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Covar
dumbass.
On a more serious note, it's not his business to deny them kids. Like marriage stops that.
Covar
dumbass.
On a more serious note, it's not his business to deny them kids. Like marriage stops that.
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DarkAudit
And then he blames Obama.
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And in case it got missed in the DADT thread amidst all the other carrying on...
Fox couldn't be bothered to point a camera out the window to cover the gay march, yet they send a satellite truck to cover an empty sidewalk in NJ.
Remember all that hand-winging on Fox about "the media" not covering their publicity stunt on 9/12? See what they do when actual news breaks out.
DarkAudit
Rush also bitches that the NFL is a left wing organization, ignoring that NFL owners gave substantially more to GOP than to Democrats.[/QUOTE]
And then he blames Obama.
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And in case it got missed in the DADT thread amidst all the other carrying on...
Fox couldn't be bothered to point a camera out the window to cover the gay march, yet they send a satellite truck to cover an empty sidewalk in NJ.
Remember all that hand-winging on Fox about "the media" not covering their publicity stunt on 9/12? See what they do when actual news breaks out.
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Armadillo
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SpecialKO
It's also not like there's a shortage of recent and verifiable quotes, for that matter.
But the self-righteous victim-hood by the right-wing blogosphere is insane. Because the NFL not wanting to sell to Rush is exactly like the Holocaust.
rly:
SpecialKO
Oh, I quite agree. It's totally unfair to have something attributed to you that isn't.
It's also not like there's a shortage of recent and verifiable quotes, for that matter.
But the self-righteous victim-hood by the right-wing blogosphere is insane. Because the NFL not wanting to sell to Rush is exactly like the Holocaust.
rly:
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Armadillo
Gee, thanks. And?
I don't get what black people and gangs have to do with each other. You see, anyone who links the two are racists.[/QUOTE]
remember racist Rush is responsible for releasing the racist "Barack the Magic Negro." he totally crossed the line by quoting the LA Times and Joe Biden.[/QUOTE]
Yes, quite true. I had not fully considered that. *smokes pipe*
Armadillo
The Bloods and The Crips are gangs, Armadillo.[/QUOTE]
Gee, thanks. And?
I don't get what black people and gangs have to do with each other. You see, anyone who links the two are racists.[/QUOTE]
remember racist Rush is responsible for releasing the racist "Barack the Magic Negro." he totally crossed the line by quoting the LA Times and Joe Biden.[/QUOTE]
Yes, quite true. I had not fully considered that. *smokes pipe*
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Armadillo
From the Political Picture thread. Relevant part bolded.
I have nothing to add, I just wanted to post that picture. It makes me giggle like a schoolgirl.
Armadillo
If your trying to brow beat me into not posting by putting words in my mouth I neither said nor meant, it's working.[/QUOTE]
From the Political Picture thread. Relevant part bolded.
It sure doesn't help when you make excuses for the ones that are racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobes. If you're not part of the solution and speak against it...[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Krisken;255435][quote=Covar said:
I have nothing to add, I just wanted to post that picture. It makes me giggle like a schoolgirl.
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Armadillo
It means that I've gotten all the knowledge I am going to get out of this conversation. We can argue ad nauseum, or one of us can drop out. You're to the point where you're saying the issue is with me, that I have preconceived ideas about Mr. Limbaugh, not that I have come to my opinions based on the things he has said (and yes, some things are taken out of context. He is still saying hateful, divisive things). You don't respect that I have an opinion, or that those opinions are based on my observations. Continuing is pretty pointless.
Ask yourself this- If it was someone on the left, would you react differently? Would you be defending them? If it was Reid, Pelossi, or Obama who said these things?
I know I wouldn't.[/QUOTE]
As a matter of fact, I have defended those very people against similar attacks from the right, just not on this particular forum. I agree that you and I aren't going to get anywhere the way we're going, but I don't appreciate you saying I don't respect your opinion. I DISAGREE with your opinion, but that doesn't mean I don't RESPECT that you have one.
But here I am trying to reason with a liberal from Wisconsin. That's two strikes right there, buddy.
Armadillo
What the hell's that supposed to mean?[/QUOTE]
It means that I've gotten all the knowledge I am going to get out of this conversation. We can argue ad nauseum, or one of us can drop out. You're to the point where you're saying the issue is with me, that I have preconceived ideas about Mr. Limbaugh, not that I have come to my opinions based on the things he has said (and yes, some things are taken out of context. He is still saying hateful, divisive things). You don't respect that I have an opinion, or that those opinions are based on my observations. Continuing is pretty pointless.
Ask yourself this- If it was someone on the left, would you react differently? Would you be defending them? If it was Reid, Pelossi, or Obama who said these things?
I know I wouldn't.[/QUOTE]
As a matter of fact, I have defended those very people against similar attacks from the right, just not on this particular forum. I agree that you and I aren't going to get anywhere the way we're going, but I don't appreciate you saying I don't respect your opinion. I DISAGREE with your opinion, but that doesn't mean I don't RESPECT that you have one.
But here I am trying to reason with a liberal from Wisconsin. That's two strikes right there, buddy.
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We are trying very hard to make up for McCarthyism.But here I am trying to reason with a liberal from Wisconsin. That's two strikes right there, buddy.
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GasBandit
What is $1.42 trillion? It's more than the total national debt for the first 200 years of the Republic, more than the entire economy of India, and more than $4,700 for every man, woman and child in the United States. Oh and our 2009 federal deficit.
The Government Accountability Office says that our long-term economic outlook is unsustainable.
Your tax dollars at work ... $2.3 million in federal stimulus money to train hairdressers, masseuses and nail technicians.
A must-read. The destruction of our private healthcare system is already underway thanks to Barack Obama and the Democrats.
The director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, wanted the the FCC force stations to provide free time for advertisements calling attention to what he called "the population-resource-environment crisis."
Maureen Dowd in the New York Times: Obama does not want his fatal flaw to be that he compromises so much that his ideals get blurred out of recognition.
Another New York Times columnist who seems frustrated with Obama's willingness to compromise. I guess he's too left for the righties, and too right for the lefties?
George Will explains that Barack Obama may be re-elected solely based on the fact that he will make so many more people dependent on government.
The White House says that the government option is preferred but not required for the president to sign a healthcare bill.
Obama's government pay czar says that the CEO of Bank of America shouldn't be paid for 2009. So there you go.
The Democrats are scrounging to get seniors to support their healthcare plan. Then Barack Obama comes along and says he will give every senior citizen a $250 check. Any connection?
The Wall Street Journal explains: Almost two-thirds of all bad mortgages in our financial system were bought by government agencies or required by government regulations. But it's wall street greed, not social engineering the insolvent into homes they can't afford to pander for votes that caused the mortgage collapse. Of course. Assuredly.
Senators took taxpayer money slated for our troops and earmarked it for projects like an educational institute named after Ted Kennedy. Your tax dollars. Your government.
Remember Barack Obama's urgency to pass the $787 billion economic stimulus plan so that we could "create or save jobs"? Looks like 30,000 were saved or created thanks to the stimulus.
The US Chamber of Commerce reminds us that it is the private sector, not the government, which will create the jobs to bring us out of this economy.
Michelle Obama says that teachers are the key to a successful economy. Government schools ... teachers unions ... this is what is going to turn the tide for our economy? You have GOT to be kidding me.
Nine months into the Obama presidency, tax cheat Timothy Geithner has more than half of the 33 highest-level Treasury Department posts vacant.
Harry Reid explains how $54 billion is not a lot of money.
A former Republican congressional budget chief calls the Obama administration's claims to fiscal responsibility "hypocritical" and "laughable."
Here's a conundrum from CNN: While people want government to solve big problems like health care, they don't trust the government to do it.
Arianna Huffington wants Joe Biden to resign if Obama escalates the war in Afghanistan.
More illustration of the perils of big, invasive government - A justice of the peace in Louisiana refuses to marry an interracial couple because he is concerned for their potential children.
There's a media lynch mob running around with a noose. They're looking for Rush Limbaugh. But even the brits aren't buying it.
This from PriceWaterhouseCoopers should be all it takes to kill the Baucus healthcare bill. But it won't.
Also, last week the dollar hit a 14-month low against the euro and the price of oil futures rose above 75 dollars for the first time in a year.
SEIU, the Service Employee's International Union served as ACORN's thug brigade for years. Now they're providing appointees for Obama's government thug brigade.
Despite what Washington may tell you, the greatest risk to our economy is not Wall Street .... It is Washington's massive debt. Tony Blankley will educate you.
Is CAIR really on a mission to plant Muslim interns in the offices of congressmen who are on committees affecting US national security?
Here's an article about an insurance company in New York that was forced to cover people despite pre-existing conditions, and the company ended up canceling lines of coverage in that state rather than continuing to take the hit.
Democrats in the House now represent the richest regions of the United States.
I like this. A Democratic congressional candidate in Florida returned a campaign check from John Murtha's PAC.
I love it. A birther was fined $20,000 by a federal judge here in Georgia for using the courts "as a platform for a political agenda disconnected from any legitimate legal cause of action."
The Democrats are showing their cards. Their plot to pass climate change legislation includes linking global warming to national security. And somebody out there is buying this BS and eating it right up.
The FCC Commissioner says that Diversity Czar Mark Lloyd's ideas on regulating free speech are "troubling."
Does Barack Obama have another embarrassing appointee on his hands?
Hey wait .. isn't it still hurricane season? The 2009 Atlantic hurricane season has been the quietest in more than a decade. But isn't all that global warming causing super extra violent hurricane seasons?
GasBandit
Excuse me, you're in my spot.
What is $1.42 trillion? It's more than the total national debt for the first 200 years of the Republic, more than the entire economy of India, and more than $4,700 for every man, woman and child in the United States. Oh and our 2009 federal deficit.
The Government Accountability Office says that our long-term economic outlook is unsustainable.
Your tax dollars at work ... $2.3 million in federal stimulus money to train hairdressers, masseuses and nail technicians.
A must-read. The destruction of our private healthcare system is already underway thanks to Barack Obama and the Democrats.
The director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, wanted the the FCC force stations to provide free time for advertisements calling attention to what he called "the population-resource-environment crisis."
Maureen Dowd in the New York Times: Obama does not want his fatal flaw to be that he compromises so much that his ideals get blurred out of recognition.
Another New York Times columnist who seems frustrated with Obama's willingness to compromise. I guess he's too left for the righties, and too right for the lefties?
George Will explains that Barack Obama may be re-elected solely based on the fact that he will make so many more people dependent on government.
The White House says that the government option is preferred but not required for the president to sign a healthcare bill.
Obama's government pay czar says that the CEO of Bank of America shouldn't be paid for 2009. So there you go.
The Democrats are scrounging to get seniors to support their healthcare plan. Then Barack Obama comes along and says he will give every senior citizen a $250 check. Any connection?
The Wall Street Journal explains: Almost two-thirds of all bad mortgages in our financial system were bought by government agencies or required by government regulations. But it's wall street greed, not social engineering the insolvent into homes they can't afford to pander for votes that caused the mortgage collapse. Of course. Assuredly.
Senators took taxpayer money slated for our troops and earmarked it for projects like an educational institute named after Ted Kennedy. Your tax dollars. Your government.
Remember Barack Obama's urgency to pass the $787 billion economic stimulus plan so that we could "create or save jobs"? Looks like 30,000 were saved or created thanks to the stimulus.
The US Chamber of Commerce reminds us that it is the private sector, not the government, which will create the jobs to bring us out of this economy.
Michelle Obama says that teachers are the key to a successful economy. Government schools ... teachers unions ... this is what is going to turn the tide for our economy? You have GOT to be kidding me.
Nine months into the Obama presidency, tax cheat Timothy Geithner has more than half of the 33 highest-level Treasury Department posts vacant.
Harry Reid explains how $54 billion is not a lot of money.
A former Republican congressional budget chief calls the Obama administration's claims to fiscal responsibility "hypocritical" and "laughable."
Here's a conundrum from CNN: While people want government to solve big problems like health care, they don't trust the government to do it.
Arianna Huffington wants Joe Biden to resign if Obama escalates the war in Afghanistan.
More illustration of the perils of big, invasive government - A justice of the peace in Louisiana refuses to marry an interracial couple because he is concerned for their potential children.
There's a media lynch mob running around with a noose. They're looking for Rush Limbaugh. But even the brits aren't buying it.
This from PriceWaterhouseCoopers should be all it takes to kill the Baucus healthcare bill. But it won't.
Also, last week the dollar hit a 14-month low against the euro and the price of oil futures rose above 75 dollars for the first time in a year.
SEIU, the Service Employee's International Union served as ACORN's thug brigade for years. Now they're providing appointees for Obama's government thug brigade.
Despite what Washington may tell you, the greatest risk to our economy is not Wall Street .... It is Washington's massive debt. Tony Blankley will educate you.
Is CAIR really on a mission to plant Muslim interns in the offices of congressmen who are on committees affecting US national security?
Here's an article about an insurance company in New York that was forced to cover people despite pre-existing conditions, and the company ended up canceling lines of coverage in that state rather than continuing to take the hit.
Democrats in the House now represent the richest regions of the United States.
I like this. A Democratic congressional candidate in Florida returned a campaign check from John Murtha's PAC.
I love it. A birther was fined $20,000 by a federal judge here in Georgia for using the courts "as a platform for a political agenda disconnected from any legitimate legal cause of action."
The Democrats are showing their cards. Their plot to pass climate change legislation includes linking global warming to national security. And somebody out there is buying this BS and eating it right up.
The FCC Commissioner says that Diversity Czar Mark Lloyd's ideas on regulating free speech are "troubling."
Does Barack Obama have another embarrassing appointee on his hands?
Hey wait .. isn't it still hurricane season? The 2009 Atlantic hurricane season has been the quietest in more than a decade. But isn't all that global warming causing super extra violent hurricane seasons?
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
Dang it! I thought I had changed the locks. 
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Orly Taitz
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DarkAudit
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Unprecedented number of threats against Obama strains Secret Service budget and staffing. And you think folks like Beck, Bachmann, and Savage don't have an impact?
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Beck himself has repeated ad nauseum that violence is not the answer.
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White House Urges Other Networks to Disregard Fox News
Besides, ISN'T THERE A WAR ON?
Armadillo
And you think Beck, Bachmann, and Savage are directly responsible for lunatics making threats?Unprecedented number of threats against Obama strains Secret Service budget and staffing. And you think folks like Beck, Bachmann, and Savage don't have an impact?
Beck himself has repeated ad nauseum that violence is not the answer.
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White House Urges Other Networks to Disregard Fox News
Appalling. Simply appalling. They're going to stray into some serious First Amendment issues if they're not careful. When even Donna Brazille is saying the administration's not doing the right thing, you know they're screwing up.
Besides, ISN'T THERE A WAR ON?
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SpecialKO
Beck himself has repeated ad nauseum that violence is not the answer.[/QUOTE]
There is a wide, wide gap between "impact" and "directly responsible".
DA's point (correct me, if I'm wrong, DA) is that when folks with wide public exposure like Beck, Bachmann, Savage, etc., make crazy inflammatory statements like they have, they're contributing considerably to the atmosphere that brings the crazies out.
SpecialKO
And you think Beck, Bachmann, and Savage are directly responsible for lunatics making threats?Unprecedented number of threats against Obama strains Secret Service budget and staffing. And you think folks like Beck, Bachmann, and Savage don't have an impact?
Beck himself has repeated ad nauseum that violence is not the answer.[/QUOTE]
There is a wide, wide gap between "impact" and "directly responsible".
DA's point (correct me, if I'm wrong, DA) is that when folks with wide public exposure like Beck, Bachmann, Savage, etc., make crazy inflammatory statements like they have, they're contributing considerably to the atmosphere that brings the crazies out.
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SpecialKO
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Armadillo
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SpecialKO
SpecialKO
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GasBandit
Frankly the whole issue is a laughable farce to me, but let's not pretend they're not doing what they're doing.
http://www.youtube.com/v/u7VtfGk7Nc8
"... and YOU ought not to treat them that way either."
Frankly, when the AP and pretty much every other network has been rabidly eager to fellate Obama at every possible opportunity since his candidatorial debut, I think Fox can be given a little leeway for leaning a commensurate amount the other direction.
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Federal drug agents will no longer pursue pot-smoking patients or suppliers in states that allow medical marijuana. Well, that's one small step in the direction of sanity. Back in 2001 it decided to decriminialize all drugs, including cocaine and heroin. There was no spike in usage. There was no public health crisis. In fact, the rate of drug usage is less in Portugal than it is compared to other European nations. The CATO Institute can give you all the hairy details.
The Community Reinvestment Act is back ... but disguised as a different animal. This report should scare the tar out of you. From the Hill
The Senate Finance Committee has filed its healthcare bill. It weighs in at 1,502 pages.
We are going to spend $1 trillion to insure 5% of the population. Something isn't adding up.
Apparently Senate Republicans have implemented a comprehensive political strategy to delay, define and derail any government takeover of healthcare.
Senator Jim Inhofe reminds us: No matter how many times Congress debates it, and no matter how environmentalists couch it, cap-and-trade will do virtually nothing to stop global warming.
The Prime Minister of the UK says that we have 50 days to save the world from global warming!!!
Part of Ben Bernake's plan to "substantially reduce" budget deficits: ask countries like China to get their consumers to spend more.
The Obama administration has come up with a brilliant way to implement another stimulus package: just don't call it a stimulus package and people will never even know!
Barack Obama's stimulus plan subsidizes .... golf carts?
This article from Forbes says that the stimulus bill may be worse than the health care bill when it comes to its effect on our federal deficit.
Healthcare insurance providers in Colorado say that the current healthcare legislation would lead to a "system collapse."
And suddenly .... Sen. Roland Burris becomes relevant. Here's how.
The White House, the media and the art of controlled public messaging.
Iran vows to seek revenge, claiming that a bombing attack of the Revolutionary Guard was carried out by terrorists trained by America and Britain.
I had "energy star compliant" monitors for years and years... but... this sounds about right for government .... the Energy Department has concluded in an internal audit that it does not properly track whether manufacturers that give their appliances an Energy Star label have met the required specifications for energy efficiency. Maybe my old CRTs were killing the environment! Oh noes!
GasBandit
Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod BOTH said, on the air, "Fox isn't really a news channel, and you guys [other news networks] shouldn't bother with stories they cover."
Frankly the whole issue is a laughable farce to me, but let's not pretend they're not doing what they're doing.
http://www.youtube.com/v/u7VtfGk7Nc8
"... and YOU ought not to treat them that way either."
Frankly, when the AP and pretty much every other network has been rabidly eager to fellate Obama at every possible opportunity since his candidatorial debut, I think Fox can be given a little leeway for leaning a commensurate amount the other direction.
I'm loving how NOW, "crazy, inflammatory statements" are suddenly a cause for the imperial hammer coming down on people, when for the 8 years previous crazy, inflammatory statements, songs, movies and articles ranging from libel and slander to outright advocacy of assassination were protected free speech and "dissent [was] the new patriotism."Tekeo said:
---------- Post added at 11:04 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:53 AM ----------
Federal drug agents will no longer pursue pot-smoking patients or suppliers in states that allow medical marijuana. Well, that's one small step in the direction of sanity. Back in 2001 it decided to decriminialize all drugs, including cocaine and heroin. There was no spike in usage. There was no public health crisis. In fact, the rate of drug usage is less in Portugal than it is compared to other European nations. The CATO Institute can give you all the hairy details.
The Community Reinvestment Act is back ... but disguised as a different animal. This report should scare the tar out of you. From the Hill
The Senate Finance Committee has filed its healthcare bill. It weighs in at 1,502 pages.
We are going to spend $1 trillion to insure 5% of the population. Something isn't adding up.
Apparently Senate Republicans have implemented a comprehensive political strategy to delay, define and derail any government takeover of healthcare.
Senator Jim Inhofe reminds us: No matter how many times Congress debates it, and no matter how environmentalists couch it, cap-and-trade will do virtually nothing to stop global warming.
The Prime Minister of the UK says that we have 50 days to save the world from global warming!!!
Part of Ben Bernake's plan to "substantially reduce" budget deficits: ask countries like China to get their consumers to spend more.
The Obama administration has come up with a brilliant way to implement another stimulus package: just don't call it a stimulus package and people will never even know!
Barack Obama's stimulus plan subsidizes .... golf carts?
This article from Forbes says that the stimulus bill may be worse than the health care bill when it comes to its effect on our federal deficit.
Healthcare insurance providers in Colorado say that the current healthcare legislation would lead to a "system collapse."
And suddenly .... Sen. Roland Burris becomes relevant. Here's how.
The White House, the media and the art of controlled public messaging.
Iran vows to seek revenge, claiming that a bombing attack of the Revolutionary Guard was carried out by terrorists trained by America and Britain.
I had "energy star compliant" monitors for years and years... but... this sounds about right for government .... the Energy Department has concluded in an internal audit that it does not properly track whether manufacturers that give their appliances an Energy Star label have met the required specifications for energy efficiency. Maybe my old CRTs were killing the environment! Oh noes!
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The Lovely Boehner
The Lovely Boehner
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SpecialKO
SpecialKO
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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SpecialKO
I'm not her biggest fan by any means, but this is just bullshit. They practically outright say that they're doing it because she pissed them off.
SpecialKO
I'm not her biggest fan by any means, but this is just bullshit. They practically outright say that they're doing it because she pissed them off.
This on the other hand, just freaks me out a bit, and it has more to do with the book-burning thing than anything else, though the "satanic" declarations are a bit wince-inducing as well.
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Steven Soderburgin
Steven Soderburgin
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Iaculus
Iaculus
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DarkAudit
Think someone just got hoaxed.[/QUOTE]
Hoax or not, it's still funny.
DarkAudit
Conservapedia? Seventy-five per cent of that site these days is stealth parody.
Think someone just got hoaxed.[/QUOTE]
Hoax or not, it's still funny.
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GasBandit
Frankly the whole issue is a laughable farce to me, but let's not pretend they're not doing what they're doing.[/quote]
Asking other news organizations to not treat Fox news reports as news, but as editorial perspectives, while still agreeing to appear on Fox news interviews and events?[/quote]
"A little revolution every so often is a good thing."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- - Thomas Jefferson
There was a huge stink over this movie's depiction of the assassination of dubya - which opened at the toronto film festival the DAY BEFORE the assassination occurred in the movie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President
Can we imagine what would have happened if someone had made a game where the objective was to assassinate Obama?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technolog...e-bush-assassination-videogame-virtual-jihadi
Get a load of this - http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=10846
and these - http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/04/assassination-fascination/
As for congressman, of course no democrat congressman would advocate armed uprising... unlike conservatives, the untouchable oppressiveness of government is their goal. They love government too much to advocate rebellion.
But it is the government that lives in fear of the credible threat of revolution that is most beneficial to liberty.
GasBandit
Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod BOTH said, on the air, "Fox isn't really a news channel, and you guys [other news networks] shouldn't bother with stories they cover."
Frankly the whole issue is a laughable farce to me, but let's not pretend they're not doing what they're doing.[/quote]
Asking other news organizations to not treat Fox news reports as news, but as editorial perspectives, while still agreeing to appear on Fox news interviews and events?[/quote]
Well, I guess we know who took an 8 year nap. Not to mention doesn't know the opinons of the founding fathers of the country -
"A little revolution every so often is a good thing."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- - Thomas Jefferson
There was a huge stink over this movie's depiction of the assassination of dubya - which opened at the toronto film festival the DAY BEFORE the assassination occurred in the movie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President
Can we imagine what would have happened if someone had made a game where the objective was to assassinate Obama?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technolog...e-bush-assassination-videogame-virtual-jihadi
Get a load of this - http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=10846
and these - http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/04/assassination-fascination/
As for congressman, of course no democrat congressman would advocate armed uprising... unlike conservatives, the untouchable oppressiveness of government is their goal. They love government too much to advocate rebellion.
But it is the government that lives in fear of the credible threat of revolution that is most beneficial to liberty.
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SpecialKO
SpecialKO
You're seriously equating a Fox news pundit with the heads of state of potentially hostile nations?
And apparently, Thomas Jefferson had nothing to do with the revolutionary atmosphere of his time period.
Do you even know what the argument is?
We've been talking about the contributing effects of statements like these from public figures on the public at large.
The links you have demonstrate that when someone makes these statements, they are roundly condemned for that exact reason!
So how exactly does this absolve Beck, Bachmann, etc?
And apparently, Thomas Jefferson had nothing to do with the revolutionary atmosphere of his time period.
Do you even know what the argument is?
We've been talking about the contributing effects of statements like these from public figures on the public at large.
The links you have demonstrate that when someone makes these statements, they are roundly condemned for that exact reason!
So how exactly does this absolve Beck, Bachmann, etc?
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DarkAudit
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Krisken
Krisken
It doesn't. It confuses and misdirects everyone reading it. Welcome back Gas Bandit.You're seriously equating a Fox news pundit with the heads of state of potentially hostile nations?
And apparently, Thomas Jefferson had nothing to do with the revolutionary atmosphere of his time period.
Do you even know what the argument is?
We've been talking about the contributing effects of statements like these from public figures on the public at large.
The links you have demonstrate that when someone makes these statements, they are roundly condemned for that exact reason!
So how exactly does this absolve Beck, Bachmann, etc?
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SpecialKO
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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sixpackshaker
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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DarkAudit
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Armadillo
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Espy
Except that she...uh...said it.[/QUOTE]
Yes but apparently if Fox News says anything about it it is automatically invalid. I heard them say Obama was president the other day so I expect DA to call bullshit any minute now...
Espy
Discussed to death. It's a Fox Noise/Glenn Beck smear. The end. NEXT![/QUOTE]
Except that she...uh...said it.[/QUOTE]
Yes but apparently if Fox News says anything about it it is automatically invalid. I heard them say Obama was president the other day so I expect DA to call bullshit any minute now...
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Except that she...uh...said it.[/quote]
Yes but apparently if Fox News says anything about it it is automatically invalid. I heard them say Obama was president the other day so I expect DA to call bullshit any minute now...[/QUOTE]
I was going to respond, but then I thought "This is so absurd, Espy doesn't believe it."
Krisken
Discussed to death. It's a Fox Noise/Glenn Beck smear. The end. NEXT![/quote]
Except that she...uh...said it.[/quote]
Yes but apparently if Fox News says anything about it it is automatically invalid. I heard them say Obama was president the other day so I expect DA to call bullshit any minute now...
[/QUOTE]I was going to respond, but then I thought "This is so absurd, Espy doesn't believe it."
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AshburnerX
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Terrik
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Terrik
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DarkAudit
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Armadillo
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Terrik
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Iaculus
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AshburnerX
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AshburnerX
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GasBandit
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Krisken
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Bowielee
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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The Lovely Boehner
The Lovely Boehner
Finally, some good news!
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Krisken
Krisken
Well, Trojan's are the most trusted brand in America.Finally, some good news!
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AshburnerX
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I assume he will be given a red headband and a large machine gun then air dropped into the mountains?[/QUOTE]
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I put in "John Kerry Rambo" into Google Image Search and that was the first to pop up. I figured it was close enough
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It is
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DarkAudit
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GasBandit
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Krisken
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GasBandit
FTAs:
Repeated:
"Planted" - The little girl called upon was the daughter of an Obamabot (mom sitting right next to her in the picture in the article)... from Mom's facebook -
But yeah, that must just be a coincidence, and we would be way off base assuming there was collusion going on there.
(I also love that Mom is a "fan" of Caroline Kennedy. Rofl-copter.)
Astroturfed supporters - easy enough... he BUSSED IN HIS OWN SUPPORTERS to pad the audience. What else is there to say?
GasBandit
Wow, you are self-deluded. Just put me back on ignore and go on your merry way if you're going to look at an orange and insist it's green.
FTAs:
Repeated:
Planted. And it was Iran, not Iraq. But I guess you can't spend a whole lot of time reading things too close that make you hide under the bed.
"Planted" - The little girl called upon was the daughter of an Obamabot (mom sitting right next to her in the picture in the article)... from Mom's facebook -
But yeah, that must just be a coincidence, and we would be way off base assuming there was collusion going on there.
(I also love that Mom is a "fan" of Caroline Kennedy. Rofl-copter.)
Astroturfed supporters - easy enough... he BUSSED IN HIS OWN SUPPORTERS to pad the audience. What else is there to say?
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FTAs:
Repeated:
"Planted" - The little girl called upon was the daughter of an Obamabot (mom sitting right next to her in the picture in the article)... from Mom's facebook -
But yeah, that must just be a coincidence, and we would be way off base assuming there was collusion going on there.
(I also love that Mom is a "fan" of Caroline Kennedy. Rofl-copter.)
Astroturfed supporters - easy enough... he BUSSED IN HIS OWN SUPPORTERS to pad the audience. What else is there to say?[/quote]
Done and done. I was hoping you had something substantial, but of course it is the same old tin-hat crap I hated about Daily Kos, only with a crazy Libertarian slant.
I can't believe you don't have anything new after all this time.
"Obamabot". Egads. You truly are a sad little man.
Krisken
Wow, you are self-deluded. Just put me back on ignore and go on your merry way if you're going to look at an orange and insist it's green.
FTAs:
Repeated:
Planted. And it was Iran, not Iraq. But I guess you can't spend a whole lot of time reading things too close that make you hide under the bed.
"Planted" - The little girl called upon was the daughter of an Obamabot (mom sitting right next to her in the picture in the article)... from Mom's facebook -
But yeah, that must just be a coincidence, and we would be way off base assuming there was collusion going on there.
(I also love that Mom is a "fan" of Caroline Kennedy. Rofl-copter.)
Astroturfed supporters - easy enough... he BUSSED IN HIS OWN SUPPORTERS to pad the audience. What else is there to say?[/quote]
Done and done. I was hoping you had something substantial, but of course it is the same old tin-hat crap I hated about Daily Kos, only with a crazy Libertarian slant.
I can't believe you don't have anything new after all this time.
"Obamabot". Egads. You truly are a sad little man.
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Krisken
Krisken
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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blotsfan
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SpecialKO
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Armadillo
I'll say yes and kind of. "Kind of" because while he's right that Bush's people were wrong to go after NBC, and they're hypocrites, he pretty much flat out excuses Obama's crew going after Fox. I would argue that they're both wrong.[/QUOTE]
I can understand that. That's part of our opinions on the media being different, though. This is a happy 'agree to disagree' moment for us, I think.[/QUOTE]
Oh, bite me.
I mean...
Oh, bite me.
Armadillo
Yes and yes.[/quote]
I'll say yes and kind of. "Kind of" because while he's right that Bush's people were wrong to go after NBC, and they're hypocrites, he pretty much flat out excuses Obama's crew going after Fox. I would argue that they're both wrong.[/QUOTE]
I can understand that. That's part of our opinions on the media being different, though. This is a happy 'agree to disagree' moment for us, I think.[/QUOTE]
Oh, bite me.
I mean...
Oh, bite me.
#173
SpecialKO
SpecialKO
#174
DarkAudit
DarkAudit
Why do I dismiss anything Beck says as a steaming pile of dog mess? It's because of stuff like this: he's claiming Obama wants to spy on Americans via OnStar.
Glenn Beck is fucking moron. A vile, despicable, worthless piece of animal shit. A party-line-parroting hate-spewing chunk of stale vomit.
This is the guy who asked an incoming Congressman "prove to me you're not in league with our enemies" because he happened to be a Muslim. The guy who claimed the reverse of the Mercury Dime, a coin out of circulation since 1945 was proof enough to him that this is a fascist country. OTOH, the "communist" and "socialist" "symbolism" he claims that is all over Rockefeller Center is proof we're a socialist country (dude spent the better parts of at least two shows on this one, boys and girls). The guy who called Obama racist, and that he hated "white culture".
This is just him, not what some nutjob did as suggested by Beck. There's plenty of that out there.
Oh, you didn't notice that Anita Dunn was the one who first called out Fox News a week or two ago. Only then did the dogs come out. Same thing happened to the guy leading the advertiser boycott against Beck's show. Nothing said about either of them until they crossed Fox Noise.
Glenn Beck is uncouth, unethical, and un-American. Fuck Glenn Beck.
(cue the Beck-fellating posts in 3... 2... 1...)
Glenn Beck is fucking moron. A vile, despicable, worthless piece of animal shit. A party-line-parroting hate-spewing chunk of stale vomit.
This is the guy who asked an incoming Congressman "prove to me you're not in league with our enemies" because he happened to be a Muslim. The guy who claimed the reverse of the Mercury Dime, a coin out of circulation since 1945 was proof enough to him that this is a fascist country. OTOH, the "communist" and "socialist" "symbolism" he claims that is all over Rockefeller Center is proof we're a socialist country (dude spent the better parts of at least two shows on this one, boys and girls). The guy who called Obama racist, and that he hated "white culture".
This is just him, not what some nutjob did as suggested by Beck. There's plenty of that out there.
Oh, you didn't notice that Anita Dunn was the one who first called out Fox News a week or two ago. Only then did the dogs come out. Same thing happened to the guy leading the advertiser boycott against Beck's show. Nothing said about either of them until they crossed Fox Noise.
Glenn Beck is uncouth, unethical, and un-American. Fuck Glenn Beck.
(cue the Beck-fellating posts in 3... 2... 1...)
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Espy
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
*sulk*
You guys are no fun anymore.
You guys are no fun anymore.
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Chazwozel
Chazwozel
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Krisken
Krisken
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Chazwozel
Chazwozel
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Covar
Covar
And crazy sheep fuckers like you are why we can't have gay marriage in this country.
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
This one nearly got past me until this week: GOP will eat itself - schism on the right puts Democrat candidate in NY 23rd Congressional district into the lead. A major split amongst right and far-right factions has allowed a Democrat to do and end-around them both. In a district that hasn't elected one since before the Civil War.
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
That's interesting, but here's the real question... if the Republican party DOES implode and become irrelevant, what party is going to take it's place? Aside from the Libertarians (who, quite frankly, don't have a chance in hell) are there any right leaning parties that could step up and fill the void?This one nearly got past me until this week: GOP will eat itself - schism on the right puts Democrat candidate in NY 23rd Congressional district into the lead. A major split amongst right and far-right factions has allowed a Democrat to do and end-around them both. In a district that hasn't elected one since before the Civil War.
#188
GasBandit
Now, on to the present, and the future!
As many of you know, I'm a fan of Socks and Barney... they have another good one today -
So after weeks of focusing and floundering on healthcare and global warming; and ignoring the needs of our troops in Afghanistan, suddenly we get this announcement from Washington: we are going to cut top executive pay at the biggest corporations that took bailout money. Of course many Americans are now rejoicing! "Great! These evil rich people are getting exactly what they deserve!" Then, the very next day we see the White House pulling away from bearing any responsibility on the issue. Officials in the administration say that they didn't have much to do with the decision at all. It all came from one man: Kenneth Feinberg. The Pay Czar. This Obama appointee (without any sort of Congressional approval), single-handedly decided to cut CEO pay for these executives. Is Obama going to take responsibility for ANYTHING that comes out of his White House? So now the question is ... how far will this go? Just the other day, Obama also announced plans to increase lending to small businesses and give them access to rescue funds. Will Kenneth Feinberg eventually have the "authority" to slash salaries of top executives at these small businesses that take bailout funds? Let's take a closer look at this Kenneth Feinberg fellow ... how did he come to have so much "authority" that he is able to cut salaries at private corporations in this country? If you'll remember months ago, Congress decided that it wanted to crack down on millions of dollars in AIG bonuses. There was only one slight, teeny-tiny little problem - Congress does not have the Constitutional authority to do so. Then magically, Obama creates a new czar in his administration. This man would be a "special master on compensation." Ta-da! Now if the government wants to punish certain companies, all it has to do is call on its compensation czar.
Pretty clever, huh?
The day after our special master on compensation decided to slash executive pay, the Obama administration decided that it would be a good idea to clamp down on banks while we are at it. The Federal Reserve decided to curb executive pay packages "that encouraged bankers and other executives to take the kinds of reckless risks that contributed to the housing bubble." The housing bubble came from Washington, not from bank board rooms. It was Washington that told these banks that their future growth would be halted or curtailed if they didn't make sure that pretty much anyone with a pulse that wanted a home loan could get one. It was Washington that set up these extraordinary systems whereby banks could make the loans and then pass of the liability to the American taxpayers. It was WASHINGTON, not the banks, that took the reckless risks.
Goooin' up! Again. I guess the Democrats got jealous that Dubya made everybody think that the Republicans were the reckless spenders, so they've made damn sure that label stays where it belongs!
George Will explains how Obama has established the Social Security COLA as "the capstone to the architecture of the entitlement culture that is modern liberalism's crowning achievement."
The White House says that the government's economic stimulus spending has already had its biggest impact and probably won't contribute to significant growth next year. So... that was it? Aren't we glad we poured all that money down a rathole, for practically no effect whatsoever?
Where does the Constitution authorize Congress to require all Americans to carry health insurance? The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee can't answer that.
How out of touch are Republicans? This out of touch.
Healthcare is not about your health, it is about control.
The latest Gallup polls show an alarming drop in President Obama's approval ratings ... the worst drop for any president in his first year in office.
Looks like more Americans are figuring out the truth about this global warming scam.
Our Social Security system is going to come crashing down soon. Will that lead to the end of entitlement culture?
Could we be looking at a Fairness Doctrine for the Internet?
Darkaudit's favorite incompetent central Florida Representative is in trouble for bringing a poster on the House floor that could be construed as promoting his re-election campaign.
Victor Davis Hanson says that the real key to being a "popular" America seems to be to empathize with non-Western totalitarians. Hence Obama's popularity.
Our Health and Human Services Secretary says she will donate swine flu vaccinations to foreign countries before meeting US demand.
Want the latest on the ACORN video sting?
The government in Norway has decided to publish all tax returns online.
Fathers, don't let your daughters grow up to be westerners.
GasBandit
Holy crap that's an old post. No, that's not what I was saying. I wasn't saying the act of legalizing gay marriage itself would, I said the argument they were using to do so could have been used for pretty much anything. It should just be enough to say that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 applies here, have a whole bunch of big gay weddings and be done with it.
Now, on to the present, and the future!
As many of you know, I'm a fan of Socks and Barney... they have another good one today -
So after weeks of focusing and floundering on healthcare and global warming; and ignoring the needs of our troops in Afghanistan, suddenly we get this announcement from Washington: we are going to cut top executive pay at the biggest corporations that took bailout money. Of course many Americans are now rejoicing! "Great! These evil rich people are getting exactly what they deserve!" Then, the very next day we see the White House pulling away from bearing any responsibility on the issue. Officials in the administration say that they didn't have much to do with the decision at all. It all came from one man: Kenneth Feinberg. The Pay Czar. This Obama appointee (without any sort of Congressional approval), single-handedly decided to cut CEO pay for these executives. Is Obama going to take responsibility for ANYTHING that comes out of his White House? So now the question is ... how far will this go? Just the other day, Obama also announced plans to increase lending to small businesses and give them access to rescue funds. Will Kenneth Feinberg eventually have the "authority" to slash salaries of top executives at these small businesses that take bailout funds? Let's take a closer look at this Kenneth Feinberg fellow ... how did he come to have so much "authority" that he is able to cut salaries at private corporations in this country? If you'll remember months ago, Congress decided that it wanted to crack down on millions of dollars in AIG bonuses. There was only one slight, teeny-tiny little problem - Congress does not have the Constitutional authority to do so. Then magically, Obama creates a new czar in his administration. This man would be a "special master on compensation." Ta-da! Now if the government wants to punish certain companies, all it has to do is call on its compensation czar.
Pretty clever, huh?
The day after our special master on compensation decided to slash executive pay, the Obama administration decided that it would be a good idea to clamp down on banks while we are at it. The Federal Reserve decided to curb executive pay packages "that encouraged bankers and other executives to take the kinds of reckless risks that contributed to the housing bubble." The housing bubble came from Washington, not from bank board rooms. It was Washington that told these banks that their future growth would be halted or curtailed if they didn't make sure that pretty much anyone with a pulse that wanted a home loan could get one. It was Washington that set up these extraordinary systems whereby banks could make the loans and then pass of the liability to the American taxpayers. It was WASHINGTON, not the banks, that took the reckless risks.
Goooin' up! Again. I guess the Democrats got jealous that Dubya made everybody think that the Republicans were the reckless spenders, so they've made damn sure that label stays where it belongs!
George Will explains how Obama has established the Social Security COLA as "the capstone to the architecture of the entitlement culture that is modern liberalism's crowning achievement."
The White House says that the government's economic stimulus spending has already had its biggest impact and probably won't contribute to significant growth next year. So... that was it? Aren't we glad we poured all that money down a rathole, for practically no effect whatsoever?
Where does the Constitution authorize Congress to require all Americans to carry health insurance? The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee can't answer that.
How out of touch are Republicans? This out of touch.
Healthcare is not about your health, it is about control.
The latest Gallup polls show an alarming drop in President Obama's approval ratings ... the worst drop for any president in his first year in office.
Looks like more Americans are figuring out the truth about this global warming scam.
Our Social Security system is going to come crashing down soon. Will that lead to the end of entitlement culture?
Could we be looking at a Fairness Doctrine for the Internet?
Darkaudit's favorite incompetent central Florida Representative is in trouble for bringing a poster on the House floor that could be construed as promoting his re-election campaign.
Victor Davis Hanson says that the real key to being a "popular" America seems to be to empathize with non-Western totalitarians. Hence Obama's popularity.
Our Health and Human Services Secretary says she will donate swine flu vaccinations to foreign countries before meeting US demand.
Want the latest on the ACORN video sting?
The government in Norway has decided to publish all tax returns online.
Fathers, don't let your daughters grow up to be westerners.
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Krisken
Krisken
#190
makare
makare
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Armadillo
So yeah, the Republicans will eat themselves as long as they continue to put up Democrat Lite candidates.
Armadillo
I'm not SUPER up on this race, seeing as how it's not my district, but what I have heard is that the Republican candidate is about as conservative as Richard Simmons is straight. For the stimulus, for Obama's health care reform, endorsed by ACORN. Endorsed by the founder of Daily Kos.This one nearly got past me until this week: GOP will eat itself - schism on the right puts Democrat candidate in NY 23rd Congressional district into the lead. A major split amongst right and far-right factions has allowed a Democrat to do and end-around them both. In a district that hasn't elected one since before the Civil War.
So yeah, the Republicans will eat themselves as long as they continue to put up Democrat Lite candidates.
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DarkAudit
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Krisken
Krisken
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SpecialKO
SpecialKO
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Krisken
Krisken
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Krisken
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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makare
makare
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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SpecialKO
SpecialKO
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crono1224
crono1224
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Covar
Covar
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crono1224
crono1224
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Covar
Covar
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Terrik
Terrik
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Covar
Covar
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Shakey
Shakey
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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Covar
Covar
#225
The Lovely Boehner
The Lovely Boehner
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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Shakey
Shakey
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Covar
Why not do it every 2 years with the regular elections?
I wonder what the chances are that a raise would ever pass.[/QUOTE]
I would assume it would be done with the normal federal elections. No need to waste money on organizing more elections.
@DarkAudit You're right. I forgot that the president and Congress have to answer to the UN. Wait that's not right. Oh right, the states hold them accountable. No, that's not it. Well shucks, it seems that only the voters have the ability to hire and fire people in those positions. Golly what could I be missing?
Oh. maybe you think it's these guys that are the bosses?
Covar
because having an election costs more than what we'd save[/QUOTE]
Why not do it every 2 years with the regular elections?
I wonder what the chances are that a raise would ever pass.[/QUOTE]
I would assume it would be done with the normal federal elections. No need to waste money on organizing more elections.
@DarkAudit You're right. I forgot that the president and Congress have to answer to the UN. Wait that's not right. Oh right, the states hold them accountable. No, that's not it. Well shucks, it seems that only the voters have the ability to hire and fire people in those positions. Golly what could I be missing?
Oh. maybe you think it's these guys that are the bosses?
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GasBandit
Ok, time for MY links
Gallup has found that, when you spell it out for people what it actually is to be a Libertarian, 23 percent of America is.
One of the first things you learn in Economics 101 is that there is no such thing as a free lunch. Well when it comes to healthcare, Barack Obama is offering free breakfast, lunch, dinner and dessert.
Could Washington's plans to rein in executive salaries eventually result in even higher executive pay?
From Victor Davis Hanson ... All Falling Down . . .
When it comes to banking, size isn't the only thing that matters.
The White House is catching a lot of flak for giving perks to its top donors.
How's that stimulus spending working out for ya? Philadelphia was awarded $157 million in federal funds. It has only spent $1 million so far and only saved 52 jobs.
Obama signed his first defense authorization bill, only after complaining that there was too much pork spending in the bill.
Guess who is back at the government trough ... GMAC! Boy, aren't we glad we bailed them out?
The Senate has agreed to extend the first-time homebuyer tax credit.
Ethics offices in Washington are at odds with each other, so they call in Nancy Pelosi to intervene.
This one ought to get the Turbochristians charged ... scientists have been able to grow artificial sperm and eggs.
Costco says that it is now going to start accepting food stamps.
(Canadian) right wing women rock (?)!
You can't go to Switzerland to die any more.
U.S. Official resigns because he doesn't know what we're fighting for in Afghanistan any more.
GasBandit
Lesse, what was it K-dawg said yesterday? Something to the effect of "You mean [he] apologized for it and so now everything completely fine?" :mmhmm: Guess everybody has to stop hating on Fox now, huh?
Heh, good for her, doubly so for sticking it to republicans, who were happy to ride her coattails of popularity during the election and then throw her to the wolves when she was no longer politically convenient. After all, if Bill Clinton can make 31 million in speaking fees in 4 years, I don't see why Palin can't get some scratch too.
You mean, while the commissioner was in washington anyway, he asked about another issue of recent national attention in which the commissioner was involved? And why the hell is the NFL commissioner being called to Washington to talk to a committee about sports injuries? Why is this a good use of our legislators' time?
I don't approve of Bush signing a flag, but really, this is just reaching. Bush signed a little dollar store flag that probably would have ended up in the garbage otherwise after the rally (it's not like all those little flags get full "burials with honors" like proper flags do), and the Glenn Beck thing is absolutely just a bunch of tilting at windmills. It wasn't even a real flag, it was a depiction of a flag. Beck did pretty much what innumerable political cartoonists and satirists have done in the past - change the iconography of the flag to something else to make a point.
Ok, time for MY links
Gallup has found that, when you spell it out for people what it actually is to be a Libertarian, 23 percent of America is.
One of the first things you learn in Economics 101 is that there is no such thing as a free lunch. Well when it comes to healthcare, Barack Obama is offering free breakfast, lunch, dinner and dessert.
Could Washington's plans to rein in executive salaries eventually result in even higher executive pay?
From Victor Davis Hanson ... All Falling Down . . .
When it comes to banking, size isn't the only thing that matters.
The White House is catching a lot of flak for giving perks to its top donors.
How's that stimulus spending working out for ya? Philadelphia was awarded $157 million in federal funds. It has only spent $1 million so far and only saved 52 jobs.
Obama signed his first defense authorization bill, only after complaining that there was too much pork spending in the bill.
Guess who is back at the government trough ... GMAC! Boy, aren't we glad we bailed them out?
The Senate has agreed to extend the first-time homebuyer tax credit.
Ethics offices in Washington are at odds with each other, so they call in Nancy Pelosi to intervene.
This one ought to get the Turbochristians charged ... scientists have been able to grow artificial sperm and eggs.
Costco says that it is now going to start accepting food stamps.
(Canadian) right wing women rock (?)!
You can't go to Switzerland to die any more.
U.S. Official resigns because he doesn't know what we're fighting for in Afghanistan any more.
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
Close. But think bigger.@DarkAudit You're right. I forgot that the president and Congress have to answer to the UN. Wait that's not right. Oh right, the states hold them accountable. No, that's not it. Well shucks, it seems that only the voters have the ability to hire and fire people in those positions. Golly what could I be missing?
Oh. maybe you think it's these guys that are the bosses?
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JONJONAUG
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Krisken
Krisken
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GasBandit
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Krisken
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Espy
Espy
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Krisken
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Espy
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Covar
Covar
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Krisken
Krisken
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Krisken
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GasBandit
And once again we see that the true motivation of these things isn't equality - it's revenge, sometimes even if only for the sins of the father.[/quote]
And once again we see Gas use hyperbole to further his egocentric view of how society would be perfect in his delusional world view.[/quote]
Not hyperbolic at all. You would correct an injustice by forcing an injustice, rather than forcing equality. And thanks for yet another ad hominem as well - they're like M&Ms
GasBandit
Which, of course, is a stupid comment that completely ignores the trends of our society. But living in your perfect, harmonious world where everyone is treated equal, gays, blacks, hispanics, women, elderly, and disabled aren't discriminated against must be nice.[/quote]
And once again we see that the true motivation of these things isn't equality - it's revenge, sometimes even if only for the sins of the father.[/quote]
And once again we see Gas use hyperbole to further his egocentric view of how society would be perfect in his delusional world view.[/quote]
Not hyperbolic at all. You would correct an injustice by forcing an injustice, rather than forcing equality. And thanks for yet another ad hominem as well - they're like M&Ms
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Krisken
And once again we see that the true motivation of these things isn't equality - it's revenge, sometimes even if only for the sins of the father.[/quote]
And once again we see Gas use hyperbole to further his egocentric view of how society would be perfect in his delusional world view.[/quote]
Not hyperbolic at all. You would correct an injustice by forcing an injustice, rather than forcing equality. And thanks for yet another ad hominem as well - they're like M&Ms[/quote]
I know. It's the only thing you understand. You certainly don't respond properly to reasoned arguments.
Why the hell should I play by the rules of proper debate when you happily throw them out the window at every opportunity?
Krisken
Which, of course, is a stupid comment that completely ignores the trends of our society. But living in your perfect, harmonious world where everyone is treated equal, gays, blacks, hispanics, women, elderly, and disabled aren't discriminated against must be nice.[/quote]
And once again we see that the true motivation of these things isn't equality - it's revenge, sometimes even if only for the sins of the father.[/quote]
And once again we see Gas use hyperbole to further his egocentric view of how society would be perfect in his delusional world view.[/quote]
Not hyperbolic at all. You would correct an injustice by forcing an injustice, rather than forcing equality. And thanks for yet another ad hominem as well - they're like M&Ms
[/quote]I know. It's the only thing you understand. You certainly don't respond properly to reasoned arguments.
Why the hell should I play by the rules of proper debate when you happily throw them out the window at every opportunity?
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Bowielee
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blotsfan
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makare
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blotsfan
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JONJONAUG
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makare
makare
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Krisken
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AshburnerX
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makare
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JONJONAUG
JONJONAUG
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makare
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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Krisken
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crono1224
crono1224
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blotsfan
blotsfan
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crono1224
crono1224
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crono1224
crono1224
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makare
makare
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The Lovely Boehner
The Lovely Boehner
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Espy
Espy
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GasBandit
After, all, if you increase the penalty for a given crime to the "hate crime" level of penalty but without the discrimination, the effect should still be the same benefit for those more at risk. To argue otherwise is to merely embrace the revenge/reparation motive, even if only subconsciously. Equal protection under the law. Equal protection. Not disproportionate protection according to status to assuage white guilt.
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GasBandit
There are mitigating circumstances such as self defense, sure. But as the man said, those LESSEN sentence, not INCREASE. So, by your logic, hate crime law is ok because "he was white" is a mitigating circumstance, and thus should have a lower sentence.
That's incorrect. Since severity of punishment is accepted as deterrent, deterrent becomes protection. To provide less deterrent for killing group A than you do for groups B, C, and D is injustice. The litmus test is, if it's equality, then the names should all be interchangeable.makare said:
After, all, if you increase the penalty for a given crime to the "hate crime" level of penalty but without the discrimination, the effect should still be the same benefit for those more at risk. To argue otherwise is to merely embrace the revenge/reparation motive, even if only subconsciously. Equal protection under the law. Equal protection. Not disproportionate protection according to status to assuage white guilt.
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There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Covar
Weren't you the guys ragging on people who saw things in black and white terms?[/QUOTE]
That's completely different Espy.
Covar
Governor Perry disagrees. The arrogant asshole.[/QUOTE]
Weren't you the guys ragging on people who saw things in black and white terms?[/QUOTE]
That's completely different Espy.
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Espy
Weren't you the guys ragging on people who saw things in black and white terms?[/QUOTE]
That's completely different Espy.[/QUOTE]
Are you implying a double standard is in place? I am SHOCKED. SHOCKED.
I just hope charlie never has to work at a job where people could die by using their product, like... a CAR company. Or a PHARMACEUTICAL company. Or a CHEESE company. Dude's gonna have to quit within like five minutes.
Espy
Governor Perry disagrees. The arrogant asshole.[/QUOTE]
Weren't you the guys ragging on people who saw things in black and white terms?[/QUOTE]
That's completely different Espy.
[/QUOTE]Are you implying a double standard is in place? I am SHOCKED. SHOCKED.
I just hope charlie never has to work at a job where people could die by using their product, like... a CAR company. Or a PHARMACEUTICAL company. Or a CHEESE company. Dude's gonna have to quit within like five minutes.
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makare
makare
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Covar
Covar
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makare
makare
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Covar
Covar
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makare
makare
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Iaculus
Iaculus
You know, there's a reason Western civilisation isn't run like the Imperium of Man.
We don't have Standard Template Constructs yet.
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Krisken
Weren't you the guys ragging on people who saw things in black and white terms?[/quote]
That's completely different Espy.[/quote]
Are you implying a double standard is in place? I am SHOCKED. SHOCKED.
I just hope charlie never has to work at a job where people could die by using their product, like... a CAR company. Or a PHARMACEUTICAL company. Or a CHEESE company. Dude's gonna have to quit within like five minutes.[/QUOTE]
I think what you guys are missing is we are not the same people. I have my views on things, and they have their views on things. There are degrees with which I agree with them, and degrees where I disagree. Don't be so SHOCKED. SHOCKED.
Krisken
Governor Perry disagrees. The arrogant asshole.[/quote]
Weren't you the guys ragging on people who saw things in black and white terms?[/quote]
That's completely different Espy.
[/quote]Are you implying a double standard is in place? I am SHOCKED. SHOCKED.
I just hope charlie never has to work at a job where people could die by using their product, like... a CAR company. Or a PHARMACEUTICAL company. Or a CHEESE company. Dude's gonna have to quit within like five minutes.[/QUOTE]
I think what you guys are missing is we are not the same people. I have my views on things, and they have their views on things. There are degrees with which I agree with them, and degrees where I disagree. Don't be so SHOCKED. SHOCKED.
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makare
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Espy
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GasBandit
[/QUOTE]
There, that rounds that off nicely.
GasBandit
Ive already explained why this wrong and since I hate redundancy I am not doing it again. REREAD THREAD.
[/QUOTE]
There, that rounds that off nicely.
Appeal to emotion ftw?makare said:
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Covar
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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makare
makare
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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makare
makare
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blotsfan
blotsfan
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The Lovely Boehner
The Lovely Boehner
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SpecialKO
SpecialKO
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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Bowielee
Bowielee
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Krisken
Krisken
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crono1224
crono1224
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Eriol
Eriol
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DarkAudit
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Espy
Espy
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Krisken
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Covar
Covar
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Krisken
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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Covar
Covar
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Krisken
Krisken
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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makare
makare
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Krisken
Krisken
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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makare
makare
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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Krisken
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makare
makare
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Terrik
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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crono1224
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Terrik
but this damn H1N1 thing made everyone check my temperature (while ignoring the Chinese people around me)[/QUOTE]
Qianmen area mostly. Im also not use to the Beijing system (restricted pick up areas, for instance)--or the fact that I've had taxi drivers tell me to "Take a bus"..and yes, the H1N1 thing is ridiculous.. surprisingly happens far, far less in Tianjin. I've had taxi drivers in Beijing tell me that they won't pick up foreigners because they think H1N1 is a foreigner disease and they don't want to catch it.
Terrik
I've never had a problem with a taxi in Beijing. were you trying to catch a cab near Tiananmen?
but this damn H1N1 thing made everyone check my temperature (while ignoring the Chinese people around me)[/QUOTE]
Qianmen area mostly. Im also not use to the Beijing system (restricted pick up areas, for instance)--or the fact that I've had taxi drivers tell me to "Take a bus"..and yes, the H1N1 thing is ridiculous.. surprisingly happens far, far less in Tianjin. I've had taxi drivers in Beijing tell me that they won't pick up foreigners because they think H1N1 is a foreigner disease and they don't want to catch it.
I'm tellin' ya Crono--find a school asap
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JONJONAUG
JONJONAUG
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Terrik
Terrik
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Espy
Espy
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Covar
Covar
HOT DAMN THAT'S MY DISTRICT!
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The Lovely Boehner
The Lovely Boehner
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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Krisken
Krisken
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Krisken
Krisken
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Covar
Covar
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makare
makare
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Bowielee
Bowielee
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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makare
makare
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Covar
Covar
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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makare
makare
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GasBandit
Well if there is a way to win or lose this argument, with that stupid comment you just lost. Good day sir.[/quote]
To quote Krisken - you wish.
GasBandit
Well if there is a way to win or lose this argument, with that stupid comment you just lost. Good day sir.[/quote]
To quote Krisken - you wish.
makare1 said:
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GasBandit
FTFY.I said good day.
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Covar
I've got nothing.
Covar
Robert Gibbs makes me ashamed of my University.
Every week for 20 years and not a word heard.\"GasBandit\" said:
Good thing they're not making things like Trucks and SUVs that no one wants.\"GasBandit\" said:
what's next? The earth is round?\"GasBandit\" said:
pfft, clearly you know nothing about economics.\"GasBandit\" said:
pfft, everyone knows that rigging the electronic machines are the way to go.\"GasBandit\" said:
\"GasBandit\" said:
I've got nothing.
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GasBandit
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
Yep it's election time, and the right automatically screams fraud. 
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GasBandit
GasBandit
The Diebold corporation just called, they said your extra strength irony shipment is ready.Yep it's election time, and the right automatically screams fraud.
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Krisken
Krisken
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DarkAudit
You're the last guy who should be mentioning Diebold.
DarkAudit
The Diebold corporation just called, they said your extra strength irony shipment is ready.[/QUOTE]Yep it's election time, and the right automatically screams fraud.
You're the last guy who should be mentioning Diebold.
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GasBandit
You're the last guy who should be mentioning Diebold.[/QUOTE]
Why do you think I mentioned it? Last decade or so the instant screams of FRAUD!! have been coming from the LEFT, not the right.
GasBandit
The Diebold corporation just called, they said your extra strength irony shipment is ready.[/quote]Yep it's election time, and the right automatically screams fraud.
You're the last guy who should be mentioning Diebold.[/QUOTE]
Why do you think I mentioned it? Last decade or so the instant screams of FRAUD!! have been coming from the LEFT, not the right.
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Iaculus
Iaculus
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Krisken
You're the last guy who should be mentioning Diebold.[/quote]
Why do you think I mentioned it? Last decade or so the instant screams of FRAUD!! have been coming from the LEFT, not the right.[/QUOTE]
I have a link that calls you a liar too.
http://www.truthaboutfraud.org/
Krisken
The Diebold corporation just called, they said your extra strength irony shipment is ready.[/quote]Yep it's election time, and the right automatically screams fraud.
You're the last guy who should be mentioning Diebold.[/quote]
Why do you think I mentioned it? Last decade or so the instant screams of FRAUD!! have been coming from the LEFT, not the right.[/QUOTE]
I have a link that calls you a liar too.
http://www.truthaboutfraud.org/
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DarkAudit
You're the last guy who should be mentioning Diebold.[/QUOTE]
Why do you think I mentioned it? Last decade or so the instant screams of FRAUD!! have been coming from the LEFT, not the right.[/QUOTE]
Liar.
DarkAudit
The Diebold corporation just called, they said your extra strength irony shipment is ready.[/quote]Yep it's election time, and the right automatically screams fraud.
You're the last guy who should be mentioning Diebold.[/QUOTE]
Why do you think I mentioned it? Last decade or so the instant screams of FRAUD!! have been coming from the LEFT, not the right.[/QUOTE]
Liar.
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Krisken
Krisken
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Iaculus
Iaculus
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Krisken
Krisken
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GasBandit
You're the last guy who should be mentioning Diebold.[/quote]
Why do you think I mentioned it? Last decade or so the instant screams of FRAUD!! have been coming from the LEFT, not the right.[/quote]
Liar.
[/QUOTE]
You linked Talking Points Memo. I'm going to remember that next time you accuse me of just parroting talking points. Grats on losing one of your favorite fallacious lines of attack.
Second of all - all but one of the items in that link are talking about ONE RACE. The one left out is from way back in 1993. Leftists called fraud in every election pretty much from 2000 to 2008. And you know it... because you've been right here screaming yourself hoarse about it since the day you registered.
This is really a textbook case of attempted distraction by the pot trying to call the kettle black
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Late addition to today's links - Even Arianna Huffington wants to know what happened to the hope and change and audacity and whatnot?
GasBandit
The Diebold corporation just called, they said your extra strength irony shipment is ready.[/quote]Yep it's election time, and the right automatically screams fraud.
You're the last guy who should be mentioning Diebold.[/quote]
Why do you think I mentioned it? Last decade or so the instant screams of FRAUD!! have been coming from the LEFT, not the right.[/quote]
Liar.
You linked Talking Points Memo. I'm going to remember that next time you accuse me of just parroting talking points. Grats on losing one of your favorite fallacious lines of attack.
Second of all - all but one of the items in that link are talking about ONE RACE. The one left out is from way back in 1993. Leftists called fraud in every election pretty much from 2000 to 2008. And you know it... because you've been right here screaming yourself hoarse about it since the day you registered.
This is really a textbook case of attempted distraction by the pot trying to call the kettle black
---------- Post added at 02:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:07 PM ----------
Late addition to today's links - Even Arianna Huffington wants to know what happened to the hope and change and audacity and whatnot?
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
Who says I'm losing anything? I'll link whatever I like and there's not a thing you can do about it. Because the truth BURRRRNNNNSSS.
Also this: The attempt to legalize cockfighting in WV casinos may have really just been a ploy to defeat a casino measure in Ohio.
Also this: The attempt to legalize cockfighting in WV casinos may have really just been a ploy to defeat a casino measure in Ohio.
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AshburnerX
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M52Dep_Ht9I[/ame]
I mean honestly... it's a fucking casino. Yes, crime may go up. You know what? Crime is ALREADY out of control here in Ohio. A fucking Casino isn't going to make it much worse than it already is.
AshburnerX
The shit about legalizing casinos is Ohio is oddly enough the most heated political debating I've seen in years. I mean honestly... how often do you get people claiming Casinos Kill Families!Who says I'm losing anything? I'll link whatever I like and there's not a thing you can do about it. Because the truth BURRRRNNNNSSS.
Also this: The attempt to legalize cockfighting in WV casinos may have really just been a ploy to defeat a casino measure in Ohio.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M52Dep_Ht9I[/ame]
I mean honestly... it's a fucking casino. Yes, crime may go up. You know what? Crime is ALREADY out of control here in Ohio. A fucking Casino isn't going to make it much worse than it already is.
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JONJONAUG
JONJONAUG
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
If it didn't matter, what the smurf were Gingrich, Palin, Pawlenty, Armey, Malkin, Limbaugh, and Beck doing there? It sure as hell mattered to them. Gloating over gaining a seat that would have easily gone red if the national wingnuttery had butted out? HELLS YEAH!
The governors races were done deals weeks ago. There were no surprises there. This was the battle for who leads the Republicans. The current answer is NO ONE. The infighting cost them the safest of all safe seats. Can you even grasp the significance of that?
The governors races were done deals weeks ago. There were no surprises there. This was the battle for who leads the Republicans. The current answer is NO ONE. The infighting cost them the safest of all safe seats. Can you even grasp the significance of that?
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The Lovely Boehner
The Lovely Boehner
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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Espy
Espy
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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SpecialKO
SpecialKO
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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SpecialKO
SpecialKO
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GasBandit
GasBandit
I have to chuckle at how shrill and maniacal DA's getting in his posts. Yelling, screaming, repeating the same word over again. If I didn't know better, I'd think he was a Republican trying to portray a stereotypical left wing nutcase stereotype.
I'm especially laughing at how he thinks the New York special election was a crushing defeat for the right, when the stated purpose was exactly what happened - Conservatives would rather guarantee a Democrat the seat than elect another Liberal in Republican clothing. Yeah, the Liberals can have that little NY district... they just lost the governorship of freaking Super-Uber-Blue NEW JERSEY. Big victory there, Democrats
What you didn't get was chasing that New York district into democrat hands was exactly what needed to be done. The Republican party is sick, diseased and hypocritical. It needs to be beaten and beaten and continued to be absolutely beaten down like a rented mule so long as it continues to put up candidates that are simply "Diet Democrats."
The idiots who constantly harp on the media about how the Republican party is further marginalizing itself by "chasing out all the moderates" are making 2 critical mistakes - 1) they weren't moderates, they were RINOs, and 2) pandering to moderates never won the Republicans anything, in fact it lost them the 2008 election. What energizes people to vote republican is when they actually go hardcore conservative. Reagan didn't get Elected twice by appealing to the Lindsey Grahams and Olympia Snowes of the world... he got elected twice by taking a hard conservative stance.
Well, let's get some links going, I suppose - Sorry for my continued absences, training 3 people at work here and sometimes it horns in on my free time
Did you know that Nancy Pelosi thinks that she and her fellow Democrats are ready to vote on a bill even though they don't know the price tag?
Senate Democrats have blocked a Republican attempt to require the next census forms to ask people whether they are a U.S. citizen.
For any of the scientists who do not buy into this global warming scam, Barack Obama says "We'll just have to deal with those people."
Spending in Washington right now isn't all thanks to Democrats. Republicans have had their share of earmarks lately.
How does the government pay to extend unemployment benefits? It extends a federal unemployment tax on employers. THAT'LL get them hiring again
In the aftermath of the government's cash for clunkers program, we learned that people who traded in their pickup trucks traded them in for ... pickup trucks.
Looks like Russia is gearing up for round two in a war with Georgia.
It's already time for these stories again ... Christmas tree vs. holiday tree.
Consider yourself warned. Two Republicans in the House yesterday warned the Obama administration that Congress cannot bailout the Financial Housing Administration. Rep. Darrell Issa and Rep. Spencer Bachus released a letter warning that if Washington does not take swift action to address the problems of the FHA, it may result in another massive taxpayer-funded bailout, which we cannot afford. First it was Fannie and Freddie. The next big shoe to drop is the FHA. One quarter of all home loans made this year were through the FHA, and 80% of those loans were to first-time home buyers. But the FHA may be in need of a bailout after suffering losses of $54 billion. And how does this happen? By making loans to people who can't afford to pay them. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
A list from the Politico: Obama's best, and worst, moves so far.
Did you know that CBO estimates on Pelosicare assume that the government will collect $167 billion over the next ten years from people who fail to buy insurance?
This is government ... a House panel set up to "bring meaningful change" to earmark reform has done nothing in last year except request more earmarks.
Some pundits believe that these elections this week showed that Democrats have lost the middle class vote, unless they get spending under control.
Barbara Boxer continues to work on her climate change bill in committee .. by herself.
The blog Big Hollywood has uncovered more videos of government school children singing the praises of Barack Obama. They are officially calling it an epidemic.
Apparently getting a raise in salary is considered a 'job saved' according to the federal government.
How about federal stimulus money that claimed to create/save 473 teaching jobs in an Illinois district that only employs 290 teachers.
When it comes down to it, CNN did not crack the top 30 cable networks in prime time.
Who knew there was such drama over what paintings hang on the walls of the White House?
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So the Republicans have come up with a 230-page healthcare alternative. It took the Democrats 1,990 pages. Wonder why it took so much more. Could it be perhaps because the Democrat plan grossly expands the federal government and bureaucracy?What does the Republican alternative include? Glad you asked. Some of the highlights are:
California Rep. George Miller has proposed new federal legislation that would force employers to provide paid time off for any workers that are told to stay home when they are sick. The excuse at hand is the Swine Flu. The real excuse? Labor unions ... and power.
White House Budget Director Peter Orszag warned Tuesday that large federal deficits will eventually imperil the U.S. economy. Gee, ya think?
After Northwest pilots overshot an airport by 150 miles, lawmakers now want to ban the use of computer laptops and other personal electronic devices in airline cockpits.
Hollywood receives help from the government, why no salary caps?
Sesame Street - teaching your kids to dis Fox News -
I'm especially laughing at how he thinks the New York special election was a crushing defeat for the right, when the stated purpose was exactly what happened - Conservatives would rather guarantee a Democrat the seat than elect another Liberal in Republican clothing. Yeah, the Liberals can have that little NY district... they just lost the governorship of freaking Super-Uber-Blue NEW JERSEY. Big victory there, Democrats
What you didn't get was chasing that New York district into democrat hands was exactly what needed to be done. The Republican party is sick, diseased and hypocritical. It needs to be beaten and beaten and continued to be absolutely beaten down like a rented mule so long as it continues to put up candidates that are simply "Diet Democrats."
The idiots who constantly harp on the media about how the Republican party is further marginalizing itself by "chasing out all the moderates" are making 2 critical mistakes - 1) they weren't moderates, they were RINOs, and 2) pandering to moderates never won the Republicans anything, in fact it lost them the 2008 election. What energizes people to vote republican is when they actually go hardcore conservative. Reagan didn't get Elected twice by appealing to the Lindsey Grahams and Olympia Snowes of the world... he got elected twice by taking a hard conservative stance.
Well, let's get some links going, I suppose - Sorry for my continued absences, training 3 people at work here and sometimes it horns in on my free time
Did you know that Nancy Pelosi thinks that she and her fellow Democrats are ready to vote on a bill even though they don't know the price tag?
Senate Democrats have blocked a Republican attempt to require the next census forms to ask people whether they are a U.S. citizen.
For any of the scientists who do not buy into this global warming scam, Barack Obama says "We'll just have to deal with those people."
Spending in Washington right now isn't all thanks to Democrats. Republicans have had their share of earmarks lately.
How does the government pay to extend unemployment benefits? It extends a federal unemployment tax on employers. THAT'LL get them hiring again
In the aftermath of the government's cash for clunkers program, we learned that people who traded in their pickup trucks traded them in for ... pickup trucks.
Looks like Russia is gearing up for round two in a war with Georgia.
It's already time for these stories again ... Christmas tree vs. holiday tree.
Consider yourself warned. Two Republicans in the House yesterday warned the Obama administration that Congress cannot bailout the Financial Housing Administration. Rep. Darrell Issa and Rep. Spencer Bachus released a letter warning that if Washington does not take swift action to address the problems of the FHA, it may result in another massive taxpayer-funded bailout, which we cannot afford. First it was Fannie and Freddie. The next big shoe to drop is the FHA. One quarter of all home loans made this year were through the FHA, and 80% of those loans were to first-time home buyers. But the FHA may be in need of a bailout after suffering losses of $54 billion. And how does this happen? By making loans to people who can't afford to pay them. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
A list from the Politico: Obama's best, and worst, moves so far.
Did you know that CBO estimates on Pelosicare assume that the government will collect $167 billion over the next ten years from people who fail to buy insurance?
This is government ... a House panel set up to "bring meaningful change" to earmark reform has done nothing in last year except request more earmarks.
Some pundits believe that these elections this week showed that Democrats have lost the middle class vote, unless they get spending under control.
Barbara Boxer continues to work on her climate change bill in committee .. by herself.
The blog Big Hollywood has uncovered more videos of government school children singing the praises of Barack Obama. They are officially calling it an epidemic.
Apparently getting a raise in salary is considered a 'job saved' according to the federal government.
How about federal stimulus money that claimed to create/save 473 teaching jobs in an Illinois district that only employs 290 teachers.
When it comes down to it, CNN did not crack the top 30 cable networks in prime time.
Who knew there was such drama over what paintings hang on the walls of the White House?
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So the Republicans have come up with a 230-page healthcare alternative. It took the Democrats 1,990 pages. Wonder why it took so much more. Could it be perhaps because the Democrat plan grossly expands the federal government and bureaucracy?What does the Republican alternative include? Glad you asked. Some of the highlights are:
- Increasing incentives for people to use health savings accounts
- Capping non-economic awards in medical malpractices cases
- Incentives for states to drive down premium costs
- Allowing health insurance to be sold across state lines
- No employer mandate
- No individual health insurance mandate
- It doesn't require insurers to cover pre-existing conditions
California Rep. George Miller has proposed new federal legislation that would force employers to provide paid time off for any workers that are told to stay home when they are sick. The excuse at hand is the Swine Flu. The real excuse? Labor unions ... and power.
White House Budget Director Peter Orszag warned Tuesday that large federal deficits will eventually imperil the U.S. economy. Gee, ya think?
After Northwest pilots overshot an airport by 150 miles, lawmakers now want to ban the use of computer laptops and other personal electronic devices in airline cockpits.
Hollywood receives help from the government, why no salary caps?
Sesame Street - teaching your kids to dis Fox News -
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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GasBandit
You have reached a level of absolute insanity I thought was possible only in comic books and subversive animated comedy.
GasBandit
I must applaud you, DarkAudit. Applaud!
You have reached a level of absolute insanity I thought was possible only in comic books and subversive animated comedy.
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Covar
Covar
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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DarkAudit
It may not matter to you out in Texas or wherever else, but mountaintop removal is a hot button issue over here.[/QUOTE]
Minnesota, actually. If mountaintop removal is big in West Virginia, that's for West Virginia to decide. I'm just not ready to decry an industry that has provided cheap, abundant energy, and isn't nearly as dirty as it once was.[/QUOTE]
Maybe not as dirty once it gets to the power plant, but the toll on the ecosystem during extraction is far higher. And just damn ugly.
The underlying message of the Friends of Coal to the state is "We own you. Body and soul we fucking own you." Blankenship had to be told by SCOTUS that he wasn't allowed to buy himself judges anymore.
DarkAudit
I like the mountains the way they are. Also the streams that for the moment still have clean water. Folks like Blankenship don't give two shits about anyone but himself. The pols and judges are to be put in his pocket to use as he sees fit, and everyone else better be making money for him or getting the fuck out of his way.
It may not matter to you out in Texas or wherever else, but mountaintop removal is a hot button issue over here.[/QUOTE]
Minnesota, actually. If mountaintop removal is big in West Virginia, that's for West Virginia to decide. I'm just not ready to decry an industry that has provided cheap, abundant energy, and isn't nearly as dirty as it once was.[/QUOTE]
Maybe not as dirty once it gets to the power plant, but the toll on the ecosystem during extraction is far higher. And just damn ugly.
The underlying message of the Friends of Coal to the state is "We own you. Body and soul we fucking own you." Blankenship had to be told by SCOTUS that he wasn't allowed to buy himself judges anymore.
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Terrik
Terrik
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
#406
DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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JONJONAUG
JONJONAUG
#409
Armadillo
Armadillo
#410
JONJONAUG
JONJONAUG
#411
Krisken
Whatever, watching Fox News now and laughing at delicious tears.[/QUOTE]
arty::horn:
Krisken
I'm willing to bet there are those who will disagree with the House healthcare bill passing being "good news."[/quote]
Whatever, watching Fox News now and laughing at delicious tears.[/QUOTE]
arty::horn:
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Espy
Espy
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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Krisken
Krisken
#415
Espy
Wha... wh...what? You do? Well.eace:
I have to warn you though Krisken, you shouldn't have done that. Now SHE is coming after you:
Espy
I agree man.[/QUOTE]
Wha... wh...what? You do? Well.
eace:I have to warn you though Krisken, you shouldn't have done that. Now SHE is coming after you:
#416
Krisken
Wha... wh...what? You do? Well.eace:
I have to warn you though Krisken, you shouldn't have done that. Now SHE is coming after you:
[/QUOTE]
It was a stupid move in trying to appease the Health Insurance industry so they wouldn't fight reform so hard. It's giving the enemy your sword so they will give you a shield. Eventually you'll still get stabbed.
Krisken
I agree man.[/quote]
Wha... wh...what? You do? Well.
eace:I have to warn you though Krisken, you shouldn't have done that. Now SHE is coming after you:
[/QUOTE]It was a stupid move in trying to appease the Health Insurance industry so they wouldn't fight reform so hard. It's giving the enemy your sword so they will give you a shield. Eventually you'll still get stabbed.
#417
Krisken
Krisken
#418
DarkAudit
DarkAudit
#419
GasBandit
Time for my links!
Over the weekend, in an unusual Saturday vote, Nancy managed to twist enough arms and her PelosiCare legislation passed. The vote was within five: 220-215. That means 39 Democrats aren't going to be attending Nancy Pelosi's Christmas party, and one Republican will be an honorary guest. Republican Rep. Anh "Joseph" Cao of Louisiana voted for the bill. So now we head to the Senate. There are already rumblings that the bill may not pass the Senate, but even if that comes to be true, it's only temporary. The American people have rescinded ownership of their own destiny, proving out the moral assertions of every two-bit tyrant and comic book supervillain - people don't want to be free, they want to be kept. The only freedom Americans still want is the kind that comes without responsibility - the freedom to pick whether they watch American Idol or Dancing with the Stars.
Apparently, links have been found between the Fort Hood shooter and the 9/11 hijackers. That such a man was still in the army is an embarrasment.
The slippery slope of government is no more - there's no slope, now it's just an immediate vertical drop.
This is a list of the winners and the losers, hand-picked by Nancy Pelosi and outlined in her healthcare bill.
Black protesters in Washington over the weekend believe that "Obama is white power in black face."
http://healthcare.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2NlYTJjZGQ1MDMyNjZjNjU1MGE0NTc5YzJkZjQ3ZGM=Mark Steyn points to a potentially fatal flaw at the heart of what we have called, since 9/11, the "war on terror."
Have you ever noticed that higher income taxes do not translate into smaller budget deficits? Seems that many politicians have yet to notice this.
George Will expounds on this global warming fraud in the lead up to Copenhagen.
Residents in a village in New York will be allowed to cast as many as six votes for one trustee candidate, after a judge ruled that the village voting system was unfair to Hispanics.
The G-20 wants to tax banks and other financial institutions to help fund future government emergency aid, but Timothy Geithner says that the US won't back that plan.
LA Times - Taking a look at polling trends, it seems that the Obama administration has managed to return America to "politics as usual" rather than living up to expectation.
One Congressman's idea of "transparency" includes installing cameras in every room on Capitol Hill.
Looks like Russia may be changing its tune on sanctions against Iran. Maybe this is why ... a secret watchdog report believes that Iran may have already tested an advanced nuclear warhead design.
Freddie Mac posted a $5 billion loss and it predicted that it would need more taxpayer support. BOHICA!
Hugo Chavez is readying his military for war as a deterrent to any US-led attack.
Our debate about healthcare reform has come down to this ...
GasBandit
But apparently, "community organizing" is?
Which howler monkeys? I know I (as well as Covar, Armadillo, and many others) have all repeatedly stated that the problem with the Republican party is it isn't conservative, thus leading to no actual real political choice.
Time for my links!
Over the weekend, in an unusual Saturday vote, Nancy managed to twist enough arms and her PelosiCare legislation passed. The vote was within five: 220-215. That means 39 Democrats aren't going to be attending Nancy Pelosi's Christmas party, and one Republican will be an honorary guest. Republican Rep. Anh "Joseph" Cao of Louisiana voted for the bill. So now we head to the Senate. There are already rumblings that the bill may not pass the Senate, but even if that comes to be true, it's only temporary. The American people have rescinded ownership of their own destiny, proving out the moral assertions of every two-bit tyrant and comic book supervillain - people don't want to be free, they want to be kept. The only freedom Americans still want is the kind that comes without responsibility - the freedom to pick whether they watch American Idol or Dancing with the Stars.
Apparently, links have been found between the Fort Hood shooter and the 9/11 hijackers. That such a man was still in the army is an embarrasment.
The slippery slope of government is no more - there's no slope, now it's just an immediate vertical drop.
This is a list of the winners and the losers, hand-picked by Nancy Pelosi and outlined in her healthcare bill.
Black protesters in Washington over the weekend believe that "Obama is white power in black face."
http://healthcare.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2NlYTJjZGQ1MDMyNjZjNjU1MGE0NTc5YzJkZjQ3ZGM=Mark Steyn points to a potentially fatal flaw at the heart of what we have called, since 9/11, the "war on terror."
Have you ever noticed that higher income taxes do not translate into smaller budget deficits? Seems that many politicians have yet to notice this.
George Will expounds on this global warming fraud in the lead up to Copenhagen.
Residents in a village in New York will be allowed to cast as many as six votes for one trustee candidate, after a judge ruled that the village voting system was unfair to Hispanics.
The G-20 wants to tax banks and other financial institutions to help fund future government emergency aid, but Timothy Geithner says that the US won't back that plan.
LA Times - Taking a look at polling trends, it seems that the Obama administration has managed to return America to "politics as usual" rather than living up to expectation.
One Congressman's idea of "transparency" includes installing cameras in every room on Capitol Hill.
Looks like Russia may be changing its tune on sanctions against Iran. Maybe this is why ... a secret watchdog report believes that Iran may have already tested an advanced nuclear warhead design.
Freddie Mac posted a $5 billion loss and it predicted that it would need more taxpayer support. BOHICA!
Hugo Chavez is readying his military for war as a deterrent to any US-led attack.
Our debate about healthcare reform has come down to this ...
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Armadillo
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Armadillo
We're kind of a clique that way.
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So all the evidence that is coming out that Hasan had extremist tendencies, attended the same mosque as a couple of the 9/11 hijackers under an imam known for radicalism, that he shouted the famous "Allahu Akbar!" as he opened fire on American soldiers, that he expressed sympathy for suicide bombers, that he saw the American military as "oppressors," none of this is relevant or important in the investigation? I really wish I could live in that world; it sounds much more pleasant than reality.
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Covar
Covar
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ElJuski
ElJuski
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Covar
Covar
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DarkAudit
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He was a Major. The amount of people looking after him is much smaller than most.[/QUOTE]
By all accounts, a push-button Major. Standard practice is for Army doctors to start as a Captain, then advance to Major upon becoming a specialist.
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DarkAudit
I'm dubious of anything called "evidence" that's not coming directly out of Ft. Hood. If Glenn Beck has taught us anything, it's that you can link everything to everything if you don't let reality get in the way. I'd prefer the investigation be done by law enforcement and the Army, and not the wingnut press of either side.
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More importantly, how the fuck did this guy who OBVIOUSLY has PROBLEMS stay productive in the military for that long? I'm not denying that this single guy is a religious nut whackjob, I'm wondering how they didn't rout out the religious zealot psychiatrist before this could happen.[/QUOTE]
He was a Major. The amount of people looking after him is much smaller than most.[/QUOTE]
By all accounts, a push-button Major. Standard practice is for Army doctors to start as a Captain, then advance to Major upon becoming a specialist.
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When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way...We're kind of a clique that way.
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Armadillo
Armadillo
Which one are you?
OR
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Covar
Covar
#427
Armadillo
Armadillo
#428
DarkAudit
3x Stanley Cup Champions.
Combined total for Sharks & Jets/Coyotes: 0
DarkAudit
3x Stanley Cup Champions.
Combined total for Sharks & Jets/Coyotes: 0
#429
Covar
Covar
#430
Armadillo
My bear-animal-landscape-thingy can eat your penguin for breakfast and crap out the stick by lunch.
Armadillo
My bear-animal-landscape-thingy can eat your penguin for breakfast and crap out the stick by lunch.
#431
Covar
Covar
#433
DarkAudit
DarkAudit
Oh dear, have I caused a rift? 
#434
Armadillo
Armadillo
Stay out of this, Cindy-lover. This is between me and the Whalers fan.Oh dear, have I caused a rift?
#435
Covar
Covar
#436
DarkAudit
[/QUOTE]
She doesn't just revel in her stupidity, she makes it a plank in her campaign.eace:
She's railing against moving "In God We Trust" to the edge of U.S. coins. Just one problem there, Sarah. They did that in 2007. The Obama administration moved it back.
So much concentrated stupid in one place. It's gonna reach critical mass soon.
DarkAudit
But apparently, "community organizing" is?
[/QUOTE]
She doesn't just revel in her stupidity, she makes it a plank in her campaign.
eace:She's railing against moving "In God We Trust" to the edge of U.S. coins. Just one problem there, Sarah. They did that in 2007. The Obama administration moved it back.
So much concentrated stupid in one place. It's gonna reach critical mass soon.
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Krisken
Krisken
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JONJONAUG
JONJONAUG
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
#441
Espy
Espy
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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Covar
Covar
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Krisken
Krisken
#445
Espy
Espy
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Krisken
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."[/quote]
You know, normally I would agree but in this case? I don't think anyone would have said a thing about him attending the Berlin Wall ceremonies. I really don't think the majority of conservatives and republicans would have said a damn thing about it.
It's... a rather big deal, especially to the party that's "greatest" modern leader helped to bring about.[/QUOTE]
You have a whole lot more faith in our leaders than I do
Krisken
Sure he didn't go, but at least we'll have the 2016 Olympics in Chicago...[/quote]
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."[/quote]
You know, normally I would agree but in this case? I don't think anyone would have said a thing about him attending the Berlin Wall ceremonies. I really don't think the majority of conservatives and republicans would have said a damn thing about it.
It's... a rather big deal, especially to the party that's "greatest" modern leader helped to bring about.[/QUOTE]
You have a whole lot more faith in our leaders than I do
#449
GasBandit
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."[/quote]
You know, normally I would agree but in this case? I don't think anyone would have said a thing about him attending the Berlin Wall ceremonies. I really don't think the majority of conservatives and republicans would have said a damn thing about it.
It's... a rather big deal, especially to the party that's "greatest" modern leader helped to bring about.[/quote]
You have a whole lot more faith in our leaders than I do[/quote]
Apparently not, given the relative stances on government controlled health care.
The issue with the olympics trip wasn't simply about Obama going to another country. It's sad that's all you took away from it.
GasBandit
Sure he didn't go, but at least we'll have the 2016 Olympics in Chicago...[/quote]
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."[/quote]
You know, normally I would agree but in this case? I don't think anyone would have said a thing about him attending the Berlin Wall ceremonies. I really don't think the majority of conservatives and republicans would have said a damn thing about it.
It's... a rather big deal, especially to the party that's "greatest" modern leader helped to bring about.[/quote]
You have a whole lot more faith in our leaders than I do
[/quote]Apparently not, given the relative stances on government controlled health care.
The issue with the olympics trip wasn't simply about Obama going to another country. It's sad that's all you took away from it.
#450
Krisken
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."[/quote]
You know, normally I would agree but in this case? I don't think anyone would have said a thing about him attending the Berlin Wall ceremonies. I really don't think the majority of conservatives and republicans would have said a damn thing about it.
It's... a rather big deal, especially to the party that's "greatest" modern leader helped to bring about.[/quote]
You have a whole lot more faith in our leaders than I do[/quote]
Apparently not, given the relative stances on government controlled health care.
The issue with the olympics trip wasn't simply about Obama going to another country. It's sad that's all you took away from it.[/QUOTE]
Oh do explain, then. Obviously what I took from it was political hee-hawing by people who have nothing better to do during the 24 hour news cycle.
But please, educate me. Explain what is so obvious to you. I can't wait to hear this one.
Krisken
Sure he didn't go, but at least we'll have the 2016 Olympics in Chicago...[/quote]
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."[/quote]
You know, normally I would agree but in this case? I don't think anyone would have said a thing about him attending the Berlin Wall ceremonies. I really don't think the majority of conservatives and republicans would have said a damn thing about it.
It's... a rather big deal, especially to the party that's "greatest" modern leader helped to bring about.[/quote]
You have a whole lot more faith in our leaders than I do
[/quote]Apparently not, given the relative stances on government controlled health care.
The issue with the olympics trip wasn't simply about Obama going to another country. It's sad that's all you took away from it.[/QUOTE]
Oh do explain, then. Obviously what I took from it was political hee-hawing by people who have nothing better to do during the 24 hour news cycle.
But please, educate me. Explain what is so obvious to you. I can't wait to hear this one.
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GasBandit
GasBandit
#452
Krisken
Krisken
#453
GasBandit
GasBandit
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Espy
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."[/quote]
You know, normally I would agree but in this case? I don't think anyone would have said a thing about him attending the Berlin Wall ceremonies. I really don't think the majority of conservatives and republicans would have said a damn thing about it.
It's... a rather big deal, especially to the party that's "greatest" modern leader helped to bring about.[/QUOTE]
You have a whole lot more faith in our leaders than I do[/QUOTE]
No, I think it's just common sense that the President going to this particular event would be very unlikely to draw fire from the other side. I understand you don't want to criticize him for this, he's your guy, but you can damn well bet that if Bush had done this he'd get the same treatment from me and far worse from the press and rightly so.
Espy
Sure he didn't go, but at least we'll have the 2016 Olympics in Chicago...[/quote]
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."[/quote]
You know, normally I would agree but in this case? I don't think anyone would have said a thing about him attending the Berlin Wall ceremonies. I really don't think the majority of conservatives and republicans would have said a damn thing about it.
It's... a rather big deal, especially to the party that's "greatest" modern leader helped to bring about.[/QUOTE]
You have a whole lot more faith in our leaders than I do
[/QUOTE]No, I think it's just common sense that the President going to this particular event would be very unlikely to draw fire from the other side. I understand you don't want to criticize him for this, he's your guy, but you can damn well bet that if Bush had done this he'd get the same treatment from me and far worse from the press and rightly so.
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Krisken
Krisken
#456
Espy
Espy
#457
JONJONAUG
JONJONAUG
#458
Krisken
Is that a better way to put it?
Krisken
I can't speak for everyone, but for me I don't think it's a big deal. I'd find the same criticism of Bush a little silly if it had been him.
Is that a better way to put it?
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Espy
Espy
#460
GasBandit
GasBandit
#461
Armadillo
Armadillo
#462
JONJONAUG
JONJONAUG
#463
rabbitgod
rabbitgod
#464
DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Covar
Covar
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Krisken
Krisken
#468
Armadillo
Armadillo
#469
Krisken
Krisken
#470
GasBandit
GasBandit
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Espy
Espy
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Krisken
Agreed. These women are off their rockers.
Krisken
That is absolutely disgusting.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. These women are off their rockers.
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Covar
Covar
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Krisken
Krisken
#476
AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Krisken
Krisken
#481
Espy
Espy
#482
DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Krisken
Krisken
#484
GasBandit
GasBandit
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Krisken
Krisken
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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Krisken
Krisken
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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AshburnerX
AshburnerX
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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Krisken
Krisken
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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Krisken
Krisken
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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Krisken
Krisken
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Covar
Covar
I don't recall having to buy my own Christmas gifts.
People still won't listen to liberal talk radio.
more transparent government, two years ago we wouldn't have been told about the shredded files.
still not a terrorist. am i rite.
You mean funding they never had?
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DarkAudit
DarkAudit
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Covar
Covar