[PC Game] World of Warcraft: Catch All Thread

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Ravenpoe said:
I doubt Blizzard cares about the RP community.
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Possibly. I know some games (The Secret World, Star Trek Online, Star Wars: The Old Republic, The Elder Scrolls Online, etc.) are acutely aware of of just how substantial their RP communities are and bend over backwards to give them shit to to buy and places to hang out. For example, in The Secret World you are guaranteed at least 2-3 new sets of clothes and 1-2 pets per a major holiday or Issue release... and they know damn well how much people were willing to pay for the option to ride vehicles (30 bucks last time I looked). Star Wars releases at least 1 new weapon per weapon type and 5-6 new customizable armor sets per a month. These put these things in 4 dollar boxes and people DO drop cash for the sets of 24 boxes all the god damn time... fuck, people buy the 10 dollar boxes that have the rarest outfits. People can laugh and point at TOR for not having a huge player base but when I look at the hundreds of weapons and armor pieces for sale on the market (that only come from boxes) I realize that EA doesn't -need- a huge player base because the one they have is full of whales. It's not even pay to win because all they are selling is empty shells you can stick stat items into and you have to get those through game play!

Basically, if you want to make money selling clothes, weapons, mounts, toys, or pets that people can stick onto their costumes, the RP community (your most dedicated player base because they have attachments beyond the game itself) is where your whales reside. They will drop cash (or gold that other people want so THEY'LL buy stuff just to sell to them) just to keep in fashion with everyone else. As such, it pays to consider them when developing new content because they will bankroll it 2 bucks at a time.
 
CynicismKills

CynicismKills

So Blizz dropped a week of playtime in my lap today, figured I'd boot the old girl up and see how 6.2 is. Still opening a lot of stuff, but I might try to crank out the 15k or so gold I need to get a Token and get myself some breathing room to try out the new raids and such.
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

There has been a lot of concern over the Artifact weapons in the next expansion. It looks like they will be the only weapon you get, as they will not have any other weapon drops, with the ability to upgrade them like old weapons using "Relics", which are basically a slotted item you can put in the Artifact to increase it's base stats. Many are concerned that this will push the "sameness" many people feel, even with the special artifact customizations. On the bright side the Artifact CAN be transmoged over, so if you have a favorite weapon style you can pretty much have it the whole expansion with the Artifact.
 
CynicismKills

CynicismKills

If anyone's Wyrmrest Alliance and has about 10k gold to spare I will do terrible things to good people. Also I'll be running old raids tonight on multiple characters to scavenge gold.
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Too bad you don't have a full T3 Garrison, because once you get that puppy set, a LVL3 Inn, Trading Post and Salvage Yard, and a good follower spread, you are rolling in gold. I make a couple thousand gold a day and I don't even try. (Also have a JC, which gives a daily that consistently gives 250G a day for a few materials you get out of your mine, then just sell the rest for some more gold)
 
CynicismKills

CynicismKills

ScytheRexx said:
Too bad you don't have a full T3 Garrison, because once you get that puppy set, a LVL3 Inn, Trading Post and Salvage Yard, and a good follower spread, you are rolling in gold. I make a couple thousand gold a day and I don't even try. (Also have a JC, which gives a daily that consistently gives 250G a day for a few materials you get out of your mine, then just sell the rest for some more gold)
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I've got the l3 Garrison on a couple characters, just have to get the missions rolling again. I stopped playing early this year.
 
DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Annnnd TomTom and Lightheaded are officially abandonware. Not going to begrudge the developer for wanting an actual life, but those were two of my mainstay addons. So it goes.
 
Dave

Dave

Staff member
I only used them on the Timeless Isles to find the treasure chests. Now there's absolutely no reason to go there unless you are trying to get mounts or pets.
 
CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Blizzard's getting slapped around by a DDoS attack tonight, WoW servers have been brought down, back up, and now down again. Don't know if anything else on Bnet is getting slammed but WoW's a mess.
 
DarkAudit

DarkAudit

I'm almost bored enough tonight to renew my subscription. Almost. I haven't reinstalled WoW since doing the fresh install of Win 10.
 
AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I'm probably going to sub for a month once they do the big hunter changes (Spear Hunters are coming back and becoming the focus of the Survival tree) but nothing serious.
 
AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Ravenpoe said:
The Secret World is pretty nice.
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I highly recommend TSW, but get it on sale during the Autumn/Winter Steam Sale. It'll be like 15 bucks for the base game, +10 bucks for each DLC chapter (You can GET to Tokyo but can't DO anything there without dlc) or you can pay $60 for everything up to the end of the Tokyo Story (which means you only need 1 piece of DLC, which gives you the Tokyo Dungeon and a Nightmare Mode Version of the Orochi Tower). It's buy to play, so 15 bucks gets you a huge chunk of game that has no sub. The only issue is that TSW does not play like other MMOs... it's very free form, so you have to decide what powers mesh well together. Thankfully, the game is WAY easier from Solomon Island to Transylvania and the tutorials have been improved since I last played.

TSW also has a short story game coming out soon called The Park, which takes place in the ruined amusement park of Solomon Island (a place you can visit and do missions at in TSW). It's about a mother searching for her son.
 
Dei

Dei

I really don't like playing solo in MMOs, so while I played a bit for the last two expansions, it hasn't really gripped me since my guild broke up at the end of Cata.
 
DarkAudit

DarkAudit

TIL about the Pathfinder achievement to unlock Draenor flying. I'd planned on leveling up my Horde rogue, but it can wait for now. :)
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Dei said:
I really don't like playing solo in MMOs, so while I played a bit for the last two expansions, it hasn't really gripped me since my guild broke up at the end of Cata.
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Ya, I am mostly a solo player. I like grouping but I never liked relying on it, even back in vanilla or BC. I was more likely just to skip content then deal with the social pressures after some really bad experiences trying to raid in vanilla (I lost a guild very close to me due to raid drama). In that regard WoD has been amazing. Heirlooms so I can level faster, the Garrison giving me both high end loot and loads of cash, reduction in the amount of raids one has to deal with, no dungeon farming required to stay relevant, etc.

Overall the expansion has been a positive experience for me, but so many people hate the Garrison I know we will likely go back to the older ways of doing things, like how Valor is coming back in 6.3.4 or whatever.
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Not sure how many of you are keeping up with BlizzCon, but lots of great info today. I really can't go over it all but check out MMO-Champion. Some of my favorites though are the new Transmogrification system, removal of spec restrictions (you can now change into any spec at any time, no more limited to two), and the tuning of classes to make specs more unique (Hunter Survival Melee, Shadow Priest Old God Theme, Sub Rogue Ninja Mobility).
 
Dei

Dei

I am getting really tired of Blizzard and their compete inability to decide if Disc priests should heal with shields or with damage. I thought they did an excellent job with the shield mechanic, and kind of hate the Atonement mechanic, but I guess at least the mechanic in Legion requires SOME thought, unlike what they turned it into for MoP.
 
DarkAudit

DarkAudit

If anyone has a spare 20K gold lying around, I need a few Medallions of the Legion so I can get that last 5K rep with the Saberstalkers and unlock flying. :)

(It's for Polnara, Wyrmrest Accord Alliance side. Thank you for your time (and gold).)
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Been playing the Alpha. I think people are going to be weirded out by Legion. It's incredibly fun, but it changes a lot of the feel of the game on a pretty heavy visual level. All the spells and abilities feel like their visual effects and animation have been ramped up to 11. My paladin feels less like a holy warrior and more like a holy god that has some down to smash enemies with magical hammers and swords from the sky. You really have to see it to understand, but all the new animations and effects just feel over the top, which can be a good thing, or a bad thing, depending on how you look at the game.
 
Dave

Dave

Staff member
I hear they are bringing back weapon skills. Like you have to level up you sword skill, etc. Is true?
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Dave said:
I hear they are bringing back weapon skills. Like you have to level up you sword skill, etc. Is true?
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Who told you that? No, they are not bringing back weapon skill. Actually they removed a few more barriers, like blanket buffs are gone (now all buffs are limited and situational) and removed spec switching restrictions. You can change talents and specs at any time between any option open to you without requiring any books reagents or NPCs. You could go out questing as Ret, meet a guy and switch to tank while working together on rares, then meet another guy who is already a tank and switch to heals. No restriction other then the switch time, gear differences, and lower artifact level (since you likely won't be leveling all three artifacts at once).
 
Soupy

Soupy

I've gotten back into WoW in the last few weeks and echo your earlier thoughts ScytheRexx, love the garrison and all it's casual solo goodness.

Legion looks intriguing enough that I preordered it.
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

So deciding while waiting for Legion (it's looking great btw, been playing the alpha) I decided to max out some of my alts. Most have been sitting in the 80-90 range. I recently found out my Garrison has a mission that gives me an "Elixir of Rapid Learning", which for those that don't know, gives you 300% XP for 15 minutes. I collected three so far, and if I wanted could buy some off the AH for about three days worth of gold. I used those three to max out my mage, druid, and warlock.

Now 15 minutes does not sound like a lot of time, but I discovered a way around that. I am usually level 92 by the time I finish the WoD opening quests and get the level 2 Garrison, I then buy a bunch of the "Elixir of Accelerated Learning" from the quartermaster (+20XP in Draenor, costs 100 GRES) and make sure I am outfitted in all my heirlooms (+50% XP). I then head to Gorgrond and start doing the Bonus Objectives, making sure to stop once I am a single kill / pickup from completion. By the time I finish those I might even find myself at 94, which means I also go do the ones in Talador. If I am lucky and have a friend online, I also kill the elites for the quest drop items. There are around 16 of those guys that give quest items worth a good chunk of XP, but only a few classes can solo them.

Once I have those nearly done, I chug the potion, and fly to every point doing the last kill / pickup, turning in any quest items, and picking up any above ground treasures (with all the bonuses, treasures give you around 1/8th of a level per pickup). By the time I am done I am either level 100 or somewhere close, at which point I just collect treasures in Arak until I go over 100.

I should stress that if you have flying, treasures are stupidly good way to level overall. Even without the 300% elixir each treasure is about a quests worth of experience, and with flying you don't even have to fight over them, you just fly up a hill, grab it, and done. You can technically level up to 100 just collecting all the treasures on the map, if you really wanted.

Time to work on that warrior so I can enjoy all those sweet new animations.

P.S. If you are more of a long haul player that only gets on a few minutes a day, you get XP any time you mine ore in your garrison mine, which you get at level 92. It takes around 250 nodes to level with heirloom / accelerated potion boosts, and the mine has around 20 nodes a day (if you upgrade to level 2). Add in the XP garrison missions, and you could "technically" level without ever leaving the Garrison, though it would require persistence. It's a great way to just keep your alts gaining some light XP for little effort until you finally decide to officially level them.
 
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DarkAudit

DarkAudit

ScytheRexx said:
So deciding while waiting for Legion (it's looking great btw, been playing the alpha) I decided to max out some of my alts. Most have been sitting in the 80-90 range. I recently found out my Garrison has a mission that gives me an "Elixir of Rapid Learning", which for those that don't know, gives you 300% XP for 15 minutes. I collected three so far, and if I wanted could buy some off the AH for about three days worth of gold. I used those three to max out my mage, druid, and warlock.

Now 15 minutes does not sound like a lot of time, but I discovered a way around that. I am usually level 92 by the time I finish the WoD opening quests and get the level 2 Garrison, I then buy a bunch of the "Elixir of Accelerated Learning" from the quartermaster (+20XP in Draenor, costs 100 GRES) and make sure I am outfitted in all my heirlooms (+50% XP). I then head to Gorgrond and start doing the Bonus Objectives, making sure to stop once I am a single kill / pickup from completion. By the time I finish those I might even find myself at 94, which means I also go do the ones in Talador. If I am lucky and have a friend online, I also kill the elites for the quest drop items. There are around 16 of those guys that give quest items worth a good chunk of XP, but only a few classes can solo them.

Once I have those nearly done, I chug the potion, and fly to every point doing the last kill / pickup, turning in any quest items, and picking up any above ground treasures (with all the bonuses, treasures give you around 1/8th of a level per pickup). By the time I am done I am either level 100 or somewhere close, at which point I just collect treasures in Arak until I go over 100.

I should stress that if you have flying, treasures are stupidly good way to level overall. Even without the 300% elixir each treasure is about a quests worth of experience, and with flying you don't even have to fight over them, you just fly up a hill, grab it, and done. You can technically level up to 100 just collecting all the treasures on the map, if you really wanted.

Time to work on that warrior so I can enjoy all those sweet new animations.
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Wowhead has a guide on how to do exactly this. You do bonus quests in Shadowmood, Gorgrond, and Spires except for one kill, then chug the elixir and the one from your garrison quartermaster before flying a route to pick up treasures in the zone. Then you finish off the bonus quests.

The Savage Gift from the Winter Veil garrison dailies has a chance to drop the elixir, a mount, or a 50 ilvl follower boost.
 
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