[Movies] The Upcoming Movies Trailer Thread
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Yeah I think Tron: Legacy had a lot of promise. I'm not quite sure it lived up to it - a few plot points felt rushed - but overall I liked it and wouldn't mind seeing the story continue.
That looks pretty promising, actually. I'm in!
That wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. I think I'm in.[DOUBLEPOST=1457016398,1457016314][/DOUBLEPOST]
Also this. We kind of need to know why the other guys aren't doing this anymore and why there aren't Ghostbuster franchises around the world. "They are old and don't want to anymore" is perfectly fine but I'd like to see it addressed at least.
Well, we know that several members of the old cast are making appearances. And the trailer mentioned "30 years ago" and such. So it might still be a sequel, only with a whole new cast.
Personally, I think it looks fun and the special effects on the ghosts looks AMAZING.
The only thing I'm a little bothered by is one member of the team is another black, street level, non-sciencey person. Again. Though maybe they'll do a twist where she's a science prodigy who couldn't afford a higher education. That'd be some clever social commentary.
fade
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Yeah, that bothered me as well.
I'm in. Looks promising.
Hmm. It looks like it's a fun campy movie just like the originals. I'm glad it's a sequal in timing, but they're obviously re-using many of the jokes and gags from the first one, with very minor differences. Being slimed, the hearse, "I'm sure the ghost is nice...". The callbacks to other movies (head turning, "the power of pain compels you") are new enough, but the mixture still seems to be heavily remake territory rather than sequel territory.
That said, a trailer is always aimed at an audience, and this one was aimed at those who loved the original and are worried about whether the film will capture the campy feel of the originals. It does. Perhaps to excess, but I think it shows that the film is going to be right in the same vein as the originals.
As far as the portrayal of the black character, they've got three wicked smart women, and they're subverting the hot secretary role by making the object male. You can't get everything you want, but I'm curious - if they transferred the street smarts to one of the other comedians wouldn't they just be considered white trash, culturally? It would be hard to pull off well. There are many examples of black characters in movies being valued and respected for their street smarts, while similar white characters are often negatively portrayed.
Plus there's a lot to be said for putting a character in a trope, then using it to provide commentary, or breaking the trope. Perhaps they won't do that.
Regardless, I wonder if a "perfect socially just" movie is possible that is also a blockbuster. Blockbusters depend on a strong cultural foundation that allows them to create a story in 90 minutes without having to give each character 30 minutes of backstory. This is done by tropes, roles, etc, and they needn't necessarily be negative. Street smarts are valued in our society, so this doesn't have to be a negative portrayal.
I'm certain they'll be playing on the "smart person has something obvious fly over her head" trope as well, which will play positively towards the street smart person, and will reinforce the idea that there are different kinds of intellect and none are necessarily better or worse than the other. Street smart person explains something, smart person misunderstands, or doesn't understand. Vice versa.
Regardless, the one thing this trailer does seem to show is that these comedians appear to be enjoying each other and there's good chemistry. That's probably the most important thing for Ghost Busters - it's essentially a buddy comedy, and I think they may have captured that. They will obviously be switching a lot of things out because of the gender swap, but I expect them to be dropping a lot of commentary along the way as well in the form of jokes and situational comedy.
That said, I doubt I'm going to see it in the theater. It'll be out on netflix or redbox soon enough for me.
That said, a trailer is always aimed at an audience, and this one was aimed at those who loved the original and are worried about whether the film will capture the campy feel of the originals. It does. Perhaps to excess, but I think it shows that the film is going to be right in the same vein as the originals.
As far as the portrayal of the black character, they've got three wicked smart women, and they're subverting the hot secretary role by making the object male. You can't get everything you want, but I'm curious - if they transferred the street smarts to one of the other comedians wouldn't they just be considered white trash, culturally? It would be hard to pull off well. There are many examples of black characters in movies being valued and respected for their street smarts, while similar white characters are often negatively portrayed.
Plus there's a lot to be said for putting a character in a trope, then using it to provide commentary, or breaking the trope. Perhaps they won't do that.
Regardless, I wonder if a "perfect socially just" movie is possible that is also a blockbuster. Blockbusters depend on a strong cultural foundation that allows them to create a story in 90 minutes without having to give each character 30 minutes of backstory. This is done by tropes, roles, etc, and they needn't necessarily be negative. Street smarts are valued in our society, so this doesn't have to be a negative portrayal.
I'm certain they'll be playing on the "smart person has something obvious fly over her head" trope as well, which will play positively towards the street smart person, and will reinforce the idea that there are different kinds of intellect and none are necessarily better or worse than the other. Street smart person explains something, smart person misunderstands, or doesn't understand. Vice versa.
Regardless, the one thing this trailer does seem to show is that these comedians appear to be enjoying each other and there's good chemistry. That's probably the most important thing for Ghost Busters - it's essentially a buddy comedy, and I think they may have captured that. They will obviously be switching a lot of things out because of the gender swap, but I expect them to be dropping a lot of commentary along the way as well in the form of jokes and situational comedy.
That said, I doubt I'm going to see it in the theater. It'll be out on netflix or redbox soon enough for me.
I'm for it, utterly...confused with the rest of you as to whether its a remake or sequel, but I'm for it.
Looking like a "borrow from the library once it's on DVD" choice at the moment for me.
@Steinman - the reason it's kind of questionable that once again the non-science, "street smart" member of the team is also the only person of color on the team is because, well, in a mixed race cast the person of color is very frequently the least formally educated character, stemming from when blacks didn't have widespread access to higher education. In short, it's the perpetuation of a racist trope. In the early 1980's, having a thirty-something working class African-American to contrast three weird white scientists with little real-world experience was still a step forward. In 2016, not so much. And as for the notion of "white trash", that basically doesn't really have the same 150 years of racial baggage attached, now does it?
@Steinman - the reason it's kind of questionable that once again the non-science, "street smart" member of the team is also the only person of color on the team is because, well, in a mixed race cast the person of color is very frequently the least formally educated character, stemming from when blacks didn't have widespread access to higher education. In short, it's the perpetuation of a racist trope. In the early 1980's, having a thirty-something working class African-American to contrast three weird white scientists with little real-world experience was still a step forward. In 2016, not so much. And as for the notion of "white trash", that basically doesn't really have the same 150 years of racial baggage attached, now does it?
It's not even that Winston was "uneducated"... he was ex-Air Force, where he went to the AF Command ECM training school, where he learned a fair bit about electronics, energy wave interaction, as well as weapons handling. It's just none of that mattered because the other three had spent their entire adulthood on a college campus and didn't value his expertise, so he was overlooked by these ivory tower guys. There's a fair bit of implicit racism (innocently from Ray and Egon, a bit less so by Peter) in the original script that didn't make it into the final cut and that's good, but even Ramis and Akryod felt they had to address the issue at least a little, which is why Winston has earned his doctorate by 1991 (when the 2009 game takes place, which they both helped write) and has been portrayed as one of -4- scientists on the team in all material since.... which is what makes this ALL the more bewildering.
Sony knows this isn't cool but I'm pretty sure they don't want to rock the boat too hard for the old school fans. I just don't think they understand that some of this stuff should have stayed back in the 80's where it belongs.
I'm open to it. Some stuff in the trailer I liked, some stuff I was lukewarm to, but I'm not sure if that was the movie or because I hate some trailer traits these days (example, everything going quiet and the fading BOOoooom noise like the Tyrannosaur from Jurassic Park stepped on an amplifier).
Another trailer in the future will help me decide on seeing it in theaters or not. Definitely liking the look, and a couple of the bits made me smile.
Another trailer in the future will help me decide on seeing it in theaters or not. Definitely liking the look, and a couple of the bits made me smile.
Dave
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Somebody recut it to actually be good. But now that I know it's shit it doesn't make a different to me.
My whole thing is that the humor in the first one was very understated and mostly pretty subtle - except for a few big points where it got more slapstick. But since the whole thing wasn't over the top, the story is what was the focal point. It was a story about busting ghosts with comedy. This one is a comedy that just happens to have some ghost busting in it and the story be damned.
My whole thing is that the humor in the first one was very understated and mostly pretty subtle - except for a few big points where it got more slapstick. But since the whole thing wasn't over the top, the story is what was the focal point. It was a story about busting ghosts with comedy. This one is a comedy that just happens to have some ghost busting in it and the story be damned.
That is a MUCH better cut. Really.
I'm not sure we can conclude that from the trailer. I imagine one could recut the original to look like a comedy that happens to have ghosts and no real story.
As much as we lambast hollywood for lack of creative chops, the reality is that there are very few movies that are truly terrible.
Of course, one can certainly argue that we have such a wealth of great movies that we need never waste time watching mediocre movies, but I'd be truly surprised if this one didn't have a good story and a good script.
Bullshit. Absolutely bullshit. I can name five truly terrible movies from 2015 alone: Pixels, Jupiter Ascending, Fant4stic, Pan, and Entourage.
I enjoyed watching a few of those. They weren't great movies by any means, but I'm not going to try to take apart the phrase "truly terrible" and discuss semantics and personal taste.
GasBandit
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But, you have seen MST3k, right?
Even then, they've riffed Ed Wood movies that, while terrible, are full of their own special sort of charm.
I'm not really arguing against your point... there ARE objectively bad movies, just pointing out that some "bad" movies can be charming in their own way.