The game is years out.
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GasBandit
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Plenty of time for the hardware to be too old to support "current gen graphics" then.
As a console game, framerate was always going to be an issue, I know, but that one part of the video did more to douse my enthusiasm for the game than anything else I've seen, even the awful team four star abridged series.
What I always wanted was for Square to remake Final Fantasy 7. What I got was SquareEnix remaking Final Fantasy 7...
I'm fine with the action RPG style combat... my main complaint with Final Fantasy 13 was that I couldn't micromanage my characters in battle (because the roles SUCKED) and at least I'm getting that here.
I was always partial to Zero from Ace Combat Zero. You really got that "duel" vib from the track thanks to the Spanish Guitar, which really sold that final fight at Round Table against your friend and rival.
I will be patiently waiting in my F-18 Superhornet for this to come out.
That's another favorite.
The FF7 trailer actually piqued my interest. I couldn't help getting a smile on my face. Kind of surprised they're keeping the old dialogue, but then again, it's not one of Square's poorer translations (i.e. Xenogears or Final Fantasy Tactics, though I'll defend FFT's shitty translation over the PSP version on readability alone).
I'm fine with the new combat system ... whatever it might be. Final Fantasy combat in most games wasn't too interesting and I've played better turn-based combat since 1997.
I'm fine with the new combat system ... whatever it might be. Final Fantasy combat in most games wasn't too interesting and I've played better turn-based combat since 1997.
And how much, Square Enix, would buying all of the parts cost me? Pray tell!
So... they're going to retell the story using a more modern combat system, but presented in such a way as to appeal to the modern sensibilities of the gamers of today who maybe weren't old enough/live to enjoy the game in it's original form? That's not a TERRIBLE idea... it's even one I could get behind... but it's not what they've been selling this as.
I'm still not seeing a deal breaker yet but they need to start throwing in some stuff that -I- want to see, like Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus, and Advent Children as DLC campaigns that finally answer some of the questions they raised regarding the actual overall plot.
I'm still not seeing a deal breaker yet but they need to start throwing in some stuff that -I- want to see, like Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus, and Advent Children as DLC campaigns that finally answer some of the questions they raised regarding the actual overall plot.
This is likely their way to release content without having to wait for the whole thing to be done. FFVII was a big game for its time; if they want to get into detail for each part of it, that's going to be a lot of work.
That said, the trailer raised my interest and this announcement drops it. I have no plans to bolster Square-Enix's flailing business model by paying for FFVII part 1, part 2, part 3, etc. They're going to milk this engine like they needed to for FFXIII, except this time they know people will buy it. No thanks.
That said, the trailer raised my interest and this announcement drops it. I have no plans to bolster Square-Enix's flailing business model by paying for FFVII part 1, part 2, part 3, etc. They're going to milk this engine like they needed to for FFXIII, except this time they know people will buy it. No thanks.
To be fair, this engine is being used for FF15, Kingdom Hearts 3, AND Final Fantasy 7 HD. This is pretty sound, because at least one of those is likely to be a monster hit and to pay for the engine in one iteration instead of 3. That's pretty sound business and I could see them using it again for something like a Vagrant Story: The Phantom Pain HD remake or a new Brave Fencer Musashi game or maybe even a remake of The Bouncer. They can really do SO much more with this than they could with the FF13 engine.
Don't you tug at my heartstrings, you fucker!
I...don't actually know how I feel about that. On the one hand, it was one of the most hilariously over the top beat-em-ups ever and the subject of hours and hours of playthrough among myself and my college friends.
On the other hand, it was terrible.
GasBandit
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FFVII leaned hard on breakthrough visuals, by which gamers of the time were generally blown away. Previous to 7, final fantasy hadn't really changed its visual style/quality that much since 3 (American 2), or you could even conceivably say since the very first one. Naturally since the PS1 had so much more hardware oomph than the SNES, it could do a lot more in the way of 3D modelling, graphical quality, and of course high quality (for the time) cutscenes. But really, if you get down to brass tacks, I liked the story/combat/characters of 6 better than 7.
That said, it wasn't awful, but it wasn't the best one. At least it wasn't 8. Or 10. Or everything that came after. Egh.
That said, it wasn't awful, but it wasn't the best one. At least it wasn't 8. Or 10. Or everything that came after. Egh.
FF8 is actually my favorite, followed by 7... I'll be in the corner 
I always felt like the plot of 7 was less important than the consistency of it's theme; Loss. Final Fantasy 7 is the story of a group of people who have all experienced great personal loss being confronted with the very real reality that they could lose everything if they don't learn to give a fuck... and how they come together as friends to essentially get over their issues so they can stop someone who won't/can't. It's very much a nihilism vs optimism story and while some parts of it are REALLY DUMB, other parts of it are memorable to this day for a reason.
figmentPez
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FF7 was the last FF game I played, and FF4 was the peak of the series for me. When I was playing FF6 I felt like there was way too much side story that wasn't fully fleshed out, as well as hidden items/events that all but required a game guide to uncover. (I still wonder if there are parts of that game that have never been uncovered). FF7 seemed to me to head even more in that direction, with tons of virtually unconnected events, hidden knowledge, and grinding. Oh, the grinding necessary to find some of this stuff.
Me neither. We can sit in the corner together.I've never played any of the FFs
FF8 was originally going to be two games, with the Laguna game coming first and what would become FF8 coming second. Then Square Enix hit a serious money crunch and the Laguna game idea was abandoned and shoehorned into the one we got. This is also the same cash issue that reduced the second disk of Xenogears to sitting in a chair: halfway though development they had half their budget taken to finance FF8 instead.
GasBandit
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The other thing that was kind of impressive about 8 was it was the first game I remember seeing that managed to use dynamic FMV layering in such a way that made it possible for your 3D rendered character to actively move through a playing FMV sequence with depth, where you'd pass behind some things but not other things (like in the Garden battle).
I honestly feel like Ni No Kuni and Dragon Quest 8 have set an impossibly high standard for that kind of game at this point.