[TV] Talk about the last TV you watched, the catchall thread
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Cool, I'll check it out then.
That's what I mean. The only reason I can see for doing it is because saying something is based on a comic or graphic novel is popular right now, so just as promotional matters, while cutting out pretty much everything from the comic.
If anything, the show seems more based on what Neil Gaiman conceived the comic to be before it existed i.e. before Michael Carey made something amazing out of it. And I say that as a fan of Gaiman.
Anybody watching X-Files? I thought the first episode was sort of all over the place... like, if they had made it a two hour premiere it would have been fine but they crammed it all into an hour so it's nonsense now? Though I do like the post War on Terror direction that it's taking towards it's overall "cause" for all of this.
X-Files? Feeling like nonsense? Surely you jest.
Dammit, Scully, why do you -still- not believe Mulder?
Regarding Episode 2...
Did you see how fucking casual Scully and Mulder were about those orderlies throwing that girl back into isolaiton? She had literally started shooting stuff off that nearby cart as she was resisting and they even mentioned it! Come on guys, that's pretty amazing.
figmentPez
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I've been rewatching Star Trek: Enterprise. It's fun, and pretty bad at points, but I think my biggest problem is that they write humanity as a Mary Sue. Not individual humans, but our entire species. No one can stay mad at us, better technology can't defeat us, we even manage to come out on top in fistfights. I know this is all pretty standard for Star Trek, but in Enterprise it just feels inevitable. It doesn't come across as a surprise, or as a spunky underdog coming out on top. It just feels like the show is shoving it down our throat that humans are the best and we're the real reason for the federation, and humans can do anything, and humans will surpass everyone, and ugh.
GasBandit
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One night in sickbay and the show's a groaner
Can't be too careful with the captain's dog
T'Pol plus decon gel means instant boners
Just don't let Tripp read through her personal log
She totally ships him with an alien frog
One planet's very like another when shapeshifting alien women roofie you, brother!
figmentPez
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Don't get me started on Subcommander T'Pointy.
Saw Bo Burnham's special, real good stuff.
GasBandit
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Finally, a reason to start up the torrent client again.
Well, that and venture brothers.
Tonight's X-Files was cocobananas in the way I love from the old show. Also, I loved how Mulder IMMEDIATELY starts waving his phone camera around the second he thinks something is up.
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This is true, but it's also kind of true of Star Trek in general. I remember back in college my friend and I were discussing this about TNG, which was still airing at the time. Star Trek is somewhat unique in that in most modern Sci-Fis, humans suck. But not in Trek. Humans kick ass in Trek for a refreshing change.
Dave
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Just watched the season finale of The Expanse. I liked it a lot, but because it's not going to be back until 2017 I read the books.
Man, I do NOT like what they did to Holden. In the books he's decisive and a good captain. In the show he's very wishy-washy and Naomi is the driving force. There are other things, like the Indian lady being added WAY early in the story for no real reason and the message to Julie's dad that showed his involvement super duper early. And the whole spy thing...just dumb. And they wasted a LOT of time on Eros when they could have been moving the story forward.
And the little girl? Ugh.
And the little girl? Ugh.
Yeah, I liked it, haven't read the books myself but just ordered the first three from Amazon.
Don't knock the spy, he's Adam Jensen and he didn't ask for this!
I see it more that Humans are special because they rose above their inner tendencies, unlike those other races, which are all stereotypes.
Characters like Worf, Spock, T'Pol, etc. don't count because their original tendencies were corrupted by Human influence/DNA/etc. Contact with Humans "reformed" them (in both senses of the word).
--Patrick
The ultimate failing of Roddenberry's vision for Star Trek is that he could not conceive of any compelling reason that a person would use to reject Federation philosophy. Even as he has the Federation say they respect other cultures and philosophies, it is very apparent that we, the viewer, are supposed to see these as backward and wrong cultures. There is never an instance where the crew find a culture that makes them seriously question what the Federation does... until DS9 brought us the Maquis and Section 31 anyway, but those happened after Roddenberry was gone.
The Vulcans also rose above their inner influences, leaving behind their passion and aggression by embracing logic and stoicism.
Except for those damn Romulans.
...reading this Star Trek is looking a BIT more pro-imperialism than I remember.
Come Star Trek Online and the aftermath of the Hobus supernova, where a bit more of Romulan early history comes to light when they start building New Romulus, it really feels like the Vulcans were the assholes in this story, not the Romulans.
If you want, you can watch from the point of view of history, in that since we (Humans) are the ones recounting the story, we've played up the Human side of things in the accounts created for our own consumption.
--Patrick
That's a huge issue in the fandom really. DS9 has been compared to a British Outpost in a port in India more than once, with the Federation basically undertaking "the white man's burdon" of bringing order to the local savages who keep killing each other.
The show feels self aware of this though, with things like Sisko "going native" ala Allan Quartermaine in Africa and the general contempt the locals have for the hypocritical Federation.
Well that's good then, still feels weird though, not Dr.Mccoy's obvious racism towards Spock weird, but weird.
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Season 3 of Bates Motel was added to Netflix this week, and I'm already hooked again.
Is that good? I was a little torn with how it looks like thematically like it could be a good prequel, but no-where NEAR time accurate.
It can't be any worse than the numerous sequels.
I think it's great. Highmore is fantastic, his mom is a super creep, and it's an interesting take on what childhood must have been like for such a warped person.
Brooklyn 99 was okay tonight...but I think some sub-text can be seen with how Jake's former partner-
Its a good thing for that car scene, or else HOO boy. Loved the B-plot though.
is a dirty cop...and black....while Jake's white partner Boyle mistrusted him and turned out to be right.