I guess I need to revisit the other ones.
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Terminator Sega Genesys
Uh, ok man this was something. The first like 30 minutes are kinda dope. It recaps the end of the machine war, finally defeating skynet and the raid on the time machine facility that sends back the original T-800 and Kyle Reese. After that it gets kinda weird since we've got like...3ish time paradoxes going on at once? I'm wondering if the Sarah Connor chronicles show might have played a part? Like maybe I should have watched that to know more?
So as far as I can figure it works like this:
So like...lots of questions and even more time travel shenanigans and inconsistencies mixed in with action sequences that kind of fail or impress anyway. 6/10 ?
Uh, ok man this was something. The first like 30 minutes are kinda dope. It recaps the end of the machine war, finally defeating skynet and the raid on the time machine facility that sends back the original T-800 and Kyle Reese. After that it gets kinda weird since we've got like...3ish time paradoxes going on at once? I'm wondering if the Sarah Connor chronicles show might have played a part? Like maybe I should have watched that to know more?
So as far as I can figure it works like this:
1) The original movie happens and it's our original paradox since Kyle Reese is John Connor's father.
2) this gets expanded on in T2 where it turns out Cyberdyne found the remains of the T-800 and that lead to skynet down the road. They kill the main guy and at the end of that movie they say they stopped judgement day
3) T3 happens and lol judgement day whoops. Only it happens like 7 years after it was supposed to.
4) Salvation happens and that's fine. This is the new John Connor who was in T2 and T3.
5) Now we're at the start of Genisys which is the end of the machine war, but the one from the alternative timeline that we've been following since at least T2. But the machines are aware of the new timeline as well which is why they out the last bit of skynet into the new super deluxe Terminator that infected John Connor.
Now this is just speculation on my part. Skynet-Borg-Queen sends John Connor back to 2014 to build Skynet as an operating system for phones and tablets. They also have him develop the groundwork for T-1000s and the time machine. Borg-Queen-Skynet I guess also sends a T-1000 back to the 1970s to kill Sarah Connor as a child because that never gets old. The resistance must show up and I guess kill Queen-Net and reprogram a T-800 to go help. Im going to just say this is original T2 Terminator. New2 saves Sarah and raises her to be badass. I guess that T-1000 just...chilled for like 10 years until it knew to start looking for Kyle Reese who had just shown up in 1984?
So like...yeah it's pretty messy. There's still plenty of questions that never really get answered.
1) Judgement day originally was in 1997. Thanks to the events of T2 it got pushed back to 2004. In this movie it's pushed back again to 2017 but...I'm really not sure why.
2) I'm only guessing as to who actually sent back the good T-800 to 1973 as they never actually say.
3) Kyle and Sarah jump from 1984 to 2017 without ever having giving birth to John Connor. So JC for sure does not exist in the future at this point. Like..the machines have essentially won? Like JC will be born 30+ years after he was supposed to be born and under completely different circumstances. It's unlikely he'd become the same person he was when he defeated skynet.
2) this gets expanded on in T2 where it turns out Cyberdyne found the remains of the T-800 and that lead to skynet down the road. They kill the main guy and at the end of that movie they say they stopped judgement day
3) T3 happens and lol judgement day whoops. Only it happens like 7 years after it was supposed to.
4) Salvation happens and that's fine. This is the new John Connor who was in T2 and T3.
5) Now we're at the start of Genisys which is the end of the machine war, but the one from the alternative timeline that we've been following since at least T2. But the machines are aware of the new timeline as well which is why they out the last bit of skynet into the new super deluxe Terminator that infected John Connor.
Now this is just speculation on my part. Skynet-Borg-Queen sends John Connor back to 2014 to build Skynet as an operating system for phones and tablets. They also have him develop the groundwork for T-1000s and the time machine. Borg-Queen-Skynet I guess also sends a T-1000 back to the 1970s to kill Sarah Connor as a child because that never gets old. The resistance must show up and I guess kill Queen-Net and reprogram a T-800 to go help. Im going to just say this is original T2 Terminator. New2 saves Sarah and raises her to be badass. I guess that T-1000 just...chilled for like 10 years until it knew to start looking for Kyle Reese who had just shown up in 1984?
So like...yeah it's pretty messy. There's still plenty of questions that never really get answered.
1) Judgement day originally was in 1997. Thanks to the events of T2 it got pushed back to 2004. In this movie it's pushed back again to 2017 but...I'm really not sure why.
2) I'm only guessing as to who actually sent back the good T-800 to 1973 as they never actually say.
3) Kyle and Sarah jump from 1984 to 2017 without ever having giving birth to John Connor. So JC for sure does not exist in the future at this point. Like..the machines have essentially won? Like JC will be born 30+ years after he was supposed to be born and under completely different circumstances. It's unlikely he'd become the same person he was when he defeated skynet.
So like...lots of questions and even more time travel shenanigans and inconsistencies mixed in with action sequences that kind of fail or impress anyway. 6/10 ?
I don't hate Sam Worthington that much really. I get what you're saying in that he's not exactly impressive but I thought he did ok in Salvation. I kinda like salvation anyway. I liked seeing the robot wars, and that there wasn't time travel. Some of the stuff at the end got weird when skynet apparently was aware that it had sent terminators back in time to kill John Connor...even though it hadn't invented time travel yet? Like it was aware it was in an altered timeline already? Whatever.
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Uh huh. Nice try, Skynet. I'm not helping you sort this one out.
Surprised you didn't just come in here and post, "What's up my fellow humans? Anybody seen John Connor around lately?"
Haven't seen Genisys yet, but this has long been my headcanon for the Terminator timeline(s).
Original Timeline - Sarah Connor hooks up with Joe Hobo, gets pregnant & he skips town to avoid the responsibility of a kid. Judgement Day happens, John steps up to the plate kicks Skynet's ass & in desperation it sends a Terminator back in time to kill his mother.
T1 - Kyle gets sent back in time to save Sarah. They hook up, he dies & the Terminator is destroyed. Sarah never meets Joe Hobo, never gets pregnant with Original!John, mistakes her son with Kyle for him. Cyberdyne gets the wreckage of the Terminator, uses what they learn to build a more advanced version of Skynet than they did in the original timeline. Judgement Day happens, New!John steps up to the plate, kicks Skynet's ass, which being more advanced than the original Skynet can build better Terminators (T-1000). The events of T1 also allowed Skynet to identify John's whereabouts as a child before Judgement Day, allowing it to send the T-1000 back in time to kill him.
T2 - The T-800, John & Sarah destroy the remains of the Terminator from the previous film, the T-1000 & then the T-800 allows himself to be destroyed. Unfortunately they never destroyed the off-site backups Cyberdyne made of everything they'd learned from the remains of the Terminator. Skynet is still created (more advanced than the original version because of what they'd learned from the remains, but less advanced than the previous timelines model because of the damage done to the company in this film). Judgement Day happens (again), New!John still steps up to the plate. Skynet is not advanced enough to create a fully liquid metal Terminator, but can create one with a liquid metal covering over a standard Terminator endoskeleton. It sends the T-X back in time.
T3 - The T-X sets out to kill John & other members of the future human resistance. The events of this fim happen, changing the timeline further.
Salvation - Follows on from the events of T3.
At some point Skynet figures out that the timeline keeps changing and sends information back into the past for itself explaining everything it knows about itself / John Connor / the changing timelines. The most likely point for this to happen is T3, with the T-X uploading that information to the Internet offscreen somewhere Skynet will find it before it starts Judgement Day.
This theory would also fill an apparent plot-hole (going by the trailers for Genisys) of Skynet knowing where to find a young Sarah, even though in T1, all it knew was that she was living in LA in the early 80's because of the loss of so much information during Judgement Day - the T-X hunted that information down before starting to kill people in T3 & added it to the upload it left for the next iteration of Skynet!
T1 - Kyle gets sent back in time to save Sarah. They hook up, he dies & the Terminator is destroyed. Sarah never meets Joe Hobo, never gets pregnant with Original!John, mistakes her son with Kyle for him. Cyberdyne gets the wreckage of the Terminator, uses what they learn to build a more advanced version of Skynet than they did in the original timeline. Judgement Day happens, New!John steps up to the plate, kicks Skynet's ass, which being more advanced than the original Skynet can build better Terminators (T-1000). The events of T1 also allowed Skynet to identify John's whereabouts as a child before Judgement Day, allowing it to send the T-1000 back in time to kill him.
T2 - The T-800, John & Sarah destroy the remains of the Terminator from the previous film, the T-1000 & then the T-800 allows himself to be destroyed. Unfortunately they never destroyed the off-site backups Cyberdyne made of everything they'd learned from the remains of the Terminator. Skynet is still created (more advanced than the original version because of what they'd learned from the remains, but less advanced than the previous timelines model because of the damage done to the company in this film). Judgement Day happens (again), New!John still steps up to the plate. Skynet is not advanced enough to create a fully liquid metal Terminator, but can create one with a liquid metal covering over a standard Terminator endoskeleton. It sends the T-X back in time.
T3 - The T-X sets out to kill John & other members of the future human resistance. The events of this fim happen, changing the timeline further.
Salvation - Follows on from the events of T3.
At some point Skynet figures out that the timeline keeps changing and sends information back into the past for itself explaining everything it knows about itself / John Connor / the changing timelines. The most likely point for this to happen is T3, with the T-X uploading that information to the Internet offscreen somewhere Skynet will find it before it starts Judgement Day.
This theory would also fill an apparent plot-hole (going by the trailers for Genisys) of Skynet knowing where to find a young Sarah, even though in T1, all it knew was that she was living in LA in the early 80's because of the loss of so much information during Judgement Day - the T-X hunted that information down before starting to kill people in T3 & added it to the upload it left for the next iteration of Skynet!
I actually like that. It also kind of explains how the T-X felt like a bit of a downgrade from the T-1000
Escape from new York
Man, I never realized just how much of nothing happens in this movie. Snake doesn't show up until 20 minutes in. It's probably another 20 until he even has the first clue where the president is. By the time we meet the full cast of characters we're halfway through the movie.
I'll give it some credit for being just incredibly bleak. There's a review of this by Red Letter Media where they talk about a certain scene where Snake meets this woman who is the first woman to have a speaking role in the film. She recognizes Snake (almost everyone does which is weird) and tries to seduce him into taking her with him off the island. In any other movie this would be the introduction of the female love interest. In this movie though she gets presumably killed by fuckin' mole people. It's just bonkers. Plus the ending just really drives home how none of it mattered.
It's not terrible but it's the kind of movie you only watch when you are showing someone new or haven't seen it in so long you don't quite remember it. 6/10. It actually lost points for not developing "Romeo" the crazy Puk lookin' dude who hissed at everyone. I wanted a scene to show why he seemed to be The Duke's top man.
Man, I never realized just how much of nothing happens in this movie. Snake doesn't show up until 20 minutes in. It's probably another 20 until he even has the first clue where the president is. By the time we meet the full cast of characters we're halfway through the movie.
I'll give it some credit for being just incredibly bleak. There's a review of this by Red Letter Media where they talk about a certain scene where Snake meets this woman who is the first woman to have a speaking role in the film. She recognizes Snake (almost everyone does which is weird) and tries to seduce him into taking her with him off the island. In any other movie this would be the introduction of the female love interest. In this movie though she gets presumably killed by fuckin' mole people. It's just bonkers. Plus the ending just really drives home how none of it mattered.
It's not terrible but it's the kind of movie you only watch when you are showing someone new or haven't seen it in so long you don't quite remember it. 6/10. It actually lost points for not developing "Romeo" the crazy Puk lookin' dude who hissed at everyone. I wanted a scene to show why he seemed to be The Duke's top man.
Ha! I watched it yesterday, since my wife had never heard of it. I kind of prefer the glacial pace it has to that of action movies lately.
Wife agrees that Romero needed more scenes, that's the first thing she said once the movie was over.
I find I rather prefer the less action-packed action movies of yore.
I blame the Matrix for a lot of what I dislike about recent action movies - from the slow motion to the "look how calm and cool I am as I do this crazy shit!" pose - but maybe this I can blame on Die Hard.
The Matrix may have started it, but never have I rolled my eyes as much at slo-mo in a movie as watching Toby McGuire dodge fidget spinners in the first Spider-Man movie.
--Patrick
Well, yeah. My complaint very much relies on the lack of eyerolling caused by the Matrix.
Although my eyes literally rolled right out of their sockets listening to the philosophical shitfuckery of the Matrix Reloaded. Ugh, I absolutely hated that movie - it should've been on my list of movies I walked out on.
There are only 2 movies on that list: The Passion of the Christ, which I left when I figured it was turning into torture porn; and 2012, which I left in the midst of the climax because I had to catch a train.
Cars 3
I haven't read a single review for this movie or seen anything outside of the (oft-played) commercials, because with Li'l Z, there was no doubt we were seeing this opening day, first screening, regardless. That being said, I thought it was great. I think it's the first thing in the Cars/Planes franchise worthy of being the successor to the original Cars, and god knows we've watched them all. Many, many times. Pixar remembered what people loved about the original. They hit you "right in the feels" from the get-go, and the racing/action scenes are incredible. It's easy to forget it's all created from nothing. I thought they took it in a great and unexpected direction. Most important of all, Li'l Z loved it. He walked out of the theater completely pumped and is engrossed in playing with his Cars as I type this. I'm glad the lackluster Cars 2 didn't make them give up the series. This was a good story, and a better way to remember Lightning McQueen.
...Of course, this means Mr. McQueen will be continuing to own my household for years to come.
I haven't read a single review for this movie or seen anything outside of the (oft-played) commercials, because with Li'l Z, there was no doubt we were seeing this opening day, first screening, regardless. That being said, I thought it was great. I think it's the first thing in the Cars/Planes franchise worthy of being the successor to the original Cars, and god knows we've watched them all. Many, many times. Pixar remembered what people loved about the original. They hit you "right in the feels" from the get-go, and the racing/action scenes are incredible. It's easy to forget it's all created from nothing. I thought they took it in a great and unexpected direction. Most important of all, Li'l Z loved it. He walked out of the theater completely pumped and is engrossed in playing with his Cars as I type this. I'm glad the lackluster Cars 2 didn't make them give up the series. This was a good story, and a better way to remember Lightning McQueen.
...Of course, this means Mr. McQueen will be continuing to own my household for years to come.
My girls weren't born before the Cars revolution, but the oldest (who is 3) has since seen Cars 1 and loves it. I think it's the only movie she has seen. My nephew who is 13 grew up with Cars and loved that movie fiercely. He even had a Cars tv. He's too old for the toys now and my girls have been showered with every version of Lightning McQueen.
There's a huge consignment sale in NC and we use it as an opportunity to get the girls toys that aren't as popular anymore. We were intending on getting some more Cars stuff this year, but Cars 3 is going to ruin that. The Cars table will likely be bare by the time we get in to shop.
Looking forward to the movie. It might be our first foray into taking our girls to the theater. There's a kid-friendly theater in town so don't worry all you poopy-pants. We won't bother you in you Alamo drafthouses.
There's a huge consignment sale in NC and we use it as an opportunity to get the girls toys that aren't as popular anymore. We were intending on getting some more Cars stuff this year, but Cars 3 is going to ruin that. The Cars table will likely be bare by the time we get in to shop.
Looking forward to the movie. It might be our first foray into taking our girls to the theater. There's a kid-friendly theater in town so don't worry all you poopy-pants. We won't bother you in you Alamo drafthouses.
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RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE PEOPLE WITH SMALL CHILDREN AREN'T ALLOWED TO GO OUT IN PUBLIC
Li'l Z is only 4, but through other kids he discovered Cars around 18 months old and it was instant, unwavering love. "Lightning" was one of the first words he ever said clearly (and shocked the hell out of us). We took him to the theater for the first time this February in anticipation for Cars 3. If I've learned anything, you should still be able to find Lightnings in consignment (god knows my dad has found a million Cars items for Li'l Z that way).
I'd go to an early morning show if you can. They tend to be less crowded, cheaper, and if today was any indication, swarming with little Lightning fans like your girls.
Better not watch this video, then....Of course, this means Mr. McQueen will be continuing to own my household for years to come.
Nor click on this product page.
--Patrick
Oh, we already know about him. But the $300 price tag prevents him from becoming a birthday present. Even though he is very, very cool.
I suppose if you can drop $300 on a toy for
--Patrick
Oh Hello on Broadway
DAMN funny show, good deconstruction on plays as well as the play community itself.
DAMN funny show, good deconstruction on plays as well as the play community itself.
Watched two movies this weekend.
Silence: Not bad, though I think there were some problems with it. The movie's main idea (that it's ok to commit apostasy if you're saving other people from suffering) was already clearly expressed one-third into the film, and then the rest was basically padding to reiterate this message. For example, early on in the film, Andrew Garfield's character instructs the Japanese villagers to do whatever the Inquisitor wants them to do in order to save all the villagers. So, clearly he already can accept the idea that it's selfish to insist on keeping to your own faith when apostasy would help save other people. It's Adam Driver's character who defiantly refuses to betray his faith, which costs him dearly in the end. I think it would've been interesting if the roles were reversed early on, where Garfield would be the one who says it's not ok to commit apostasy no matter what, but eventually his character develops until he realizes compassion is more important than dogma. Anyway, apart from that thematic issue, the rest of the movie's quite good. The cast are great, the vistas are spectacular (filmed in Taiwan, woo!), and the characters are interesting.
Also, Kichijiro repeatedly popping up in an attempt to confess is (probably) unintentionally hilarious.
Moana: Quite liked it. The animation was beautiful, the storyline was pleasantly heartwarming, and the humor hit all the right spots. The songs were good, maybe not as memorable as Frozen's and Tangled's, but they still hit those emotional highs for me. There were some parts that dragged a bit, for example I thought the part with the giant crab dude was a bit dull. Which was not helped by what I thought was a relatively weak villain song. Though the bioluminescent animation was great, it was like they were on Pandora. Frozen's probably still my favorite recent Disney animated feature, but this one's up there.
Silence: Not bad, though I think there were some problems with it. The movie's main idea (that it's ok to commit apostasy if you're saving other people from suffering) was already clearly expressed one-third into the film, and then the rest was basically padding to reiterate this message. For example, early on in the film, Andrew Garfield's character instructs the Japanese villagers to do whatever the Inquisitor wants them to do in order to save all the villagers. So, clearly he already can accept the idea that it's selfish to insist on keeping to your own faith when apostasy would help save other people. It's Adam Driver's character who defiantly refuses to betray his faith, which costs him dearly in the end. I think it would've been interesting if the roles were reversed early on, where Garfield would be the one who says it's not ok to commit apostasy no matter what, but eventually his character develops until he realizes compassion is more important than dogma. Anyway, apart from that thematic issue, the rest of the movie's quite good. The cast are great, the vistas are spectacular (filmed in Taiwan, woo!), and the characters are interesting.
Also, Kichijiro repeatedly popping up in an attempt to confess is (probably) unintentionally hilarious.
Moana: Quite liked it. The animation was beautiful, the storyline was pleasantly heartwarming, and the humor hit all the right spots. The songs were good, maybe not as memorable as Frozen's and Tangled's, but they still hit those emotional highs for me. There were some parts that dragged a bit, for example I thought the part with the giant crab dude was a bit dull. Which was not helped by what I thought was a relatively weak villain song. Though the bioluminescent animation was great, it was like they were on Pandora. Frozen's probably still my favorite recent Disney animated feature, but this one's up there.
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What I liked about it was that there WAS no real villain song. That was more of a minor foe than an actual villain. But I liked it since it was Jemaine Clement and I love pretty much everything he does.
Split.
Disappointing. It was quite a role for McAvoy though. It worked better as a psychological thriller, but ended so lamely.
Disappointing. It was quite a role for McAvoy though. It worked better as a psychological thriller, but ended so lamely.
We find ourselves belting out "Shiny" more often than we probably should in the Z household. I love that Tometoa was inspired by David Bowie. I could hear it immediately. Jermaine did a great job, but part of me wished they could have gotten Bowie, which probably would have been his last film. Odds are he either too sick or too expensive.
I found Shiny lackluster on first viewing as well, but since that time it's really grown on me, and I think it's a great song.
Yeah, this was a movie about restoration, and the challenges associated with trying to heal. It wasn't protagonist vs villain, or even protagonist vs environment, it was protagonist overcoming challenges and self in order to fix something.
Just watched It Comes At Night.
Bleak and depressing. I was apparently the only person in the movie theater who liked it. Does the whole humanity is the real monster thing better than every God damned second of the Walking Dead in a 100 minute movie.
Probably the best "post-apocalypse" movie I've ever seen.
Bleak and depressing. I was apparently the only person in the movie theater who liked it. Does the whole humanity is the real monster thing better than every God damned second of the Walking Dead in a 100 minute movie.
Probably the best "post-apocalypse" movie I've ever seen.
That's gonna be a tough title to pull away from The Road but I'll give it a chance.