[PC Game] World of Warcraft: Catch All Thread
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Have you ever logged in from CICU and immediately been invited to that night's raid?
(I can't use that excuse anymore.)
Hell yeah I am a super dirty casual, in any expansion before this I would have shit for gold. I remember gasping in WOTLK because of how much I had to save to make my Mechano-Hog, because having over 10k in WOTLK at my more casual pace felt like an eternity.I mean, technically Scythe is a casual because he's not a hardcore raider, he just farms gold to no real purpose and has fun doing it.
WoD though is the most casual friendly expansion to ever exist. Due to the Garrison you literally just log on for five minutes and you get loads of gold AND epic raid gear weekly. I have one character with near full Blackrock Foundry gear, making thousand of gold a week, and with maxed out gear tokens, and I never even took them into a WoD dungeon, let alone a raid.
Add in heirlooms and XP potions and even the leveling is super fast now for dirty altoholics like me. I actually have a little system where I get to 92 to unlock Gorgrond, do the bonus objective areas down to one kill / pick-up, chug the 15 minute 300% XP potion, then just fly around completing the objectives and picking up treasures (remember, they give a quests worth of XP too). I am 92 to 100 in an hour.
Anyways back on topic, I don't really "farm" gold, not in the old sense. I just let my Garrison do the work, which is why I am going to miss it once the nerf hits and it becomes worthless from that point forward. Say what you will about it, but some of us really liked having something that required a big upfront investment and then reaped us tons of benefits over time for little to no further investment. That works way better for me then doing dailies for hours every day just to stay on top of things at a constant, exhausting pace.
Many people sort of confuse "casual" with "non-raider". You could easily be a casual and also raid, but in doing so you often avoided other things, like say during WOTLK you never touched the Argent Tournament because you were too busy trying to kill Arthas in Normal Mode an hour each night.
Being casual is all about the time you are willing to invest. Someone that plays 5+ hours a day can be considered hardcore, someone that fit in an hour each night or less is much more casual no matter what they do. The issue is that game play systems designed for casual players often get screwed because the hardcore 5 hour guy will burn through the content 5 times as fast, but if you make things just for hardcore players then the casuals feel they can never "catch up" and thus give up. It's so difficult to balance for both groups.
It's why so much content ends up being gated recently or involve timers, because it's the only way to keep hardcore and casual players on a similar progression track.
Being casual is all about the time you are willing to invest. Someone that plays 5+ hours a day can be considered hardcore, someone that fit in an hour each night or less is much more casual no matter what they do. The issue is that game play systems designed for casual players often get screwed because the hardcore 5 hour guy will burn through the content 5 times as fast, but if you make things just for hardcore players then the casuals feel they can never "catch up" and thus give up. It's so difficult to balance for both groups.
It's why so much content ends up being gated recently or involve timers, because it's the only way to keep hardcore and casual players on a similar progression track.
Now I need to learn all the useful mods again, and just how to do damage as a hunter.
People who raid normal only are still casual.
(Also if you can't tell my tone of voice is not serious in this post, this is a notice.)
Keep in mind that I always had a hefty amount of max level alts while at the same time being a server first raider. I just never felt the need to spend my time doing stuff like farming gold, because it seemed silly.
I had to disable toast notifications just because of @ScytheRexx popping in and out of his alts. I was having actual difficulty playing my game because the pop-ups kept getting in the way.
--Patrick
Yeah, sorry about that...
I keep hoping for Tokens to go below 40k so I can buy a few more months of gameplay. I'm sitting at about 212k on 3 lvl 100's and am currently paid up till August 21st due to past tokens. Have a monk at 97 and a rogue at 92 but no real urge to level in the last few months. Also i'm a huge filthy casual, still haven't bothered to get draenor flying.
Dave
Staff member
Draenor flying is a HUGE pain in the ass.
Eh, I found the rep part to be the worst but if you've resigned yourself to Tanaan dailies for at least a week, or blow a little cash on some Legion Tokens, it's not so bad.
Yeah my beta DH is a female NE, but on live it'll probably be a male BElf since the female Belf weapon models are super tiny and that annoys me.
Ug. Can these fuckers at Blizzard quit redefining how I get to play this fucking game.
I'm the complete opposite: the changes have actually renewed my interest in the game enough to maybe give it a try again.
I'm curious what's changed that makes you feel that way, I haven't really been keeping up.
I mean, basically every class/spec had pretty sweeping changes, but most of them were marked improvements so I don't know.
I only messed with it for about an hour. But my play style lost crowd control and attacks that refresh focus. But did pick up a 30% heal.
Dave
Staff member
Lost a main attack from Bear Druid. Thrash is still there, but now there's a cooldown that makes it less than useful for CC. Yeah, it's harder to hurt me, but it's harder to get and keep aggro with larger groups.
And the sub rogue I have has changed as well. Haven't played him that much yet. I'll experiment later.
And the sub rogue I have has changed as well. Haven't played him that much yet. I'll experiment later.
Nice.
Dave
Staff member
So I finally got into a good raiding guild and tonight while I was at the show it fucking imploded! Apparently the GM was a guy who is having some personal issues in his life so he put someone else in charge and then stepped away for a bit, only playing on weekends. Turns out he borrowed 40K gold from the GB to buy a token because he didn't have the money to pay for a month. I can deal with that. He apparently talked about it to a co-GM before he did it and everything was good. Fast forward to tonight when all of this came to light with people bitching about the loan. The co-GM says he was drunk and doesn't remember the conversation although he does remember talking to the guy that night. This pissed off a bunch of people - those who believe the GM (who was no longer the GM) and those who believed the co-GM. So the guy that the GM raised to lead the guild (NOT the co-GM, a different guy) put the OLD GM back as co-GM and kicked the drunk co-GM. So a shitload of people quit because the co_GM got booted and a bunch of people quit because the old GM was put back.
Follow all that? Me, neither. The bad thing is that almost our entire raid team - and the backup team - went bye-bye and formed their own guild. With blackjack and hookers. So I come back in and I recognize a few names but not very many. But the guy who is leading the guild has been working with me one-on-one to help me learn my character better. So I feel a certain amount of loyalty to HIM. But now the guild is not raiding. And you know how much I hate PUGs. I was finally able to raid and instance and NOT join a PUG. It was awesome. So I don't want to quit on the GM, but I don't want to stay in a non-raiding guild.
Fucking guild drama.
Follow all that? Me, neither. The bad thing is that almost our entire raid team - and the backup team - went bye-bye and formed their own guild. With blackjack and hookers. So I come back in and I recognize a few names but not very many. But the guy who is leading the guild has been working with me one-on-one to help me learn my character better. So I feel a certain amount of loyalty to HIM. But now the guild is not raiding. And you know how much I hate PUGs. I was finally able to raid and instance and NOT join a PUG. It was awesome. So I don't want to quit on the GM, but I don't want to stay in a non-raiding guild.
Fucking guild drama.
Panda attack is still a thing?
Little fact for other altoholics like me.
The Invasion event isn't just for higher level players, anyone from level 10 up can do it. It uses the new scaling tech they developed that basically scales all the enemy abilities and your abilities to match your level. Each time you do an invasion on a character under level 100, you get experience for each phase. After testing it out myself in my heirlooms on a level 85, doing all four phases, I was getting half (or more!) a level doing one 10 minute invasion.
Right now you can only do two invasions every four hours per character, but as the event ramps up more invasions will unlock and appear, until most of the zones will have invasions happening. Since all the invasions are phased and it always throws you into the first phase, as long as you go to one of these invasion points within it's time period, you will always get all four phases of experience.
What is really funny? You can level this way doing nothing at all, since you get credit for a phase just for being in a zone at the time it completes. You can travel, just stand in the middle of the zone, and collect XP. I did this on accident once going to Westfall, as the first phase was just ending as it loaded me in. I got the full experience for the phase anyways, even though I did nothing at all while flying there. If you cycle alts, this is a very easy way to gain some levels with low investment, plus you get gear that scales with your level (though does not scale up when you level, it's a static scale like dungeon sack loot).
The Invasion event isn't just for higher level players, anyone from level 10 up can do it. It uses the new scaling tech they developed that basically scales all the enemy abilities and your abilities to match your level. Each time you do an invasion on a character under level 100, you get experience for each phase. After testing it out myself in my heirlooms on a level 85, doing all four phases, I was getting half (or more!) a level doing one 10 minute invasion.
Right now you can only do two invasions every four hours per character, but as the event ramps up more invasions will unlock and appear, until most of the zones will have invasions happening. Since all the invasions are phased and it always throws you into the first phase, as long as you go to one of these invasion points within it's time period, you will always get all four phases of experience.
What is really funny? You can level this way doing nothing at all, since you get credit for a phase just for being in a zone at the time it completes. You can travel, just stand in the middle of the zone, and collect XP. I did this on accident once going to Westfall, as the first phase was just ending as it loaded me in. I got the full experience for the phase anyways, even though I did nothing at all while flying there. If you cycle alts, this is a very easy way to gain some levels with low investment, plus you get gear that scales with your level (though does not scale up when you level, it's a static scale like dungeon sack loot).
Currently doing this right now!