*sighs, turns over "DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING IN AMERICA" sign to 0*

I still want to know the reason.
I mean, I know the reason was most likely, “I just got the idea into my head how thrilling it would be to murder a bunch of kids,” but there’s also that “I was mad about failing english classes” or “The lunch lady always looked at me all mean” or “I don’t want to go on living and I shouldn’t have to go out alone.”

—Patrick
Is "I don't like mondays" an option?

But seriously, there is never a good reason for something like that.
 
In the newest edition of "what can we blame that isn't guns?" it turns out the problem is that schools have too many entrances and exits.

Because you know...I'm sure someone with a gun couldn't find a way to take advantage of all people being forced to funnel out of one or two locations (not to mention the firefighter reasons blah blah blah). God damn though we have a nice well-regulated militia.
 

Dave

Staff member
So did you hear about the open carry guy that showed up at the school carrying a flag and wearing a MAGA hat?
 

GasBandit

Staff member
And Cody from AHH hits it directly on the head.
Perhaps a good first step would be prohibiting airing any advertisement within 30 minutes of coverage of a mass shooting. So they could still cover it for journalism's sake, but throw in a $10,000,000 fine any time an ad airs within 30 minutes of any content talking about any aspect of a mass shooting incident. Sour the milk, and watch the sensationalism that is fueling and inspiring future shooters just dry up.
 
Perhaps a good first step would be prohibiting airing any advertisement within 30 minutes of coverage of a mass shooting. So they could still cover it for journalism's sake, but throw in a $10,000,000 fine any time an ad airs within 30 minutes of any content talking about any aspect of a mass shooting incident. Sour the milk, and watch the sensationalism that is fueling and inspiring future shooters just dry up.
The First Amendment concerns are a given. Then the fun of defining the term "mass shooting." We're still arguing that in here. Where does the clock start? What counts as an "ad"? Why not just raise prices and dare whomever is responsible for enforcement (FCC? FTC? there's another years of debate) to fine them.

And don't get me started on how a company's pet Congressperson will finagle all sorts of exemptions.
 
What counts as an "ad"? Why not just raise prices and dare whomever is responsible for enforcement (FCC? FTC? there's another years of debate) to fine them..
I think raising prices would send the opposite message. It would acknowledge that airtime as being more valuable to advertisers.

—Patrick
 
I think raising prices would send the opposite message. It would acknowledge that airtime as being more valuable to advertisers.

—Patrick
Was trying to invoke the Pinto memo or the Blankenship method here. More cost effective to pay the fine than to abide by the rule and all that. Was also assuming the advertiser was the one fined, not the broadcaster.
 
I wish I had that album. I only have "Meltdown (at Madame Tussaud's)". He was way ahead of his time.
I own it ... on cassette.

I know he lost a lot of his original fans when they felt he started devoting more of his time to talking about politics when he should’ve been talking about Jesus, but...we’ll, he’s not wrong, y’know?
Was trying to invoke the Pinto memo or the Blankenship method here. More cost effective to pay the fine than to abide by the rule and all that. Was also assuming the advertiser was the one fined, not the broadcaster.
My wife is fond of talking about when she was a kid, and how her parents would punish her when she did something wrong, but rather than the threat of punishment preventing her from doing something bad, all it really did was teach her to stop and consider whether or not she wanted the bad thing badly enough that the punishment would be worth it.

—Patrick
 
My wife is fond of talking about when she was a kid, and how her parents would punish her when she did something wrong, but rather than the threat of punishment preventing her from doing something bad, all it really did was teach her to stop and consider whether or not she wanted the bad thing badly enough that the punishment would be worth it.

—Patrick
Newb... you're supposed to learn how to do it without them finding out...
 
My mom said that she and her siblings would all get spankings whether they did anything or not, so they might as well do something.
I'm shocked I was such a well-behaved kid, or maybe just too dumb to realize this at the time. When my sister did something wrong, the punishment washed onto me. Should've earned at. "You wanna yell at me? I'll give you something to yell about!"
 

GasBandit

Staff member
The Santa Fe, TX shooter used a shotgun and a .38 revolver that his father legally owned. There is no proposed gun control legislation (other than a complete ban on private firearm ownership via repeal of the 2nd Amendment, naturally) that would have prevented the attack. He had no prior criminal record, or indeed, no prior confrontations of any sort with law enforcement.

However, once again, interviewing other students has turned up early warning signs. One of his classmates reported that she was not surprised to learn who the shooter was, that he was always wearing a trenchcoat and "looking like a psychopath," and that she thinks he had been bullied for "being different." One of the parents of a victim told the press that her daughter had rejected the shooter after four months of "constant, aggressive advances."
 
And this is why I think the solution to school shootings is better funding for schools. Not to buy metal detectors, or employ more armed guards, but to pay more teachers, pay them better, buy them more supplies, etc.
...and more funding for school counselors, mental health support, anti-bullying measures, and...
 

figmentPez

Staff member
Also, more effort in teaching boys that no means no, and no woman owes them her attention. :p
Consent is such a poorly taught concept in general. We definitely need to be teaching it. Sexual consent is where the most egregious offenses happen, but I think a broader understanding of consent in all areas may be necessary in order to effect change in thinking and behavior about sexual consent.
 
The Santa Fe, TX shooter used a shotgun and a .38 revolver that his father legally owned. There is no proposed gun control legislation (other than a complete ban on private firearm ownership via repeal of the 2nd Amendment, naturally) that would have prevented the attack.
Yes, as we all know, there's nothing parents can do to stop their kids from doing whatever they want... unless we're talking about sex, then abstinence only education just works.

Also, as i pointed out in my last post, it's not like they're even attempting to actually fund the things they say are the actual problem.

And that's not even getting into the fact that a law not stopping every crime isn't an argument against said law.
 
So now we know "guns aren't the reason the US has so many more shootings than every other westernized country" is higher than "rape culture isn't real" in the gasbandit pyramid of delusion.
 
So now we know "guns aren't the reason the US has so many more shootings than every other westernized country" is higher than "rape culture isn't real" in the gasbandit pyramid of delusion.
What do you want? Do you want all guns banned? Do you want the police and the military to go house to house, confiscating every gun they find? Does that sound like the solution to you?

Because the point we’re making here is that the guns used in this shooting were legally owned, by a person who did not have a criminal history, and would not qualify in any “assault weapons” ban that has ever been suggested.

So do you want all guns seized or not?
 
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