"racism", "xenophobia", and "hatred of foreigners"' have gotten seriously mixed up these past years, and they're not the same. Still, you're the one who named it "racism" to be aggressive towards Polish or whatever. It isn't, as it has nothing to do with racism. Hatred of foreigners and "the other" is pretty universal, the naming convention may change.
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GasBandit
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Actually, it is. There is more than one "white" race. A lot more.
Most things called racism aren't; it's nationalism and xenophobia against those perceived as foreigners. Skin color or ethnicity really are just easy ways to distinguish who might belong or not and fairly irrelevant on the whole. This isn't the "Civil War" racism of "black people are worth 2/3rds of a white person", but "they're stealing our jobs"/"destroying our culture" economic racism, as is more prevalent vs Hispanics in America.
GasBandit
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You're having a completely different conversation than me and everybody else, but what else is new.
Most things called racism aren't; it's nationalism and xenophobia against those perceived as foreigners. Skin color or ethnicity really are just easy ways to distinguish who might belong or not and fairly irrelevant on the whole. This isn't the "Civil War" racism of "black people are worth 2/3rds of a white person", but "they're stealing our jobs"/"destroying our culture" economic racism, as is more prevalent vs Hispanics in America.
We still have a bit of the Irish Vs German Vs Italian stuff here in the Westside of Columbus, OH but it'd be a stretch to call it racism these days. The religious stuff is an issue though; whether you are Catholic or Protestant can open and close doors here.
ME: "there's been, and sometimes still is, racism against people of the same skin color. e.g. what the Irish and Italian people have been faced with in the recent past and sometimes still are"
Some others ITT: "if you go out west/outside of campus towns/etc, you still find it in places" and "I was faced with discrimination as an outsider while white"
ME: "discrimination towards outsiders is often called "racism" these days but is often reverse nationalism and has more to do with perceived otherness than race, strictly speaking".
ME: "...so? Fuck off".
GasBandit
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Your summary is skewed and inaccurate. I know your panties are up your ass in the tightest of twists about your personal financial stuff lately so I'm trying not to take it personally, but you need to slow your roll, honky.
It started when people in the UK started acting bigoted. Therefore, let us blame the bigots for this little tiff, and we shall all agree that bigots are dicks.
SO... shit going down in the tory party! its THE NIGHTMARE PARTY ELECTION NOBODY WANTED!
So far, excluding a couple of smaller names, we haaaave:
Jeremy "Complete and Total" Hunt - Health secretary. Fucked over the NHS, wrote books advocating privatising it. Universally loathed by pretty much every doctor, nurse and careworker in the UK. Was responsible for the biggest NHS strike since ever. Big fan of homeopathy.
Theresa May, home secretary, fucking mentalist. has suggested actually banning encryption as a way to beat the terrorists. was supposedly Remain, but wants to get the UK out of the European Commision on Human Rights.
Boris Johnson - he's Boris Johnson. you know who he is, and what he's done. Was the de-facto leader of the brexit camp, because he was the only one with a semi-functioning personality module. Is expected to throw his hat into the ring today, with Michael Gove as his supporter, one of the other big brexiteers.
and as of this morning:
Michael gove: former education secretary, til he fucked that up royally. one of the big people of the Brexit camp. Loyal supporter of Boris Johnson, up until he wasn't, and wanted to test out his best backstabbing skills.
So far, excluding a couple of smaller names, we haaaave:
Jeremy "Complete and Total" Hunt - Health secretary. Fucked over the NHS, wrote books advocating privatising it. Universally loathed by pretty much every doctor, nurse and careworker in the UK. Was responsible for the biggest NHS strike since ever. Big fan of homeopathy.
Theresa May, home secretary, fucking mentalist. has suggested actually banning encryption as a way to beat the terrorists. was supposedly Remain, but wants to get the UK out of the European Commision on Human Rights.
Boris Johnson - he's Boris Johnson. you know who he is, and what he's done. Was the de-facto leader of the brexit camp, because he was the only one with a semi-functioning personality module. Is expected to throw his hat into the ring today, with Michael Gove as his supporter, one of the other big brexiteers.
and as of this morning:
Michael gove: former education secretary, til he fucked that up royally. one of the big people of the Brexit camp. Loyal supporter of Boris Johnson, up until he wasn't, and wanted to test out his best backstabbing skills.
UPDATE:
oh god.
hunts pulled out, nicky morgans pulled out. BORIS has pulled out.
the next prime ministers going to be Theresa may D:
oh god.
hunts pulled out, nicky morgans pulled out. BORIS has pulled out.
the next prime ministers going to be Theresa may D:
I believe the phrase you're looking for is "Having a Fox in charge of the Henhouse."
Dave
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I'm out of the loop. Is that bad? Is she going to be worse than Boris would have been?
Theresa may is very bad. She's one of the big proponents of the Investigatory powers bill, which has the lovely nickname of the "Snoopers Charter", which along with a bunch of other either unworkable or insane policies, requires all web history and traffic to be accessible and stored for an entire year. Before it got removed/toned down for being batshit, there was also talk of banning end-to-end encyption, as it helped the terrorists. in her climbdown, she said she didn't want keys to encryption, she just wanted the readable data.
She's a fucking mentalist.
and up until this morning, she was in favour of removing the UK from the European Commission on Human Rights.
She's a fucking mentalist.
GasBandit
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Does mentalist mean something different in the UK than it does here (psychic/mind reader)?
Well.....She's mental. And she also believes in mentalism.
GasBandit
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It just seemed like awkward phrasing.Well.....She's mental. And she also believes in mentalism.
"This person is bad! She wanted to violate commonly held rules of privacy! She's a goddamned magician!"
I do agree; I'm not sure which meaning he intended. But she's definitely mental, and she also believes in a bunch of fake crap, so both apply
I assume that's because of the weird restrictions on brand names in British media when it is not explicitly advertising.Only thing wrong with that is he didn't read the "tiny fingered, cheeto faced, ferret wearing shitgibbon" tweet.
From a piece on The Kinks' "Lola":
--Patrick
TBS is not British media.
Theresa May watched V For Vendetta and based her vision of britain on that
Dave
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That's based on a true story from Larry David. He quit SNL and just stormed out, then went back to work on Monday after he realized he'd screwed up. It worked like a charm.
TODAYS UPDATE:
Nigel Farage has resigned as head of UKIP.
the partys sole MP, Douglas Carswell responded like this
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So now the three main architects of this absolute shitshow have resigned or abdicated responsibility. Cameron, Johnson and Farage. well fucking done.
Nigel Farage has resigned as head of UKIP.
the partys sole MP, Douglas Carswell responded like this
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So now the three main architects of this absolute shitshow have resigned or abdicated responsibility. Cameron, Johnson and Farage. well fucking done.
If any of them asks you to carry them across a river on your back, you should probably turn them down.
--Patrick
