[Movies] The DC Cinematic Universe - The David Zazlav Dumpster Fire.

"The Speedforce should be like, a metaphor for powers from God."

"Zack stop, that's ridicu-"

"And then! Just as Barry's about to win the day over Zoom, have Superman come in and break Zoom's neck!"

"Zack please, we ca-"

"AND FINALLY WE'LL HAVE A SLO-MO SHOT OF REVERSE FLASH EATING BARRY'S PARENTS ALIVE"

"Zack why?"
 
Apparently there are some rumors that director James Wan may walk from the Aquaman movie.

So much for Warner Bros.'s claims of DC being the "auteur-driven" competitor to Marvel.
 
"We should show what sex is like for The Flash!"
"Zack, listen - "
"Hey, can I do, like, a close up shot of some girl's whatnots burning? Like, literally burning from the friction?"
"We could've had Joss Whedon on Wonder Woman."[DOUBLEPOST=1461977567,1461977207][/DOUBLEPOST]I can just imagine what the Flash director said.

"Look at this Flash TV show."
"UGH! That's digusting! What is that?"
"What?"
"That...colour that isn't bleak looking!"
"That's...red."
"Like, crimson?"
"No, red. It's crimson, but lighter."
"...I don't understand. And what is with all these smiles? And people having fun?"
"I'd really break your brain if I showed you Supergirl."
 
Remember when this happened for Ant-Man waaaaaaay later in production and it still produced a successful and not-bad movie?

nah, me either, DC is going to go under lol

also i dunno why you think marvel movies doing great HURTS DC. Both companies go out of their way to open movies MONTHS apart. At worst, it does nothing, and I slightly suspect it's closer to a "rising tide lifts all boats" situation. You people are the ONLY ones that care about this rivalry, most everyone else just sees every big explodey world ending blockbuster.
 
Remember when this happened for Ant-Man waaaaaaay later in production and it still produced a successful and not-bad movie?
I plan to see Ant-Man this weekend, but even if it's really good, I'm sure it would've been better with Edgar Wright.

Man of Steel also went through a director switch, which is what started this whole Snyderverse in the first place. So like with Snyder for Superman, they'll shop around "who's willing to work under our terms?" They'll find people. For Man of Steel, it was "who's willing to start making the movie before the script is done?" Darren Aronofsky bailed over that issue, but Zack Snyder had no such qualms. I don't think these directors are leaving because they don't want to make movies of these characters or think this DC franchise is going to fail; I think they don't want to make the movies that WB wants them to make.
 
Wasn't most production finished on Ant-Man by the time Wright left? I can't remember. I know they used the majority of his script. That's not the case with these DC movies. They're struggling to keep these directors from the onset.
 
most everyone else just sees every big explodey world ending blockbuster.
And this is where "shitty movie X made elebenty kajillion dollars at the box office to finish at #1 for the week" type news irks me. It doesn't account for the movie costing twelbe kajillion dollars to make. It doesn't account for a single ticket costing two kajillion dollars each. It doesn't even account for no one else releasing a movie at all for the last six weeks.

Give me the number of unique asses in seats. That way we know if it's just the same three or four rabid fanbois overpaying for their tickets or not.

(And in the interest of full disclosure, when I was a kid you weren't a "real" Star Wars fan (and at the time there was just Star Wars) unless you'd seen it at least ten times by the end of that summer.)
 
I plan to see Ant-Man this weekend, but even if it's really good, I'm sure it would've been better with Edgar Wright.

Man of Steel also went through a director switch, which is what started this whole Snyderverse in the first place. So like with Snyder for Superman, they'll shop around "who's willing to work under our terms?" They'll find people. For Man of Steel, it was "who's willing to start making the movie before the script is done?" Darren Aronofsky bailed over that issue, but Zack Snyder had no such qualms. I don't think these directors are leaving because they don't want to make movies of these characters or think this DC franchise is going to fail; I think they don't want to make the movies that WB wants them to make.

Ant-Man's pleasantly good. Granted, I came in with low expectations. The movie is what it is: a step above the Shield TV show, and a step below all the other Marvel films. I liked it.
 
Ant-Man's pleasantly good. Granted, I came in with low expectations. The movie is what it is: a step above the Shield TV show, and a step below all the other Marvel films. I liked it.
I'd argue it's above at least Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk, Thor 2, and Age of Ultron.
 
I'd argue it's above at least Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk, Thor 2, and Age of Ultron.
Age of Ultron is slightly more epic in scale (being an Avengers movie), but yeah, I think it's surpassed Iron Man 2 and Thor 2. I'd rank Incredible Hulk on the same level as Ant-Man, but I'm an Ed Norton fan.
 
95th largest second weekend drop. And not even the largest of the year thanks to Hardcore Henry's wet fart (57th).
Maybe it was just percentage? Or maybe they were doing the thing they did to give BvS a positive title in the first place. "Biggest March opening!" In the competitive month of March. So maybe it was biggest March drop or something. But I don't think WB liked articles running with that title, true or not.

Ant-Man's pleasantly good. Granted, I came in with low expectations. The movie is what it is: a step above the Shield TV show, and a step below all the other Marvel films. I liked it.
Watching it tonight! I want to be caught up on Marvel movies before Civil War next weekend.
 
Maybe it was just percentage? Or maybe they were doing the thing they did to give BvS a positive title in the first place. "Biggest March opening!" In the competitive month of March. So maybe it was biggest March drop or something. But I don't think WB liked articles running with that title, true or not.
The Hollywood Reporter said:
Zack Snyder's Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice plunged 69 percent in its second weekend — one of the biggest drops in history for a marquee superhero title — even as it easily stayed No. 1.
The Hollywood Reporter said:
The only major studio superhero movie to see a decline approaching 70 percent was X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which fell 69 percent in its second outing. Man of Steel dipped 65 percent.
Also,

Forbes said:
Batman v Superman has set a new record for the worst Friday-to-Sunday drop for a superhero movie release in modern North American box office history. In dropping 55% from its $82 million Friday debut to its $37 million gross on Sunday, it pummeled all prior records for weakness in theatrical staying power. It even beat the nearly universally reviled and now long-forgotten Fantastic Four reboot, which dropped a comparatively modest 48% across its opening weekend in the summer of 2015.
(Forbes)
 
I'm glad that Bryan Cranston thing was debunked, because if they had actually the choice between Eisenberg and Cranston and went with Eisenberg, it'd be all the more reason to hate this shit. Of course, since they've thrown Jr. onto Eisenberg's character, there's still room to have someone else play a more true to form Lex Luthor ... well, try to, while WB cocks this whole thing one movie after another.

Let's see how they bungle Wonder Woman. And when that fails, because Marvel/Disney isn't super-reactionary and kneejerk the way WB is, they won't cancel Captain Marvel and Jessica Jones season 2 under some stupid pretense that women won't make good superheroes, the way WB would if the shoe was on the other foot.
 
I'm glad that Bryan Cranston thing was debunked, because if they had actually the choice between Eisenberg and Cranston and went with Eisenberg, it'd be all the more reason to hate this shit. Of course, since they've thrown Jr. onto Eisenberg's character, there's still room to have someone else play a more true to form Lex Luthor ... well, try to, while WB cocks this whole thing one movie after another.

Let's see how they bungle Wonder Woman. And when that fails, because Marvel/Disney isn't super-reactionary and kneejerk the way WB is, they won't cancel Captain Marvel and Jessica Jones season 2 under some stupid pretense that women won't make good superheroes, the way WB would if the shoe was on the other foot.
this is the first fan fiction i've read, not of superheros, but movie studios making superhero movies
 
Wasn't most production finished on Ant-Man by the time Wright left? I can't remember. I know they used the majority of his script. That's not the case with these DC movies. They're struggling to keep these directors from the onset.
From what I recall, essentially Kevin Feige wanted Edgar Wright to make Ant-Man have the same kind of visual style as the MCU, and Edgar Wright wanted to do something different, and in the end they both agreed that he wasn't the guy to make the movie they wanted. Would Ant-Man have been a better movie? Hard to say. I really enjoy Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz, don't especially like The World's End, couldn't really get into Scott Pilgrim vs The World - though that could be Michael Cera and mediocre source material.
 
From what I recall, essentially Kevin Feige wanted Edgar Wright to make Ant-Man have the same kind of visual style as the MCU, and Edgar Wright wanted to do something different, and in the end they both agreed that he wasn't the guy to make the movie they wanted. Would Ant-Man have been a better movie? Hard to say. I really enjoy Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz, don't especially like The World's End, couldn't really get into Scott Pilgrim vs The World - though that could be Michael Cera and mediocre source material.
Scott Pilgrim vs The World, as an adaption of the source material and it's visual style, is SPOT ON. It takes some liberties and goes in different directions sometimes (many of which the author/artist of the original comics actually approved of) but the movie is every bit as excellent as the graphic novels it was based on. Edgar Wright did a phenomenal job with it. Even Michael Cera did a good job in that movie.

It's just that the story is... well... a weird story about relationship issues, as influenced by the media and music of the millennial generation. It's very much tied to it's "white, middle class kid's hard lessons about love" framework and that doesn't work for everybody. It also revels in the awkwardness of it's characters; some find this endearing and some find it off-puting, just like in real life. The constant references to games and 8-bit music can be a bit much for people who don't care about that stuff. It's certainly not for everyone.
 
It's hard to relate and feel anything for Pilgrim through a lot of the movie because he's written as a selfish dipwad. It allows for a greater growth as a character, but it's easy to find yourself with an intense dislike of him for most of the flick.
 
It's hard to relate and feel anything for Pilgrim through a lot of the movie because he's written as a selfish dipwad. It allows for a greater growth as a character, but it's easy to find yourself with an intense dislike of him for most of the flick.
That's part of the point. He's a 20 something selfish brat, basically... something many people go through in their lives. In the movie adaptation, he even discovers that Nega-Scott is actually a nice guy.

But, I could be biased, because Scott Pilgrim vs The World is one of my favorite movies. And the comic series isn't bad, either.
 
He's great by the end. The movie is a lot smarter than it pretends to be, which is weird.

It's a niche film. I showed it to a group of friends and none of them liked it. They didn't dislike it exactly; they were just put off by the whole experience. For me, it was my favorite movie from that year and I love watching it.
 
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