[Movies] The Upcoming Movies Trailer Thread

Null

Null

And of course that re-opens the question of casting Motoko Kusanagi herself.

My picks? Maggie Q (Nikita, Designated Survivor, Stalker, Mission Impossible III); Rinko Kikuchi (Pacific Rim, 47 Ronin); Karen Fukuhara (Katana in Suicide Squad); Tamiko Brownlee (stuntwoman from The Revenant, Transformers 4, Insurgent, John Carter, etc)

 
GasBandit

GasBandit

Staff member
Null said:
And of course that re-opens the question of casting Motoko Kusanagi herself.

My picks? Maggie Q (Nikita, Designated Survivor, Stalker, Mission Impossible III); Rinko Kikuchi (Pacific Rim, 47 Ronin); Karen Fukuhara (Katana in Suicide Squad); Tamiko Brownlee (stuntwoman from The Revenant, Transformers 4, Insurgent, John Carter, etc)

Click to expand...
None of them have the "star power" of Scarlett Johansson, though. There are people who, completely unfamiliar with the source material, will go see it because it is a Scarlett Johansson movie. None of those other actresses has that kind of draw.
 
MindDetective

MindDetective

Null said:
A major plot element of Ghost in the Shell, particularly Stand Alone Complex, is that Japan is one of the few remaining nation-states after a devastating war, and is facing an influx of millions of refugees from across the world. As a result, common issues are a) official suspicion of refugees for any terrorist incidents, b) Japan struggling with its national identity, and c) the contrast between national identity in a changing nation, and personal identity when one's consciousness can be transferred to prosthetic bodies, as well as d) how self-aware Artificial Intelligence fits into the picture.

So it's kind of important, yeah.
Click to expand...
Will that be the case for the movie or is it going to be transplanted to the U.S.?
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

Staff member
I will, say, however, that their MAKEUP department has not done Motoko's HAIR justice, for sure.



Go borrow Ramona Flowers' hairdressers, they did a better job.
 
Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Null said:
Sort of like how there was an entire section of Cloud Atlas set in Korea and almost all of the named roles were non-Asian actors. Yeah, yeah, reincarnation, blah blah fuck you.
Click to expand...

I really don't think that's a fair comparison, especially when it also had asian actors playing white parts. Same actors playing different parts in different times was the whole theme.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

MindDetective said:
Will that be the case for the movie or is it going to be transplanted to the U.S.?
Click to expand...
From the teaser/mess, it looks like it's still in Japan, which is important. The original anime, the only incarnation of it that I've seen, is strongly rooted in Japanese perspective. It doesn't work as an American story. Same for Akira, which is why the plans for that got so much flack.

For an anime that is being Americanized, Death Note doesn't have the same problem. There's nothing inherently Japanese except the death gods, which could be any death-related supernatural creature. But the story itself is pretty culturally neutral.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

Staff member
Zero Esc said:
From the teaser/mess, it looks like it's still in Japan, which is important. The original anime, the only incarnation of it that I've seen, is strongly rooted in Japanese perspective. It doesn't work as an American story. Same for Akira, which is why the plans for that got so much flack.
Click to expand...
You should watch GITS:SAC - I found it a lot more enjoyable than the original anime movie.
 
Null

Null

Zero Esc said:
From the teaser/mess, it looks like it's still in Japan, which is important. The original anime, the only incarnation of it that I've seen, is strongly rooted in Japanese perspective. It doesn't work as an American story. Same for Akira, which is why the plans for that got so much flack.

For an anime that is being Americanized, Death Note doesn't have the same problem. There's nothing inherently Japanese except the death gods, which could be any death-related supernatural creature. But the story itself is pretty culturally neutral.
Click to expand...
For that matter, sometimes it takes me a moment that Bleach is supposed to be rooted in Japan.
 
Eriol

Eriol

First of all, see my avatar. I'm a GITS fan.

Speaking about the CONTENT (such as it is) in the trailer, what's your thoughts? The Geisha definitely provides a big hint that they're (possibly) doing the same storyline as the start of the SAC series. Which isn't a bad storyline at all. A murder-mystery with national implications, and it's a "closed" storyline. Works for me quite frankly.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

Staff member
Eriol said:
First of all, see my avatar. I'm a GITS fan.

Speaking about the CONTENT (such as it is) in the trailer, what's your thoughts? The Geisha definitely provides a big hint that they're (possibly) doing the same storyline as the start of the SAC series. Which isn't a bad storyline at all. A murder-mystery with national implications, and it's a "closed" storyline. Works for me quite frankly.
Click to expand...
That's true, I'd not made the connection... the Laughing Man arc begins with the geisha bit. I kinda hope they change the end, though... it was kind of anticlimactic to me, and I don't know if movie patrons would put up with 10 straight minutes of two people sitting in a library, talking philosophy.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

Staff member
Ravenpoe said:
Are the Wachowskis making this?
Click to expand...
At least the Matrix dumbed it down. I had to watch the final episode of the Laughing Man arc 3 times before I could follow the conversation. Even one of the characters in the scene straight up said "I'm not hooked up to external memory, so I haven't the faintest idea what you two were just talking about."

The scene in question, for those who aren't afraid of spoilers:

Edit: better quality version of the scene

 
Last edited:
fade

fade

Staff member
I do hope just to mess with audiences that they leave in the conversation with Batou where she leaves it open as to whether her original meat body was male or female.
 
Eriol

Eriol

GasBandit said:
That's true, I'd not made the connection... the Laughing Man arc begins with the geisha bit. I kinda hope they change the end, though... it was kind of anticlimactic to me, and I don't know if movie patrons would put up with 10 straight minutes of two people sitting in a library, talking philosophy.
Click to expand...
Oh I wasn't meaning the whole Laughing Man arc, I meant JUST THAT EPISODE with the murder and such. Throw in more "show not tell" and it could be movie-length, easily IMO.

My God, compressing a whole season of an anime into a single movie? That'd be harsh. I'd rather just a live-action remake of the first movie anime rather than the kind of compression you're implying Gas.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

Staff member
Eriol said:
Oh I wasn't meaning the whole Laughing Man arc, I meant JUST THAT EPISODE with the murder and such. Throw in more "show not tell" and it could be movie-length, easily IMO.

My God, compressing a whole season of an anime into a single movie? That'd be harsh. I'd rather just a live-action remake of the first movie anime rather than the kind of compression you're implying Gas.
Click to expand...
Hrm, I guess that's a fair point, though there was quite a bit of filler in GITS:SAC that could have been trimmed out. But even then it'd be a real trick to whittle it down to 90-120 mins.
 
AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Eriol said:
My God, compressing a whole season of an anime into a single movie? That'd be harsh. I'd rather just a live-action remake of the first movie anime rather than the kind of compression you're implying Gas.
Click to expand...
We say this with the Avatar: The Last Airbender movie; they cut out like 90% of the season and thus the movie made no sense.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

Staff member
I just went back and skimmed through the first few episodes, and the Geisha bit was in the very first episode, which was filler (or as they say, "Stand Alone") and not part of the overall Laughing Man plot, which didn't actually start until episode 4.

So there's that.
 
Yoshimickster

Yoshimickster

Yes, Bad Santa 2. There wasn't anything ELSE called Bad Santa 2, made during the worst time period for comedies where literally EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THEM-got a direct to DVD sequel, usually with none of the original cast.
 
Last edited:
PatrThom

PatrThom

Funny, we were talking about Billy Bob Thornton just a couple days ago.
One of Kati's friends had no idea who he was.
Trying for commonality, I explained he was the voice of Jigo from Mononoke Hime. Kati mentioned his past wife. Still nothing.

--Patrick
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

PatrThom said:
Funny, we were talking about Billy Bob Thornton just a couple days ago.
One of Kati's friends had no idea who he was.
Trying for commonality, I explained he was the voice of Jigo from Mononoke Hime. Kati mentioned his past wife. Still nothing.

--Patrick
Click to expand...
This friend didn't recognize him as the dub voice for a minor character in a not well known foreign animated film? How can that be? :p
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

PatrThom said:
Obviously he needs to adjust his priorities.
Jigo's not a minor character, btw.

--Patrick
Click to expand...
He's a crucial character, but he's not a main in the sense of Ashitaka, Eboshi, or San. Though you're probably right; I feel like there's a term my brain is forgetting today that's between main and minor. A minor character would be more like Toki or Okkoto.
 
Celt Z

Celt Z

It's still kind of obscure, especially if you're not good at picking out voices. You couldn't have gone with Armageddon or Monster's Ball (if she's more Oscar-inclined)?
 
Eriol

Eriol

Zero Esc said:
He's a crucial character, but he's not a main in the sense of Ashitaka, Eboshi, or San. Though you're probably right; I feel like there's a term my brain is forgetting today that's between main and minor. A minor character would be more like Toki or Okkoto.
Click to expand...
I think the term you're looking for is "supporting character." Like "Best Supporting Actor/Actress" Oscar, etc. They're crucial to the plot, but they're not one of the mains. Lt. Dan in Forrest Gump would be a good example IMO.
 
Eriol

Eriol

Zero Esc said:
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Click to expand...
Just thought of it, a better example of a supporting character would be the priest from the 5th Element. Plot-critical, but not one of the mains. Leeloo and Dallas are the mains. Ruby Rod would be "comic relief" or some other more disparaging terms, as he's not plot-critical (I'm not sure he EVER does something worthwhile for the plot).

The reason I'm not happy with Lt. Dan is that he's from a movie in that there is only one main character. That makes everybody else supporting by definition. I think a better example is what I stated in this post, because there's more than one main. It's too easy to fall into the trap of only ever seeing one main character even if there is more than one. I remember (wrongly) thinking for quite a slice of my youth that by definition there is only one protagonist. For some (many) works there is only one, but in a huge body of work, there is more than one main, so I wanted to be more explicit.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top