[Movies] Captain America: Civil War (spoilers!)

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

bhamv3 said:
I think (or even hope) that Cap and Bucky don't have a role in the Black Panther movie, or are just very minor supporting roles at best. Otherwise they'd steal the spotlight from T'Challa. Ulysses Klaw's already been introduced in the MCU, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's the antagonist. My guess is that the basic premise will be that Klaw's going after more of the Vibranium, and T'Challa will have to stop him.

And surely everyone's going to come back for the fight against Thanos (barring any deaths along the way). If Cap does shout "Avengers assemble" somewhere along the line, I'd hope it's in the final conflict, when everything seems lost, and he utters an inspiring rally cry that drives his allies forward for one last push. Man, I can imagine that scene.

Also, it wouldn't surprise me if Infinity War 1 and 2 have mostly different sets of protagonists, due to the superhero bloat in the MCU right now. So, for example, part 1 involves the more "grounded" heroes, like Cap and Iron Man and the rest of the human Avengers. Part 2 is when things get kicked up a notch, which would then require a more cosmic force to fight against Thanos. This is where the Guardians of the Galaxy, Dr. Strange, and the Asgardians get involved.
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I think I wrote about this before, but if I were writing at least the first Infinity War movie? It'd be a race. You mix and match various heroes and send them off in smaller teams after each of the Infinity Stones. Basically, it a race to collect them before Thanos does. And you do some interesting team-ups, like maybe Groot and Hulk, Rocket and Iron Man, Star-Lord and Cap, etc. Assuming they're including The Defenders, maybe Daredevil and Hawkeye (one's blind, one has hearing issues).

And at the end, they fail. Thanos slips the last stone into the Infinity Gauntlet, raises it victoriously...and everything fades to white as he rewrites reality. Credits.

The second movie is the original Infinity Gauntlet story (which started with Thanos already having the Gauntlet), done in an MCU manner.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

stienman said:
I'd prefer team ups that involve polar opposites rather than people with similar abilities/skills/powers. I like watching waves crash...
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That's true, too. I thought Cap/Star-Lord might be interesting as two out-of-time guys. Hulk/Groot would only be interesting if MCU Hulk talked more.
 
Celt Z

Celt Z

I don't know if this is a spoiler, but I'm playing the DLC stages for Lego Marvel Avengers, and in the Black Panther stage, he is fighting Klaw and The Black Knight. Now, this could be just a coincidence and the characters they decided to use, but when Lego Marvel Superheroes was released, they made a point of using playable characters from all the upcoming movies, though a number of them hadn't be announced to the public yet.
 
CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Klaw would be a good villain for Black Panther, being a Vibranium smuggler. He's a pretty powerful guy as he learns how to properly use his sonic weapon, at one point becoming living sound if I remember right.

I can't remember Black Knight all that well. I think he's a Captain Britain villain?
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Don't think they would go with something as simple as a smuggling story.

Instead, they will have something in which Klaw uses his new vast wealth from Age of Ultron to try and take over the country, making his claim over the Vibranium easier and more legitimate, using someone else in the royal family as a pawn in the process of dethroning T'Challa. Two good options are his adopted brother, Hunter, or his half-brother, Jakarra

It would have T'Challa on the run using his incredible agility to uncover the plot while he runs from Klaws mercs and his own Hetut Zeraze through the jungles.
 
Celt Z

Celt Z

I should have said it is the Augustine du Lac Black Knight in the game, but then again that could mean nothing in the MCU.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Celt Z said:
I don't know if this is a spoiler, but I'm playing the DLC stages for Lego Marvel Avengers, and in the Black Panther stage, he is fighting Klaw and The Black Knight. Now, this could be just a coincidence and the characters they decided to use, but when Lego Marvel Superheroes was released, they made a point of using playable characters from all the upcoming movies, though a number of them hadn't be announced to the public yet.
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Squirrel Girl was in Lego Marvel Superheroes, too, but there's no Squirrel Girl movie.

Where's the Squirrel Girl movie, Celt?! WHERE'S THE SQUIRREL GIRL MOVIE?! HUH?!

...because I'd actually like to see that.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

It only just dawned on me tonight that Spider-man could be in Avengers 3 and 4.

This all is so crazy. And for many of these movies to be good on top of all that is extra crazy.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I think it's funny that in some reviews I've seen, some people are bashing the conflict in this movie as "obviously Iron Man is right" and then others "obviously Captain America is right" and that both sides think their view is that clearly correct speaks to the strength of the movie's legislative conflict.

Of course by the end, it's much much deeper.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

Staff member
Well, speaking as a libertarian, obviously Cap is right :D If he had to wait for the oversight committee to give its blessing, HydraSHIELD would have minigunned millions of Americans to death. And if SHIELD can be so thoroughly taken over by Hydra, who's to say the international committe couldn't be, even more easily?
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

And then you have Half in the Bag going "obviously Iron Man is right, these guys need to be put in check." Even just having the difference in point of view from audience informs on why there would be differences in point of view in the movie.

But yeah, I'm with you. Not just anyone, but Captain America being charge of it, I trust him.
 
Celt Z

Celt Z

ThatNickGuy said:
Squirrel Girl was in Lego Marvel Superheroes, too, but there's no Squirrel Girl movie.

Where's the Squirrel Girl movie, Celt?! WHERE'S THE SQUIRREL GIRL MOVIE?! HUH?!

...because I'd actually like to see that.
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Ummm...well, it's...ah, the thing is.....look over there! It's Kevin Feige!

*flees*
 
evilmike

evilmike

Saw a fun fan theory: "Their first team-up"


It's not completely perfect -- the kid looks a little young for the timeline, but the Stark Expo was held in Queens.
 
Null

Null

I love that they included the definitive Captain America speech, but had it delivered to, not by, Steve Rogers, and instead helping him to hold firm to his beliefs and act.
 
Frank

Frank

Damn, it only took 2 weeks for Civil War to beat BvS's worldwide box office and it's like 20 million from beating it's domestic take too.
 
Null

Null

It's amazing what having a coherent script, fully realized characters, and strong storytelling can do.

Also the comedy value of three jacked dudes in an old school Volkswagen Beetle is vastly underrated. "Can you move your seat up?" "No." And then this:
 
Null

Null

It just occurred to me why Steve, by far the strongest of the pallbearers, seems to be having a much harder time carrying the coffin.

The other pallbearers are carrying a wooden coffin and a body.

Steve is carrying one of the foundations of his entire world.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

QUEENS



Though that does remind me of one minor nitpick or gripe for the movie: the location text taking up the entire screen. Am I the only one who found that mildly annoying? Why didn't they just use the usual tiny text in the corner?
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

ThatNickGuy said:
Though that does remind me of one minor nitpick or gripe for the movie: the location text taking up the entire screen. Am I the only one who found that mildly annoying? Why didn't they just use the usual tiny text in the corner?
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They traveled all over the map in this movie. It reaches a point where even with the little text you kind of drown it out by some point and may not actually notice it the next time a big location change happens, which can leave the audience confused when it says they are in Vienna and then suddenly they are in Bucharest. I think they compensated for that by just making the location text become impossible to miss, so you know without a shadow of a doubt that they are somewhere else compared to a few moments ago.
 
Dave

Dave

Staff member
I talked to quite a few people who were happy the location text was so large and frankly so was I. It wasn't distracting in the least to me.
 
Celt Z

Celt Z

Null said:
It just occurred to me why Steve, by far the strongest of the pallbearers, seems to be having a much harder time carrying the coffin.

The other pallbearers are carrying a wooden coffin and a body.

Steve is carrying one of the foundations of his entire world.
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Why you gotta do this to me, Null?! :cry:
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I just realized how monstrous the scope of Avengers 3 and 4 must be. We have Ant-Man and Wasp and later Captain Marvel coming out in between those movies, suggesting there's at least some passage of time between.
 
Null

Null

I think it's also worth noting that Captain America: Civil War is significant for having three major black characters, without making a big deal that they're black. Rhodey is the most staunch supporter of the accords, because he's believed they (and Tony) needed oversight all the way back to Iron Man 2, and that fits with him being a devoted military man. Sam Wilson trusts Steve's leadership, but he wants Steve to be sure he's doing what he does for the right reasons, because as Sam reminds him, it's not just his neck on the block. He and Bucky being slightly antagonistic BFFs was a real treat, his fighting scenes were awesome - especially how versatile he used his wings, not to mention Redwing, a fantastic adaptation to what would have been a silly gimmick from the comics. And Chadwick Boseman as Black Panther was amazing. Majestic, dangerous, implacable, but also smart and self-controlled enough to keep his options open. When he finds out that Zemo, not Barnes, was behind the bombing that killed King T'Chaka, and saw how the cycle of revenge was destroying Earth's Mightiest Heroes, he stood down. It's all well and good to tell us a character is smart, it's all well and good to say they have certain attributes, but T'Challa showed it - intelligence, wisdom, and good judgement, by his actions.
 
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