hard for young men of that age to move past rejection and still want to be friends with the people who rejected them, but Finn is mostly fine with PB and even Fire Princess at this point.
Finn does talk things through, but his first instinct in a situation is usually to attack. He isn't without reason or sympathy, but his tactic is usually "conquer, then resolve". Steven, on the other hand, only fights if he has no other option, and even then, his powers are usually used to keep harm away from himself or from others. For Finn, it's important to him to have a sword and over-power his opponents as quickly as possible. For Steven, he's happy to give away his sword, and try to keep others from physical harm, by shield, bubble or negotiation. They both do try to look for the good in others, but their paths that get them to that point are very different.

I will give Finn a lot of credit for learning how to handle his relationships like an adult, in the cases of PB ("just because you have feelings for someone doesn't require them to feel the same way back, nor should they be punished for it") or Flame Princess ("don't play games with someone's feelings"). He makes mistakes, but he does try to atone for them.
 
He already has, if you consider Jasper/the season 1 finale. While it made him more cautious about his non-Gem loved ones, it hasn't shaken his core (yet).
Steven works best when he's the one who gets to set the terms of how he interacts.

- Lapis only opened up to him when he talked to her... and when he asked to see her a second time, she obliged him because he was the only one who cared what she wanted. Ultimately, she decided to entrap Jasper entirely because there was a chance he could get hurt if she didn't. None of this worked when the Gems tried to get involved AT ALL.
- Peridot opened up to Steven because he had (repeatedly) shown that he wasn't there to hurt her, even going so far as to let her go to hear what she had to say... but he could only do it when the Gems weren't around. She took advantage of him, but even so I think she realizes he would have helped her regardless. Now she's willing to set aside her animosity for Steven's sake, even defending him when the Gems are angry.

Compare this to his interactions with Jasper: the first time they meet, she's going to destroy them because they were messing with Peridot (and Peridot was OKAY WITH THIS). The second time, she barely gets a glimpse of him because he was busy trying to help the others. In other words, Jasper and Steven haven't really had a conversation... as far as she's concerned, he's Rose Quartz, and she doesn't understand how wrong that actually is. Steven understands that there are some things he can't get through to (like the Fusion Experiments) but he's never really had it blow up in his face yet... this needs to happen before the final act begins.

My prediction? Steven's trust is going to get one of the Gems shattered (probably Peridot at this point, assuming she doesn't betray them all again) and THAT is going to make him retreat into himself for awhile.
 
Malachite

I don't think they're going to defuse to be the problem. Something really wrong is going on with them in this state and I think Malachite herself is going to more of an issue. Defusing will likely be scaling down the problem. I'm worried this is going to cause even more damage to Lapis's psyche, but who knows what it's going to do to Jasper. She certainly blames Steven for her current predicament.

Oh yeah, thread's in full Steven Universe now, kids!
 
MALACHITE VERSUS CLUSTER- Sunday night on Beach Underground City Wrestling!

I still wonder IF Lapis will join the CGs, Peridot I can buy, but with Lapis' arguably justified by her perspective yet still wrong actions I don't know.
 
MALACHITE VERSUS CLUSTER- Sunday night on Beach Underground City Wrestling!

I still wonder IF Lapis will join the CGs, Peridot I can buy, but with Lapis' arguably justified by her perspective yet still wrong actions I don't know.
I foresee Lapis helping them for Steven's sake and maybe staying on Earth because where else can she go, but a Crystal Gem? No way. Not unless they can admit what they did was wrong and make up for it.
 
I foresee Lapis helping them for Steven's sake and maybe staying on Earth because where else can she go, but a Crystal Gem? No way. Not unless they can admit what they did was wrong and make up for it.
I feel like Garnet is the only one right now with that capacity.

I hate to say this, because I like Lapis, but we have no idea what went on during the war with her. She seems pretty powerful; for all we know she's responsible for turning a number of the Crystal Gems' friends and allies into gem shards or the screwed-up gems that become monsters. There may be more animosity there than we know.
 
I feel like Garnet is the only one right now with that capacity.

I hate to say this, because I like Lapis, but we have no idea what went on during the war with her. She seems pretty powerful; for all we know she's responsible for turning a number of the Crystal Gems' friends and allies into gem shards or the screwed-up gems that become monsters. There may be more animosity there than we know.
At the same time, they kept her in a mirror for hundreds, if not thousands, of years... treating her like an object AND a prisoner. There's a serious ethics question there... it may have been kinder to shatter her gem than to do THAT.

Regardless, it's going to come up again sooner rather than later.
 
It also says something that they didn't use Rose's fountain to heal her cracked Gem, I can not WAIT to hear both sides of this.

I gotta get that databook one of these days, I hear its pretty good!
 
Question: am I the only one who doesn't watch either Steven Universe or Adventure Time, but still reads this thread and can actually follow along by now? :p
 
Question: am I the only one who doesn't watch either Steven Universe or Adventure Time, but still reads this thread and can actually follow along by now? :p
I can see why you could in the case of Steven Universe, as it's heavily serialized with each episode happening after the last (except for the flashback episodes featuring Greg and Rose). Adventure Time though? It's a bit... looser. Each episode happens after the last, but few episodes have relevant details with each other as they are aired. You could go 5-6 episodes without relevant details.
 
But if your into it you don't want to miss an ep either, it can be like four eps with silly plots and then BAM- sub-plot continuation. Last ep I missed-
Lady Rainicorn revealed she was pregnant.
How I missed those spoilers I'll never know.
 
At the same time, they kept her in a mirror for hundreds, if not thousands, of years... treating her like an object AND a prisoner. There's a serious ethics question there... it may have been kinder to shatter her gem than to do THAT.

Regardless, it's going to come up again sooner rather than later.
Or just bubble her. Peridot established that those who are bubbled don't experience time, just suspended animation. She popped back in mid-sentence.

No, I totally agree with you, it's fucked up. I'm just saying they may distrust her for a reason, even though leaving her in the mirror for five thousand years was horrifying.
 
Question: am I the only one who doesn't watch either Steven Universe or Adventure Time, but still reads this thread and can actually follow along by now? :p
I only occasionally check this thread, see seven pages of steven universe discussion, and then leave again. I don't even post the stuff I watch, because it gets lost in all the steven universe.
 
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