Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats
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ElJuski
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More importantly, how the fuck did this guy who OBVIOUSLY has PROBLEMS stay productive in the military for that long? I'm not denying that this single guy is a religious nut whackjob, I'm wondering how they didn't rout out the religious zealot psychiatrist before this could happen.
More importantly, how the fuck did this guy who OBVIOUSLY has PROBLEMS stay productive in the military for that long? I'm not denying that this single guy is a religious nut whackjob, I'm wondering how they didn't rout out the religious zealot psychiatrist before this could happen.[/QUOTE]
He was a Major. The amount of people looking after him is much smaller than most.
I'm dubious of anything called "evidence" that's not coming directly out of Ft. Hood. If Glenn Beck has taught us anything, it's that you can link everything to everything if you don't let reality get in the way. I'd prefer the investigation be done by law enforcement and the Army, and not the wingnut press of either side.
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More importantly, how the fuck did this guy who OBVIOUSLY has PROBLEMS stay productive in the military for that long? I'm not denying that this single guy is a religious nut whackjob, I'm wondering how they didn't rout out the religious zealot psychiatrist before this could happen.[/QUOTE]
He was a Major. The amount of people looking after him is much smaller than most.[/QUOTE]
By all accounts, a push-button Major. Standard practice is for Army doctors to start as a Captain, then advance to Major upon becoming a specialist.
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When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way...We're kind of a clique that way.
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Which one are you?
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Fixed. It worked before, honest.
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My bear-animal-landscape-thingy can eat your penguin for breakfast and crap out the stick by lunch.
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Stay out of this, Cindy-lover. This is between me and the Whalers fan.Oh dear, have I caused a rift?
But apparently, "community organizing" is?
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She doesn't just revel in her stupidity, she makes it a plank in her campaign.
eace:She's railing against moving "In God We Trust" to the edge of U.S. coins. Just one problem there, Sarah. They did that in 2007. The Obama administration moved it back.
So much concentrated stupid in one place. It's gonna reach critical mass soon.
GasBandit
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This Fort Hood business gets worse and worse. The FBI was all over him in 2008. Apparently the Army already had knowledge that Hasan was in contact with Al Qaeda. At the risk of being repetitive, HOW was this guy not drummed out a long time ago? Some heads had seriously better roll in this guy's chain of command.
This is the story of Congressman Jim Costa. He's a Democrat (big surprise there) from California (another big surprise). Costa decided that it could help the government seize control of our health care system, but there was a price. Some big bucks would have to be spent in his district. So ... here come the big dollars in the form of $120 million dollars for a medical school ... and there goes his vote in favor of PelosiCare. Don't you love the way congress works? There are probably dozens of stories just like this one.
After months of indecisiveness, Barack Obama finally has his strategy for Afghanistan. He is going to pretty-much honor General McChrystal's request and will send four combat brigades and thousands of support troops. Looks like the dithering is over ... for now. At least we finally have a decision from the President. I'm happy to say that leftist panties are already in a wad over this one. Let's take Barney Frank. Barney has already decided that he will oppose a troop increase in Afghanistan.
Anybody remember Kelo vs New London? The worst supreme court decision EVAR? That allowed government to sieze the private homes of private citizens so the land could be handed over to Pfizer so they could expand and pay more taxes? Well, turns out Pfizer's packed up and left town, and the siezed property is now just weeds and dirt.
Guess who is back at the government trough? Fannie Mae! After being seized by the government last year, Fannie Mae may have to ask the government taxpayers for more money. The company is unable to sell $5.2 billion in tax credits to Goldman Sachs. Last week, the treasury decided that Fannie Mae couldn't sell $2.6 billion in low-income housing tax credits because it would result in a loss of tax revenue. Overall, we have poured $60 billion into this sucker.
Chris Dodd is going to unveil his financial regulation bill today. That we still let this man anywhere near our national financial policy is tantamount to evidence of national insanity.
It's beginning to look a lot like the late 70s.
Foreign papers say that Obama did not attend the Berlin Wall ceremonies because they were not centered around him.
This whole healthcare debate comes down to one thing: do you trust the government to determine what is best for your life? The answer should be obvious, folks.
British spies managed to foil a terrorist plot by a suspected al Qaeda operative to blow up the New York subway.
The White House has indicated that is won't rule out using budget reconciliation rules in order to pass healthcare reform.
Even the bleedingest of hearts are seeing that the health care DEform bill takes us one step closer to bankruptcy.
This article pretty much sums is up: government force is at the heart of Obamacare.
The Supreme Court turned down last-minute appeals from the DC sniper mastermind John Allen Muhammad.
This story is certainly making the rounds. An Obama protester who was apparently beaten by union thugs.
As of right now, 58% of Americans believe that a Republican will be our next president. Great, get that knife out of our chest, so you can stab us again properly, yes?
Do you remember Louisiana Rep. William Jefferson, convicted on federal charges of bribery, fraud, money laundering? The feds want to lock him up for up to 33 years.
Republicans say that the Democrats are putting their agenda ahead of the country. Same could be said for the Republicans too.
Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele plays the race card.
I guess this is what they mean by free speech in Cuba.
The state of New York: Broke by Xmas?
This is the story of Congressman Jim Costa. He's a Democrat (big surprise there) from California (another big surprise). Costa decided that it could help the government seize control of our health care system, but there was a price. Some big bucks would have to be spent in his district. So ... here come the big dollars in the form of $120 million dollars for a medical school ... and there goes his vote in favor of PelosiCare. Don't you love the way congress works? There are probably dozens of stories just like this one.
After months of indecisiveness, Barack Obama finally has his strategy for Afghanistan. He is going to pretty-much honor General McChrystal's request and will send four combat brigades and thousands of support troops. Looks like the dithering is over ... for now. At least we finally have a decision from the President. I'm happy to say that leftist panties are already in a wad over this one. Let's take Barney Frank. Barney has already decided that he will oppose a troop increase in Afghanistan.
Anybody remember Kelo vs New London? The worst supreme court decision EVAR? That allowed government to sieze the private homes of private citizens so the land could be handed over to Pfizer so they could expand and pay more taxes? Well, turns out Pfizer's packed up and left town, and the siezed property is now just weeds and dirt.
Guess who is back at the government trough? Fannie Mae! After being seized by the government last year, Fannie Mae may have to ask the government taxpayers for more money. The company is unable to sell $5.2 billion in tax credits to Goldman Sachs. Last week, the treasury decided that Fannie Mae couldn't sell $2.6 billion in low-income housing tax credits because it would result in a loss of tax revenue. Overall, we have poured $60 billion into this sucker.
Chris Dodd is going to unveil his financial regulation bill today. That we still let this man anywhere near our national financial policy is tantamount to evidence of national insanity.
It's beginning to look a lot like the late 70s.
Foreign papers say that Obama did not attend the Berlin Wall ceremonies because they were not centered around him.
This whole healthcare debate comes down to one thing: do you trust the government to determine what is best for your life? The answer should be obvious, folks.
British spies managed to foil a terrorist plot by a suspected al Qaeda operative to blow up the New York subway.
The White House has indicated that is won't rule out using budget reconciliation rules in order to pass healthcare reform.
Even the bleedingest of hearts are seeing that the health care DEform bill takes us one step closer to bankruptcy.
This article pretty much sums is up: government force is at the heart of Obamacare.
The Supreme Court turned down last-minute appeals from the DC sniper mastermind John Allen Muhammad.
This story is certainly making the rounds. An Obama protester who was apparently beaten by union thugs.
As of right now, 58% of Americans believe that a Republican will be our next president. Great, get that knife out of our chest, so you can stab us again properly, yes?
Do you remember Louisiana Rep. William Jefferson, convicted on federal charges of bribery, fraud, money laundering? The feds want to lock him up for up to 33 years.
Republicans say that the Democrats are putting their agenda ahead of the country. Same could be said for the Republicans too.
Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele plays the race card.
I guess this is what they mean by free speech in Cuba.
The state of New York: Broke by Xmas?
You really should stop posting health care stuff.
In this case, Real Clear Politics lives up to it's name. It's clearly politics. Unfortunately, it's very low on anything resembling understanding of how healthcare works in this country.
This is possibly the worst written article I've seen in a long time. It shows an amazingly poor understanding on health information, how it saves money, and how having conditions that must be met ensure patient safety and the security of patient information.Gasbandit said:
In this case, Real Clear Politics lives up to it's name. It's clearly politics. Unfortunately, it's very low on anything resembling understanding of how healthcare works in this country.
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A rebuttal to McCaughey's latest health care misinformation
Also contains a lot of accurate information about the health care bill by quoting the bill itself, if anyone wants to read it.
Also contains a lot of accurate information about the health care bill by quoting the bill itself, if anyone wants to read it.
It's actually closer to "Do I want someone who I KNOW doesn't have my best interests at heart to decide what kind of coverage I get, or do I want to trust it to someone who might fuck it up?" One is a known negative, the other is only a potential negative. I'd sooner take the potential.
I think they are closer to it than a company that has a personal stake (protecting their profit margin) in denying me coverage. The government has a stake in keeping me healthy, as a healthy society is more able to produce. I'm simply unsure of their ability to pull it off.
Honestly, I think the best option would be for the government to choose a well run private organization, or even a handful of them, and simply pay them to run it and accept everyone. It seems to work well in other countries.
Sure he didn't go, but at least we'll have the 2016 Olympics in Chicago...
Sure he didn't go, but at least we'll have the 2016 Olympics in Chicago...[/QUOTE]
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."
Sure he didn't go, but at least we'll have the 2016 Olympics in Chicago...[/QUOTE]
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."[/QUOTE]
You know, normally I would agree but in this case? I don't think anyone would have said a thing about him attending the Berlin Wall ceremonies. I really don't think the majority of conservatives and republicans would have said a damn thing about it.
It's... a rather big deal, especially to the party that's "greatest" modern leader helped to bring about.
Sure he didn't go, but at least we'll have the 2016 Olympics in Chicago...[/QUOTE]
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."[/QUOTE]
You know, normally I would agree but in this case? I don't think anyone would have said a thing about him attending the Berlin Wall ceremonies. I really don't think the majority of conservatives and republicans would have said a damn thing about it.
It's... a rather big deal, especially to the party that's "greatest" modern leader helped to bring about.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps, but it's also been a very crucial time for the Healthcare bill too. It seems like his time was better spent helping that along, at least to me.
Sure he didn't go, but at least we'll have the 2016 Olympics in Chicago...[/QUOTE]
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."[/QUOTE]
This. He caught hell for going to Copenhagen to campaign for the Olympics. if he had stayed home, he would have been the only head of state not to attend, and would have caught hell for that.
And to go off in another direction entirely...
Did Glenn Beck rape and murder a young girl in 1990? Why won't he deny the charge? The Internet wants to know.
Fox's right hand doesn't know what it's far-right hand is doing. Nice knowing ya, Britt.
So now the official Fox Noise position is Obama is a racist. It cost Glenn Beck most of his advertisers. How many will bail on the network altogether?
Sure he didn't go, but at least we'll have the 2016 Olympics in Chicago...[/quote]
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."[/quote]
You know, normally I would agree but in this case? I don't think anyone would have said a thing about him attending the Berlin Wall ceremonies. I really don't think the majority of conservatives and republicans would have said a damn thing about it.
It's... a rather big deal, especially to the party that's "greatest" modern leader helped to bring about.[/QUOTE]
You have a whole lot more faith in our leaders than I do
GasBandit
Staff member
Sure he didn't go, but at least we'll have the 2016 Olympics in Chicago...[/quote]
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."[/quote]
You know, normally I would agree but in this case? I don't think anyone would have said a thing about him attending the Berlin Wall ceremonies. I really don't think the majority of conservatives and republicans would have said a damn thing about it.
It's... a rather big deal, especially to the party that's "greatest" modern leader helped to bring about.[/quote]
You have a whole lot more faith in our leaders than I do
[/quote]Apparently not, given the relative stances on government controlled health care.
The issue with the olympics trip wasn't simply about Obama going to another country. It's sad that's all you took away from it.
Sure he didn't go, but at least we'll have the 2016 Olympics in Chicago...[/quote]
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."[/quote]
You know, normally I would agree but in this case? I don't think anyone would have said a thing about him attending the Berlin Wall ceremonies. I really don't think the majority of conservatives and republicans would have said a damn thing about it.
It's... a rather big deal, especially to the party that's "greatest" modern leader helped to bring about.[/quote]
You have a whole lot more faith in our leaders than I do
[/quote]Apparently not, given the relative stances on government controlled health care.
The issue with the olympics trip wasn't simply about Obama going to another country. It's sad that's all you took away from it.[/QUOTE]
Oh do explain, then. Obviously what I took from it was political hee-hawing by people who have nothing better to do during the 24 hour news cycle.
But please, educate me. Explain what is so obvious to you. I can't wait to hear this one.
GasBandit
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When Obama went to denmark, it was not to commemorate a great blow for freedom. It was to smile and schmooze and execute a charm offensive in an insulting and vulgar attempt to sway the IOC so he could put a feather in his cap and say "Look, I brought the olympics to MY TOWN. Because I'm so popular." There was countless media coverage on what he was doing, what his wife was doing, and the utter transparency of the whole affair made it a revolting display. It was all about Obama. It was him being the campaign rock star again. But, it seems the IOC was immune to Hopenosis (pity more Americans weren't).
Berlin is different. Berlin would have been about commemorating the triumph of freedom and democracy over tyranny, oppression and statism... Obama probably didn't find the fall of the wall (or the Soviet Union, for that matter) anything to really celebrate, and found it especially unappetizing to go because the focus would have been on a triumph of liberty (and yes, capitalism) instead of on what a swell guy Obama is.
When Obama went to denmark, it was not to commemorate a great blow for freedom. It was to smile and schmooze and execute a charm offensive in an insulting and vulgar attempt to sway the IOC so he could put a feather in his cap and say "Look, I brought the olympics to MY TOWN. Because I'm so popular." There was countless media coverage on what he was doing, what his wife was doing, and the utter transparency of the whole affair made it a revolting display. It was all about Obama. It was him being the campaign rock star again. But, it seems the IOC was immune to Hopenosis (pity more Americans weren't).
Berlin is different. Berlin would have been about commemorating the triumph of freedom and democracy over tyranny, oppression and statism... Obama probably didn't find the fall of the wall (or the Soviet Union, for that matter) anything to really celebrate, and found it especially unappetizing to go because the focus would have been on a triumph of liberty (and yes, capitalism) instead of on what a swell guy Obama is.[/QUOTE]
If I made assumptions about actions like this made by Bush you'd be laughing at me. And rightly so.
Assume I'm doing this now.
GasBandit
Staff member
When Obama went to denmark, it was not to commemorate a great blow for freedom. It was to smile and schmooze and execute a charm offensive in an insulting and vulgar attempt to sway the IOC so he could put a feather in his cap and say "Look, I brought the olympics to MY TOWN. Because I'm so popular." There was countless media coverage on what he was doing, what his wife was doing, and the utter transparency of the whole affair made it a revolting display. It was all about Obama. It was him being the campaign rock star again. But, it seems the IOC was immune to Hopenosis (pity more Americans weren't).
Berlin is different. Berlin would have been about commemorating the triumph of freedom and democracy over tyranny, oppression and statism... Obama probably didn't find the fall of the wall (or the Soviet Union, for that matter) anything to really celebrate, and found it especially unappetizing to go because the focus would have been on a triumph of liberty (and yes, capitalism) instead of on what a swell guy Obama is.[/quote]
If I made assumptions about actions like this made by Bush you'd be laughing at me. And rightly so.
Assume I'm doing this now.[/quote]
The assumptions were also made pretty much by everyone who saw it. Reference my link above - FTA:
Sure he didn't go, but at least we'll have the 2016 Olympics in Chicago...[/quote]
I call "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on this one.
He goes to Germany, Republicans here say "He cares more about other countries than America". He stays and it's "He doesn't properly honor historical events."[/quote]
You know, normally I would agree but in this case? I don't think anyone would have said a thing about him attending the Berlin Wall ceremonies. I really don't think the majority of conservatives and republicans would have said a damn thing about it.
It's... a rather big deal, especially to the party that's "greatest" modern leader helped to bring about.[/QUOTE]
You have a whole lot more faith in our leaders than I do
[/QUOTE]No, I think it's just common sense that the President going to this particular event would be very unlikely to draw fire from the other side. I understand you don't want to criticize him for this, he's your guy, but you can damn well bet that if Bush had done this he'd get the same treatment from me and far worse from the press and rightly so.
I did read it Gas. I just find it to be a non-story. I'm sure it's as interesting to me as an analysis on Bush's bad speeches is to you. A political non-issue. Or as the Onion calls it, bull-shit.
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Would Bush have drawn fire from the left? Probably. Again, you guys would have probably rolled your eyes and said he had other shit to do here. And rightly so.
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In a world of terrorist fist jabs, mission accomplished, hair cut costs, cackling laughs, and various other filler stories, nothing is common sense.
Would Bush have drawn fire from the left? Probably. Again, you guys would have probably rolled your eyes and said he had other shit to do here. And rightly so.