You should look closer at the wiki article. Hint: the white parts are part f the flags there.It wasn't one flag among many, though. The battle flag (and, consequently, any other flag with it as a device) was the Confederacy's main symbol from what I've read (your earlier Wikipedia link did not dispel this notion).
So, according to poles on reddit, that picture is actually from a local fascist group... guess they just prefer local instead of german nazism... which kind of makes sense, since it is supposed to be about your nations people being better then others.[DOUBLEPOST=1502912725,1502912579][/DOUBLEPOST]Turns out it was from last november.
That stormer website that was shut down because they are nazi fuckwits? Yeah, they are back...using an ru suffix.
You read that right. They were kicked off of GoDaddy so they now have a RUSSIAN suffix website.
Can you link me that? I'd like to read about it.So, according to poles on reddit, that picture is actually from a local fascist group... guess they just prefer local instead of german nazism... which kind of makes sense, since it is supposed to be about your nations people being better then others.[DOUBLEPOST=1502912725,1502912579][/DOUBLEPOST]
You should look closer at my post and notice the "any other flag with it as a device". Hint: my point remains the same.You should look closer at the wiki article. Hint: the white parts are part f the flags there.
The ones used now is only an element in most of those flags.
It would be like in the future someone would use just the stars part of the star spangled banner as a symbol for "ol'timey USA".
Oh, you mean the one that's a complete opposite situation, where they made one flag out of many, to try and force unity, instead of taking an element of a flag (that was used as a battle standard at the time) and applying it to the whole Confederacy?Very related: have you heard of the Union Jack?
I close the thread, and my history is full of HFnow, but just look for the picture on reddit, plenty of comments.Can you link me that? I'd like to read about it.
he's referring to its use in the flags of Australia, New Zealand, a few Canadian provinces, and numerous others.Oh, you mean the one that's a complete opposite situation . . .
No, I mean as in it's use as a device in other flags, which is a direct parallel to the use of the Confederate device in other flags. There's a wealth of other examples in heraldry and vexillology, but I would have thought this one was most commonly known.Oh, you mean the one that's a complete opposite situation, where they made one flag out of many, to try and force unity, instead of taking an element of a flag (that was used as a battle standard at the time) and applying it to the whole Confederacy?
I mean look:
While the confederate flag would be the other way around.
Almost all of the additions of the confederate flag to the state flags in the Deep South were in response to the Civil Rights Era. A legislated "go fuck yourself" to the likes of the NAACP.No, I mean as in it's use as a device in other flags, which is a direct parallel to the use of the Confederate device in other flags. There's a wealth of other examples in heraldry and vexillology, but I would have thought this one was most commonly known.
That's not what we're referencing (but rather uses of the Confederate flag as a device in other C.S.A. flags contemporary to it), but good to know and another good example.Almost all of the additions of the confederate flag to the state flags in the Deep South were in response to the Civil Rights Era. A legislated "go fuck yourself" to the likes of the NAACP.
Oh, ok.No, I mean as in it's use as a device in other flags, which is a direct parallel to the use of the Confederate device in other flags. There's a wealth of other examples in heraldry and vexillology, but I would have thought this one was most commonly known.
I'll point again to the context of why the battle flag appears as a device in all those C.S.A. flags. It was a very popular flag (at the time) on its own, and thus a valid symbol to use as short-hand. If it was hidden, transformed, or lumped up (like, say, Saint George's Cross in the Union Jack and all the derived flags, or a quarter of Spain's coat of arms) then I'd understand not seeing it as representative of the whole, but that's not the case here.Oh, ok.
But that's still the complete opposite, since, you know, they where using an existing flag to make new ones, to show subservience, when the current Confederate flag uses an element from the actual ones used by the Confederacy as the whole flag.
Of equal importance, can the Public fire private employers?This probably is of interest:
Eugene Volokh: Can private employers fire employees for going to a white supremacist rally?
sourceThe article said:[The business owner], has seen a barrage of message shares on Facebook, in which he is called a racist, a Nazi and/or a white supremacist. Those began at about 6 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 15, and involve two images that he had posted on his personal Facebook account in 2011, he said. One shows him throwing up a Nazi salute and another shows him with a Nazi swastika finger-painted on his forehead. He said the first was done in humor and the second was Photoshopped, but also done in humor. [...] He said the pictures were taken six years ago during a tailgate party before a University of Notre Dame football game in South Bend, Ind. He said he has a wry sense of humor and is sometimes not politically correct.
Ok, so looking around some more, it seems the flag design actually lost to the original CSA one, and, months later, then was adopted as a battle flag by Lee, which is why it was incorporated in the 2nd flag.I'll point again to the context of why the battle flag appears as a device in all those C.S.A. flags. It was a very popular flag (at the time) on its own, and thus a valid symbol to use as short-hand.
I hate how much money this guy will make.
Haha, remember the good ole days when they screamed that Obama was going to take all our guns and establish himself for a third term through "false flag" operations like Sandy Hook until he was literally ruling us? Ah the memories.... the wonderful memories...Cable channel that supports fascism proposes giving up rights, details at 10:00.
A lot of good points, but I don't think he realizes how at least one of his points cuts both ways:
Replace "heterosexual" with "homosexual" and "cheeseburger" with "veggie burger" and "vegan" with "carnivore" and you have a virtue-signalling SJW. It's exactly the fucking same but from the other side of politics. People with no grounded accomplishments latch onto whatever they can, no matter how shallow, and anybody telling them that their "identity" is meaningless will be met with hate.If you haven't built anything you can be proud of -- be it a house, career, family, or loving circle of friends -- then you need to draw your pride from somewhere. Hate groups let you set the pride bar so low that you can swell with pride over the fact that you woke up this morning with a certain color skin and heterosexual urges, as if both were the result of diligent effort on your part. Imagine eating a delicious cheeseburger and congratulating yourself for having accomplished your noble goal of not being vegan.
I identify my opponents by them being in the group "Users with a member number starting with 1". That's OK, right?A lot of good points, but I don't think he realizes how at least one of his points cuts both ways:
Replace "heterosexual" with "homosexual" and "cheeseburger" with "veggie burger" and "vegan" with "carnivore" and you have a virtue-signalling SJW. It's exactly the fucking same but from the other side of politics. People with no grounded accomplishments latch onto whatever they can, no matter how shallow, and anybody telling them that their "identity" is meaningless will be met with hate.
Hence why Identity Politics from either side is completely stupid. Recognize and fight racism, sexism, etc, but when you define yourself or your opponent by being in an identifiable group (they're good/bad because they're white/black man/woman (flip any term either way) ), there's problems.
This is how I identify you:I identify my opponents by them being in the group "Users with a member number starting with 1". That's OK, right?
If you have to group people, identify them by what they say or do, not what they are born with.I identify my opponents by them being in the group "Users with a member number starting with 1". That's OK, right?
Damn, Bubble looks delicious.
Yeah, i mean, remember when heterosexuality was an official mental disease up until the 80s?A lot of good points, but I don't think he realizes how at least one of his points cuts both ways:
Replace "heterosexual" with "homosexual" and "cheeseburger" with "veggie burger" and "vegan" with "carnivore" and you have a virtue-signalling SJW. It's exactly the fucking same but from the other side of politics. People with no grounded accomplishments latch onto whatever they can, no matter how shallow, and anybody telling them that their "identity" is meaningless will be met with hate.
Hence why Identity Politics from either side is completely stupid. Recognize and fight racism, sexism, etc, but when you define yourself or your opponent by being in an identifiable group (they're good/bad because they're white/black man/woman (flip any term either way) ), there's problems.
I didn't say you could flip words in EVERY EXAMPLE and they are the same, I said THAT ONE.Yeah, i mean, remember when heterosexuality was an official mental disease up until the 80s?
Contexts? Who needs that? That's why White Pride and Gay Pride are just "exactly the fucking same but from the other side of politics."
You mean the one with heterosexuality?I didn't say you could flip words in EVERY EXAMPLE and they are the same, I said THAT ONE.
The thing I don't get is that the article had nothing to do with that, so why are you trying to bring it up? David Wong was talking about "Hate Groups".I didn't say you could flip words in EVERY EXAMPLE and they are the same, I said THAT ONE.
...but only one side threw nukes on civilians.Look guys, both sides in WW2 where engaging in violence...
But both sides tried, and we all know that's what's really important....but only one side threw nukes on civilians.
And now a stabbing in Germany, Wuppertal. One dead, one critical.We might need a terrorism thread.
BBC- Finland stabbings: Man shot and held after Turku attacks
Several people (number unknown, but eyewitnesses say at least 2) stabbed, none known to be dead. Suspect was shot in the leg and arrested.
This video is also jumping around twitter, claimed to be of the attacker shouting "Allah Akbar":
I wonder if maybe it won't culminate on Monday, during the eclipse, around the world. But dear God, do I hope I'm just being paranoid - it's a fairly normal state for me these days.I have a feeling we are seeing a wide terror attack this week.