Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats

GasBandit

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The biggest difference between a Cruz sex scandal and a Clinton one is the fact that Clinton was not a "JESUS SAVES ALL YOU SINNERS!" candidate. Cruz is so smugly religious and holier than thou it's hilarious to see his hypocrisy written large in the media. Clinton was a known horn-dog so it wasn't a surprise.
I think the biggest difference is that Cruz's dalliances so far seem to be consensual.

HEYOOO
 
A) are people really calling it "the long war"? Do they not realize this is not strictly speaking a war and similar "wars" like those on poverty, drugs etc or the Cold War all lasted much longer? Heck, the Vietnam War lasted longer (though we're closing in on that one).
B) grouping all right wing populists together like that but leaving out the, frankly, similarly scary left wing pooulists coming to power in other regions shows a specific agenda - people are flocking to anti-establishment candidates more often than not, especially in the West. In that sense Trump is closer to Griglio than to Erdogan.
C) we're practically living in a dystopian future with megacorps running the show, and it's only in the US there's still a chance to even start a counter movement. Sadly, I don't see it happening. Only when the CEO of, say, unilever, is more powerful than the president of the USA will politicians realize they've lost their relevance, and that will be too late.
 
As long as governments have a monopoly on sanctioned violence, there is always the threat of nationalization to keep businesses in check... and frankly, any business that doesn't operate in the US doesn't have the kind of power necessary to control ANYTHING. You can't go to China or Russia because they are even more eager to nationalize (some big Chinese companies are de-facto nationalized already) and working out of Europe is to be chained to failing states like Greece, Spain, and potentially Turkey or Ukraine in the future. So that leaves building an empire in...

-Central America (drug warfare)
-South America (hostile socialist states and drug warfare)
-Africa (constant warfare and lack of infrastructure outside of city centers)
-India (dangerous neighbors)
-Japan (xenophobic business culture)
- Middle East (Religious Extremism)

... and so on. And the banks aren't going to back the corporations if it means they don't have a safe place to operate, which is what would happen if they threw in with them. The only way this Status Quo changes is if someone lets corporations own standing armies (ala Shadowrun). As long as they are prohibited from acting in this fashion, business is only as dangerous as it is profitable for a country to allow.
 
So about those "traumatized by Trump" students at Emory...

http://www.snopes.com/emory-students-trump-graffiti/

WHAT'S TRUE: Students at Emory University gathered in protest after pro-Trump graffiti appeared overnight; administrators investigated the graffiti as it appeared outside designated areas for chalk markings.
WHAT'S FALSE: "Emergency counseling" was offered to or demanded by students; Emory students complained that their "safe spaces" had been violated; students were afraid of or traumatized by the chalk markings.
 

GasBandit

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So about those "traumatized by Trump" students at Emory...

http://www.snopes.com/emory-students-trump-graffiti/

WHAT'S TRUE: Students at Emory University gathered in protest after pro-Trump graffiti appeared overnight; administrators investigated the graffiti as it appeared outside designated areas for chalk markings.
WHAT'S FALSE: "Emergency counseling" was offered to or demanded by students; Emory students complained that their "safe spaces" had been violated; students were afraid of or traumatized by the chalk markings.
It looks like Mediate article took some creative liberties and embellished the original story from the Emory Wheel (which was the one posted in this thread), and then the Mediate article was echoed and embellished again by the Daily Mail. But it asserts the original Emory Wheel article as accurate, or at least not disputed.
 
It looks like Mediate article took some creative liberties and embellished the original story from the Emory Wheel (which was the one posted in this thread), and then the Mediate article was echoed and embellished again by the Daily Mail. But it asserts the original Emory Wheel article as accurate, or at least not disputed.
Right, which didn't mention students being traumatized, needing safe spaces, or being offered counseling.
 

GasBandit

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Right, which didn't mention students being traumatized, needing safe spaces, or being offered counseling.
Indeed. Though, it did quote that one student (that I requoted) talking about how it made her feel undeservedly "unsafe," and snopes acknowledged that.
 
Indeed. Though, it did quote that one student (that I requoted) talking about how it made her feel undeservedly "unsafe," and snopes acknowledged that.
Yeah, and to be fair, if I were a person of color, and I saw people scribbling support for someone who makes inflammatory xenophobic speeches encouraging violence against people of color, foreigners, etc, I'd be a bit disturbed, too. Especially considering that Trump supporters have already attacked minority members on a few occasions.
 
I found this old picture of Jun.

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She needs to get right the fuck out of here with her racist cultural appropriation.

Even as I type this, I hear her practicing a dance routine to Nicki Minaj. This must be stopped.
 
Those three fucking idiots are pretending to debate around the corner from where I work. I almost missed the bus home because of it and had to run up the street to catch it before it turned. Thank goodness for red lights.
 

Dave

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Hillary is refusing to debate Bernie unless he stops all the negative campaigning. Uh...wut? "Bernie's so mean to me! I should be nominee and have to go up against that nice Mr. Trump."
 
Its amazing how unbelievably weak a candidate Hillary is. I wish the democrats didn't decide she was the 2016 candidate eight years ago.
WE didn't. She did, and has called in favors and used influence in the meantime to make sure that's how it's perceived. Remember: the media and big business want her to be the one, because she is indebted to them, and will grant them favor in office. Bernie's not part of the plan, and that has them scared.
 
Hillary is refusing to debate Bernie unless he stops all the negative campaigning. Uh...wut? "Bernie's so mean to me! I should be nominee and have to go up against that nice Mr. Trump."
AKA Hilary doesn't want him showing her up.

Newsflash, Hilary--you don't need to be in the same room as him for that.
 
That seems like a really far off deadline. He'll probably be out by mid-June anyways so whats the big deal with putting him back on anyways?
 
That seems like a really far off deadline. He'll probably be out by mid-June anyways so whats the big deal with putting him back on anyways?
Principles? Because even if he can't win, he's forcing Hillary to say and do things she wouldn't simply by being around? Also, because he fucking paid the fee?
 
Yeah, I meant whats the big deal with the democrats putting him back on the ballot. Guess that was unclear. My point is they shouldn't care since Hillary is gonna be the nominee anyways.
 
People still want to vote for him and he hasn't conceded? Because he paid the fee, as Ashburner said?

How are these difficult concepts? Hilary's likelihood of candidacy doesn't mean people want her as the candidate. By that logic, no one should've kept running against Trump.

As Null said, Bernie isn't part of "the plan" and the longer he sticks around, the more this exposes that kind of bullshit.
 
He'll probably be out by mid-June
they shouldn't care since Hillary is gonna be the nominee anyways.
In previous elections things have changed drastically in, sometimes, periods shorter than two weeks. A new scandal, a suddenly changed economic issue, a foreign event, etc.

"Probably" isn't good enough, particularly when then they are only 300 delegates apart (leaving the supers aside for the moment).

You stay in the race until there is no possible way for you to come out ahead.

There are many possible paths for Bernie, and until every one of them is closed he should stay in.
 
According to CNN, the DC DNC is claiming that since the board of elections closes before they do, they have historically submitted their final paperwork the day after and it hasn't been a problem.

What apparently happened this time is that they filed their formal candidate list (which includes both campaigns at once) the day after, and since the technical rules put this after the previous day's deadline, some council d-bag formally challenged Bernie's application (and only his application) to stop it from getting approved.
 
According to CNN, the DC DNC is claiming that since the board of elections closes before they do, they have historically submitted their final paperwork the day after and it hasn't been a problem.

What apparently happened this time is that they filed their formal candidate list (which includes both campaigns at once) the day after, and since the technical rules put this after the previous day's deadline, some council d-bag formally challenged Bernie's application (and only his application) to stop it from getting approved.
That's some fucking shenanigans right there.
 
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