General Empyrion Thread

Trying out my death cube on an alien POI. 5-ish minute video Sorry there's no sound. I forgot to enable it in OBS.



Lessons learned:

  • Spread out weapons to avoid losing a bunch at once due to splash damage.
  • Add better side thrusters.
  • Reduce internal block count to reduce weight. I lost no outer armor blocks, so I can remove a bit of internal armor (all those holes in the front at the end of the vid are where weapons once sat).
  • I'm a decent shot on stationary targets. I don't have homing rockets on this thing, but I was still pretty effective.
  • If you have the luxury of sitting still, gatling guns are pretty effective.
 
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I was in the green circled red panetary system. Sadly, I had a power outage (someone hit a pole, or something, hope they're OK), and lost all the notes I took about all of the planets out there.
 

GasBandit

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Man, I said it before when I got the Tantive IV, and I'll say it again... One universe's battleship/dreadnaught is another universe's light destroyer.



The reliant is every bit as big as the Legion, which seemed friggin huge when I first got it.
 
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GasBandit

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Planet Elites... or rather, the moon called Elites, that orbits a particularly nasty lava planet whose name escapes me. But it sure leaves an impression.



What the hell are we doing here again? Fighting aliens and claiming pentaxid nodes? Is it really worth dying for?
 
I like to think of what we're doing here as practice for future conquests. We already know that the fast attack tanks will work well against low level PoIs, or higher level ones on starter planets, I suppose, but that we're going to need main battle tanks to really storm strong opponents. I'll work on one of those tomorrow.
 

GasBandit

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In which Gared, Aislynn and I cooperatively storm an alien (npc) stronghold. Our first time working together! There was some friendly fire -_-

 
That was a lot of fun. Also, you're not the only person to have shot Aislynn in the back of the head tonight in a friendly fire incident.
 
That's what I get for playing Torchlight II last night. I missed all the fun stuff.
Don't worry, I'm sure there will be plenty more. Gas commissioned a new tank and now we need to go test the first run. We seem to've gone into the planetary raiding business.
 

GasBandit

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There are LOTS more POIs to raid. We didn't even break this one down for parts, so it's probably already back again, complete with the 20-odd turrets we had to destroy.

Edit: Also, I need to design a new fighter that doesn't have the cockpit up front. Hrmmm... I got an idea. It'll probably end up looking like a Gee Bee, but that's also appropriate, considering MY initials :p

 
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GasBandit

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One thing I think some people don't understand about bases and POIs is it is actually a lot of work to just "pound them flat" with weapons, even CV turrets (most of the big boomers don't work planetside), or HV artillery (really slow firing). Most POI structures have multiple subterranean floors, and chewing through that much combat steel armor (or Alien Armor blocks, which is roughly equivalent) is a slow and expensive process. Note that even Evasong's super-cheaty basekiller didn't completely level the Titan Branch, and even left some devices intact (of course, when Shadow then went inside the broken-open base, he then proceeded to crack open containers and devices with small arms).

This is because armor blocks have an undocumented "damage negation" feature, where each individual attack against them is reduced by a given number, and that number is never really published. So, you can empty magazine after magazine of rounds from your enhanced pulse rifle into a combat armor block and never have it even take a single point of damage. A plasma cannon or rocket launcher might dent it, but it's gonna take hundreds of shots to destroy. This also works against high DPS/low burst weapons like gatling guns, minigun turrets, and pulse laser turrets.

Once again, your best bet seems to be missiles, or if you're on foot, satchel charges or a shoulder mounted RPG. But that gets expensive in a hurry.
 
Is that durability a server-specific setting? Or is it universal across all game installs?
Also, would it be worthwhile to just build a “drill tank” if the blocks are more susceptible to disassembly (once the defenses are neutralized, of course) than damage?

—Patrick
 
There are LOTS more POIs to raid. We didn't even break this one down for parts, so it's probably already back again, complete with the 20-odd turrets we had to destroy.

Edit: Also, I need to design a new fighter that doesn't have the cockpit up front. Hrmmm... I got an idea. It'll probably end up looking like a Gee Bee, but that's also appropriate, considering MY initials :p

Will it wind up as much of a death trap as the real thing? Stay tuned, folks! :p
 

GasBandit

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Is that durability a server-specific setting? Or is it universal across all game installs?
Also, would it be worthwhile to just build a “drill tank” if the blocks are more susceptible to disassembly (once the defenses are neutralized, of course) than damage?

—Patrick
It's standard, but can be customized, though the methodology and exact formula are opaque and confusing.

Also, you can't deconstruct an enemy structure/ship until the enemy core is removed.
 
Fresh off the success of the Bad Pennies, I set out to design a light attack/recon tank for planetary exploration and/or predator hunting. It won't stand up to the pounding that the Douglas Mk IV or the Bad Penny will take, but it should get you the hell out of Dodge in one big hurry. This one even has some styling work on it. The prototype is parked on Elites and the blueprint is set to Friends on Steam.
 

GasBandit

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The temptation finally overcame me today. I bought a refurbished server on ebay. Should get here middle of next week. Processor's not the strongest ever (It's got two Xeon E5530s, which are each quad core but about equivalent to a low grade intel i5), but it also has 64 gigs of ram and windows server 2016 preinstalled. Not a bad pull for $375.
 

GasBandit

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You want us to Patreon you or something?
No, this is my toy :p

Edit: and in all seriousness, I don't know how this will work out. I'm a little worried the CPUs are too weak. We'll just have to see. If that turns out to be the case, I kinda plan to use it for something else.
 
The temptation finally overcame me today. I bought a refurbished server on ebay. Should get here middle of next week. Processor's not the strongest ever (It's got two Xeon E5530s, which are each quad core but about equivalent to a low grade intel i5), but it also has 64 gigs of ram and windows server 2016 preinstalled. Not a bad pull for $375.
Should've talked to me. I know someone who has a Proliant they're going to be unloading in the next month or two. No OS, though, just a COA.

FYI for anyone else out there getting ideas, X58-based servers (well really, the 5500/5520-based "Tylersburg" server equivalent) are all plummeting in price right now, and no matter what they come with, it's not really that expensive to replace whatever processors you buy in it with something like a pair of 6-core Xeon X5675's. They may have been $1500 when they were new, but I've seen 'em on sale for as little as $80ea. Memory will set you back, though. A single 16GB registered ECC DIMM will set you back anywhere from $80-$120, and some dual-processor boards can hold up to 18 of 'em.

FWIW I still have a 6-core 3GHz Xeon system with 24GB RAM just sitting here doing nothing. I still haven't even started the OEM Win7 setup yet.

--Patrick
 

GasBandit

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Should've talked to me. I know someone who has a Proliant they're going to be unloading in the next month or two. No OS, though, just a COA.

FYI for anyone else out there getting ideas, X58-based servers (well really, the 5500/5520-based "Tylersburg" server equivalent) are all plummeting in price right now, and no matter what they come with, it's not really that expensive to replace whatever processors you buy in it with something like a pair of Xeon X5675's. They may have been $1500 when they were new, but I've seen 'em on sale for as little as $80ea. Memory will set you back, though. A single 16GB registered DIMM will set you back anywhere from $80-$120, and some dual-processor boards can hold up to 18 of 'em.

--Patrick
Well, I think I got memory covered, 64gb should be plenty. If performance isn't good enough, I may start watching sales for a couple X5675s.

It also came with 3 300gb drives... I'm thinking of doing a Raid 1+0.
 

GasBandit

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The kicker that really got me to get this is that it already has win server 2016 already installed. That's a huge time and money saver.
 
If you don't mind playing Refurb Roulette, newegg has them for $100 a pop right now.
I got mine off eBay from a seller with a nice high reputation.
Also I still have that 12-core 2010 Mac Pro sitting here doing nothing, but I don't have a copy of Windows for that (Yet! A copy of 8.1 retail is supposed to arrive by next Tue) AND I still only have 8GB RAM in it (see my comments about memory pricing, above), so that's why I was offering up the 6-core.
Heck, Ebay has refurbs of them going for $80 a pair.
How the mighty have fallen. Also that generation of server is coming off its long-term lease EVERYWHERE, so the market is getting inundated with them right now. Also that motherboard silicon apparently does NOT support booting from NVMe-based SSDs, I think?...which is probably pushing people to finally decide to trade 'em in. Plus they only support PCIe v2.0.

--Patrick
 
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GAH I'm turning into Dave, and have no spending impulse control! I bought the X5675s.
The X5690 is faster (I mean yeah, but only up to a whopping 10% faster), but it is a 130W chip, while the X5675 is only a 95W chip. Also, many of the people selling the -90 appear to want an unreasonable premium for them, probably because they they know it is the top end model.

Personally I’m perfectly happy with 90% the max possible speed but at < 75% the power budget, especially when there’s 2 of ‘em.

—Patrick
 
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GasBandit

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Oh excruciating horrors... the server is supposed to get here wednesday, but the X5675s won't get here until SATURDAY, which means they won't actually arrive in the office until a week from monday. NNNNGHHH
 
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