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Shutting down doesn't stop Windows 10's auto-maintenance. It can turn the computer back on so long as it's plugged in, do all its sifting through your files and programs, change what it wants, and then shut down again.
 
I shut down my PC when I go to bed and when I'm not home. I don't see any reason to keep it on, it boots instantly so it's not like I have to wait.
 
Hey, I finally got a letter from the U.S. government!

It's not my green card, tho, it's the census. 40 minute survey under penalty of law. It's like they're squatting over my open wound and taking a shit.

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Hey, I finally got a letter from the U.S. government!
It's not my green card, tho, it's the census. 40 minute survey under penalty of law. It's like they're squatting over my open wound and taking a shit.
That US Gvt, always thinking up new ways to "randomly select" people.

--Patrick
 

GasBandit

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Oil light came on this morning. Checked oil when I got to work, dipstick said low.

Went to the oil change place at lunch, guy says "you sure? Oil light is off, dipstick says full."

IONO LOL :confused: change my oil anyway just to be safe.
 
Oil light came on this morning. Checked oil when I got to work, dipstick said low.

Went to the oil change place at lunch, guy says "you sure? Oil light is off, dipstick says full."

IONO LOL :confused: change my oil anyway just to be safe.
Check oil with engine off and cold.
Check transmission fluid with engine running and hot.
Eh, can't hurt to get an extra oil change.

--Patrick
 

GasBandit

Staff member
I'd only had about 1500 miles since my last one, but it'd also almost been a year, so I figured, eh, I'm here already.

Then I drove back to work, and tested the "toothpaste to defog headlights" thing, and color me surprised, it seems to have worked.
 
I'd only had about 1500 miles since my last one, but it'd also almost been a year, so I figured, eh, I'm here already.
Then I drove back to work, and tested the "toothpaste to defog headlights" thing, and color me surprised, it seems to have worked.
Even if you don't put the miles on it, you should still change it every 3-4 months or so. It will still break down/accumulate water/etc over time.
And if you don't want to use toothpaste, you can just as easily mix up your own with baking soda.

--Patrick
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Even if you don't put the miles on it, you should still change it every 3-4 months or so. It will still break down/accumulate water/etc over time.
And if you don't want to use toothpaste, you can just as easily mix up your own with baking soda.

--Patrick
From what I've read, the 3 month/3000 mile rule was mostly put out by the oil change companies. Advances in engineering (both in cars and oil) now have most places without a dog in the race saying every 5000-7000 and time isn't a factor.
 
Even if you don't put the miles on it, you should still change it every 3-4 months or so. It will still break down/accumulate water/etc over time.
And if you don't want to use toothpaste, you can just as easily mix up your own with baking soda.

--Patrick

Every three months?! What, is your father a car mechanic in need of work? I got my oil changed as often as the manufacturer deems it necessary to keep it in prime working condition...Which is every 30K kms (+-20K miles) or 2 years. My fuel consumption up after every oil change for a while, too, so if I were to change every 3 months I'd be running at a high consumption almost continuously.
 
From what I've read, the 3 month/3000 mile rule was mostly put out by the oil change companies. Advances in engineering (both in cars and oil) now have most places without a dog in the race saying every 5000-7000 and time isn't a factor.
My car has manufacturer recommended service every 5000 miles.

But the oil change is every 10,000--every other service. 'Course, it's the more expensive synthetic oil. Whenever the oil change people put the "3000 miles til next service" sticker inside my window, I always cackle and just peel it off and throw it away before leaving the lot
 
My car has manufacturer recommended service every 5000 miles.

But the oil change is every 10,000--every other service. 'Course, it's the more expensive synthetic oil. Whenever the oil change people put the "3000 miles til next service" sticker inside my window, I always cackle and just peel it off and throw it away before leaving the lot
How loudly do you cackle? Can we get an example?
 
From what I've read, the 3 month/3000 mile rule was mostly put out by the oil change companies.
This is correct, or at least correct enough to be worth believing.
Advances in engineering (both in cars and oil) now have most places without a dog in the race saying every 5000-7000 and time isn't a factor.
This is also mostly correct IF you don't fall into any of what your owners' manual describes as "extreme conditions." Lots of short trips, temperature extremes, heavy use, etc. Since you said you'd only put 1500 miles on it in a year, that suggests lots of short trips.
My car sticker says 3000, I tend to go every 5k, but I also drive 70-100 miles every day, meaning I never make it to the time interval before it's time to change.
I once put > 3000 miles on my car in one week, and I had had the oil changed just before my trip, so I made a point of going back to the same oil change place even though it was only 3k just so I could watch them scratch their heads with, "Well, Mr. Customer, it says here your last oil change was...hang on, that can't be right, let me check."
Every three months?! What, is your father a car mechanic in need of work? I got my oil changed as often as the manufacturer deems it necessary to keep it in prime working condition...Which is every 30K kms (+-20K miles) or 2 years. My fuel consumption up after every oil change for a while, too, so if I were to change every 3 months I'd be running at a high consumption almost continuously.
Is it a diesel? I'm talking about gasoline-powered vehicles. Even so, you should still be thinking about changing a diesel engine's oil by the 10k miles mark, unless there's some kind of miracle modern engine I don't know about.

--Patrick
 
I don't go by miles or time. I check my oil about once a week, and change it when it becomes dark and dirty and in need of being replaced.
 
Is it a diesel? I'm talking about gasoline-powered vehicles. Even so, you should still be thinking about changing a diesel engine's oil by the 10k miles mark, unless there's some kind of miracle modern engine I don't know about.

--Patrick
No, benzine (gasoline for you strange other-worlders). Maybe the higher octane we use in Europe plays a role? I dunno, just spitballing...But I do'nt know anyone who changes their oil every 5K km (which would be the rough equivalent to 3K miles). Even my father-in-law who has his own car pit and does do his own oil changes and has the oil lying around doesn't do it that often.
 
No, benzine (gasoline for you strange other-worlders). Maybe the higher octane we use in Europe plays a role? I dunno, just spitballing...But I do'nt know anyone who changes their oil every 5K km (which would be the rough equivalent to 3K miles). Even my father-in-law who has his own car pit and does do his own oil changes and has the oil lying around doesn't do it that often.
Don't you mean hexane?
Octane rating is just a measure of how resistant the gas is to pre-ignition ("knock") due to compression. Gasoline rated at 100 octane would perform the same as running an engine with a fuel that was 100% octane. High-compression engines or engines with turbo/superchargers need higher octane gas to run properly.

I change my oil every 5k miles, not 5k km.
 
No, BEEENZIIIIN (gasoline for you strange other-worlders). Maybe the higher octane we use in Europe plays a role? I dunno, just spitballing...But I do'nt know anyone who changes their oil every 5K km (which would be the rough equivalent to 3K miles). Even my father-in-law who has his own car pit and does do his own oil changes and has the oil lying around doesn't do it that often.
RTFY

 
If you want your engine to last past 200k miles you change your oil at least every 8k miles, though it's better at 5k. Even with synthetics and uber oils.

Most people, however, are fine with vehicles that cost more to maintain than they are worth at 150k miles, and if that's the case then there's no need to change the oil more frequently than 10-15k miles.

The parts most in need of lubrication - the pistons and crankshaft - are held to incredibly tight tolerances, and they do wear down faster with oil that is dirtier. But again, if you don't need your car to last, then you can treat it as a disposable and you'll still get 150k miles before it's not worth maintaining any longer. The engine will run hotter, the efficiency will drop, hoses and other parts of the engine will deteriorate slightly more quickly, etc. Clean oil makes a bigger difference than people give it credit for.
 
http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/stop-changing-your-oil.html
One GM car Edmunds drove went 13,000 miles before the monitoring system indicated the need for an oil change. We sent a sample of that oil to a lab for analysis. The results showed that the oil could have safely delivered at least another 2,000 miles of service.
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Chris Risdon, a product education specialist for Toyota agreed, adding that oil technology advances that permit fewer changes are a tool to protect the environment. "If you're doing it half as much, that's 5 quarts of oil times 1.7 million vehicles a year — that's a tremendous amount of waste oil that's not being circulated into the environment
Edmunds recommends following manufacturer specifications, which often are conservative about oil change intervals (taking into consideration the modern advances in oil technology). I tend to trust them, since, you know, they built their business on advising people about their cars. And they do experimentation on things like oil life, car longevity, and driving conditions.
 
Yep. That article says to follow the manufacturer instructions, which generally lie between 7.5k and 10k in newer vehicles, with few outliers at 15k, and many older vehicles recommending 5k.

So 8k is a pretty good generalization, and better than the 3k generalization the article is complaining about.
 
Yep. That article says to follow the manufacturer instructions, which generally lie between 7.5k and 10k in newer vehicles, with few outliers at 15k, and many older vehicles recommending 5k.

So 8k is a pretty good generalization, and better than the 3k generalization the article is complaining about.
I was mostly replying to the "it's better at 5k. Even with synthetics and uber oils." statement. Your post seems to imply that it's better to change oil at 5k even if the manufacturer says 10k (which is what my post said, that you were replying to). And that if you don't, you're fucking your car up. I disagree with that implication.
 
I can find other sources that say oil changes intervals are much longer in Europe than they are in the US...But no single source seems to agree on why, exactly. Oh well.
 
I can find other sources that say oil changes intervals are much longer in Europe than they are in the US...But no single source seems to agree on why, exactly. Oh well.
I must be European. Every once and I while I look up at the oil change sticker in my car and have an oh shit moment.

The guy we see for oil changes no longer reacts.[DOUBLEPOST=1472653276,1472653206][/DOUBLEPOST]omg!! My headaches are making me
So blurry that I had to edit that twice for auto corrects I couldn't see when typing. Boo.
 

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Yeah, the oil change interval is pretty much a scam. So are fancy oils for that matter. The bargain brand is sufficient. The additives make little difference. The one oil change you should not ignore, however, is the new car oil change at 300-500 miles.
 
...300 miles? I know the first one's important and shorter, but it's still at 5K (kilometers) here... 300 miles, that's, what, a week's worth of driving for me, and I'm not exactly a long distance driver. That's two days for some of us. The heck?
 
...300 miles? I know the first one's important and shorter, but it's still at 5K (kilometers) here... 300 miles, that's, what, a week's worth of driving for me, and I'm not exactly a long distance driver. That's two days for some of us. The heck?
That is to get rid of the initial metal shavings from such a low mileage car.
 
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