Base grow plants are bugged right now and they all die.
General Empyrion Thread
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GasBandit
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Yeah. I'm pretty sure I mentioned this several times, but the current version has a bug that randomly mass-kills all the crops in a base. The Cornucopia CV is my workaround for that problem. Your CV has 15 grow plots in it, though, so that should be more than enough to keep you fed and and in plastic.
In it, I would plant:
1x Tomatoes, Durians, Pumpkins, wheat, Kavae (coffee), fiber, aloe vera
8x corn
And that will get you lots of plastic plus everything you need to make sandwiches, canned meat, and canned vegetables, which I have found to be the three most useful food items. Sandwiches restore 150 hunger, and it's around that point I start to worry about eating something. Canned meat and canned vegetables restore about 250 hunger each, which means my "low battery" insecurity starts manifesting in my food bar, but if the power goes out or you need a sack lunch on a long trip away from the fridge, they go hours and hours without spoiling.
(And the attached SV and mining HV)
GasBandit
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People in the server's discord channel are getting excited about Alpha 8, which they think (but I have been able to find no confirmation of) will be coming out in a couple weeks. As that will necessitate a complete server wipe, they're sounding like they're gonna go nuts and start having "massive space battles" since they're going to lose their ships anyway. Sooo, watch out for increasing PVP activity over the next few weeks, I guess!
GasBandit
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Dear god do you listen to a single word I say ever?!
And btw, you won't just be losing stuff on the server... Alpha 8 will invalidate all your single player saves, too. The game is changing to such a degree as to render the old files unusable.
Old blueprints should still work, though, so if you got anything you want to save, blueprint it with RightAlt-O.
Oh, he listens, but...you know how it can be with those of a certain, advanced age.Dear god do you listen to a single word I say ever?!
—Patrick
Well yeah, but it was because of wife aggro that you logged off. I'll rag on ya about that in game, but I'm not gonna shame you over it publicly. Now, if you'd said "I'm gonna catch the end of this movie/TV show/ballgame and I'll be right back," and then logged off, I'd expect it to show up here.
GasBandit
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It's also a lot easier to be forgiving of such mistakes when we're well established, have resources to spare, and are gonna lose everything in ~3-4 weeks anyway
I mean, just a few days ago, I knowingly threw away a perfectly good ship (much more expensive than the Phoenix) by taking it to fight Evasong in a battle I knew I couldn't win.
I mean, just a few days ago, I knowingly threw away a perfectly good ship (much more expensive than the Phoenix) by taking it to fight Evasong in a battle I knew I couldn't win.
Gas alluded to it, but the move from Dunara to Genesis is complete. I mean, the base on Dunara is still there, and ready for use if anyone wants a halfway setup PvE base for the next couple weeks, but the only real reason I'm stashing the Ames on Dunara is because her guns are better suited to offense than defense, she's expensive to get on and off planet fuel-wise, and she'd just be another core cluttering up the server resources and potentiating lag at our base on Genesis. I spent yesterday sinking a base into the ground. It's 200m deep and I still haven't hit bedrock. It's currently set up with limited construction capabilities, but with hangar space for two SVs the size of Ye Olde Busse or smaller (one bay currently available) for non combatant ships that you don't want to have to remake if there's a little surface action. There's also a repair bay at the bottom of the shaft, and small CV parking with a good ramp for loading HVs. As time permits, I'll expand the docking surface to allow better parking for all of our CVs and - depending on how bored I get - potentially for small, non-combatant CV parking beneath the surface.
GasBandit
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Tonight I plan to start hitting up Kiki for the resources to BP-factory build a couple base structures (probably carbon copies of the Genesis Branch/Annex). Hopefully by this weekend, that means I'll be ready to fast-deploy a base on Mars, once I pointpoint where the Pentaxid deposits are.
Since CVs aren't allowed in Mars atmo, we won't be able to airlift in more HVs, and will have to build them in situ. Of course, we could do that with blueprints, too. But at least that means we won't have to worry about any admin-built cheatsy alien ships coming around to "glass" us from on high.
Once we control a Pentaxid deposit, we'll really be able to get nuts. Though, the next step after that would probably be a Mars Orbital Branch 20-30 km from the planet, so that an SV can ferry the pentaxid up to a defensible/clandestine place where it is safe to park CVs. Might be a good idea to put a few defensive turret structures around the MOB, too.
Since CVs aren't allowed in Mars atmo, we won't be able to airlift in more HVs, and will have to build them in situ. Of course, we could do that with blueprints, too. But at least that means we won't have to worry about any admin-built cheatsy alien ships coming around to "glass" us from on high.
Once we control a Pentaxid deposit, we'll really be able to get nuts. Though, the next step after that would probably be a Mars Orbital Branch 20-30 km from the planet, so that an SV can ferry the pentaxid up to a defensible/clandestine place where it is safe to park CVs. Might be a good idea to put a few defensive turret structures around the MOB, too.
GasBandit
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Ah, good idea. Previously, I'd just been setting every friday aside to visit every branch and refuel/interact with every base structure and ship, just to keep them refreshed so they don't vanish. But the Genesis Branch, and its attending defense tanks, will probably need at least daily attention.
GasBandit
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Alright, I've got blueprints ready for a new heavily armed planetary Branch, a defensive annex, and for a new Orbital Branch. Gared's churning out ammo for them. We might be able to invade Mars as soon as tomorrow, but I'd like to first go check and make sure that Evasong was right about there being Pentaxid deposits there. If not, I've got another possible line on some, though it's farther out than I have explored yet.
GasBandit
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Yeah, unfortunately I think a lot of people have decided to take a break or switch to single player until Alpha 8 hits.
And from what I'm reading, even after alpha 8 goes to stable branch, it's gonna take the Renntech Admins a few days to get their ducks in a row on customizing the map and whatnot. Of course Evasong and Noodle2k1 are still saying dumb stuff like "let's only put Erestrium and Zascosium in PvP territory so carebears can't have nice stuff if they don't wanna fight." I had to remind them that CV cockpit blocks now require E&Z, it's not just for high grade weapons anymore.
Also, it sounds like they're going to abandon the "players can join the aliens as a faction" concept because it's too much micromanagement for them. But Evasong still intends to RP an alien in a ship that doesn't conform to the rules, of course.
If he does, the ships will all leave.Next thing you know @bhamv3 will be playing this game
—Patrick
Dave
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Playing today and the server admins sent out a message that they were going to restart so please log off. That's cool and all, but unfortunately it ejected me from my ship for some reason. I broke my leg and couldn't get back to the ship. It'll be interesting to see where it is when I log back in. I guess I can wait for it to run out of power and fall to the ground, but I like loading an overabundance of power into my stuff so it's going to be there a long, long time.
GasBandit
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You can access your ship's control panel from the registry tab (as long as you're in the same playfield) and turn off its thrusters.
only the pretty ones
It should be fine. There's not really any collision damage in the game. I'm so lazy, I often just shut off my thrusters and let my ship fall and settle planetside.
GasBandit
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Don't worry, even falling, CVs can't exceed 32m/s in velocity (in atmo). So the damage will be little more than dents, most likely.
Also be careful about buying refined pentaxid... it's deceptively expensive. I went from 150k in the bank to broke in a couple days because I got in the habit of buying it.
I didn't consider that Dave might be on a PVP planet..if so, there's a little collision damage
I popped over into creative today and designed a new CV - the Space Mine. It's essentially a big fuel tank jacketed in combat steel and covered in turrets. Depending upon server load, you can use them to essentially mine the approach routes to bases. They don't fly fast (there are two directions where they max out at 1.3 m/s), they can't jump between systems, and they don't have gravity generators - but they've got around 35,000 fuel capacity and four or five large ammo boxes, so as long as you don't forget to check in on them from time to time, they should last weeks in space on their own. Alternatively, if there's a faction you don't like, you can mine the space between one of their Orbitals and a resource planet in PvP territory and catch them coming and going.
GasBandit
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I like the sound of those, for defending our orbital bases, but be careful about mining warp-in points - there's a section in the server rules on the discord specifically forbidding mining the area around warp-in points.
Oh yeah, actual jump in points is just mean - I'd put them at least visual rendering distance away from any established non-GBI space location and 10k from the planet. Do you remember the server's discord address, by any chance? I've been online for a while now and the cb isn't spitting out its normal banter.